Are there any videos proving that pic-related solutions are useful on the battlefield?

Are there any videos proving that pic-related solutions are useful on the battlefield?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you get lucky the cope cage can make the incoming ATGM detonate early which means it will not get through the armor. Not sure how likely this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Sage

      You fucking nagger don't even know what a atmg is
      It's specifically against javelin like rockets that attack top down
      Atmg Flys straight towards the tank and explodes a meter over it and blasts a hole into the hull with its charge

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most ATGMs are unable to do top attacks. Pathetic fool

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Most ATGMs are unable to do top attacks. Pathetic fool

          All modern ATGMs can do this. It is a standard function now, tbh.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            99% of all footage from Ukraine shows no top attack but a conventional attack

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            half the combat footage ive seen are shitty soviet era rpgs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's meant for shaped charges

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the worst outcome. Statistical armor works by damaging the projectile from the sides and to create an angle to Heat charges.
      Believe it or not but air does not have a good armor value
      This /k/ope cage meme was created by retarded /k/ users with no understanding of physics

      Slat armor does work against old RPG grenades. Top cover works against suicide drones and random quadcopter dropping nade in open hatch. Not sure about the ass candle, but it looks more like a joke

      The question is not how much is being sacrificed by puttin on all that nonsense.

      It works against Heat in general, the distancees of the beams and their angle needs to be changed based on the diameter of the projectile to prevent the detonation on the statistical armor wich would render it useless

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good to know Sir but how can the armor hit the incoming ATGM from the side? Don't get it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It gets between the beams without detonation and gets 'grinded' from the sides and pushes off the 90° angle by the angle of the beams
          If the detonator hits the bar it becomes useless

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes Sir got it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cope cage
      ywnbaw, go back to plebbit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        homosexual

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Early detonation is a misnomer. The cage effectively catches the rocket and crushes the fuse resulting in no detonation at all.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >effectively catches the rocket
        this solution could catch cone shaped granite(like rpg) if ribs are spaced in correct distance, but ain't do shiet against israeliteelin with spherical nose and more advanced fuse then rpg.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >cone shaped granite
          >spherical nose
          the nose knows

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      weren't they doing cope cages back in 1980s in Afghanistan war?
      pretty sure the technology advanced since then

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    paint it red for more speed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      paint it blue for good luck

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        GREEN IS DA BEST COLOR

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      should paint it with the tranny flag since that is basically the flag of Poland now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why so salty germ?
        last time when i checked its your cuntry was pushing for fags trannies and shitskins in EU

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Needs a bomb ass spoiler too for aerodynamics

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah needs speed holes for aerodynamics.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Slat armor does work against old RPG grenades. Top cover works against suicide drones and random quadcopter dropping nade in open hatch. Not sure about the ass candle, but it looks more like a joke

    The question is not how much is being sacrificed by puttin on all that nonsense.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The question is not how much is being sacrificed by puttin on all that nonsense.

      Pic-related solutions were created by Belarusian arms industry, actually. But who cares, Russia and Belarus are pretty much one country nowadays.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia and Belarus are pretty much one country nowadays.
        its not
        Luke >>>

        [...]

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        like Poland and Ukraine?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. But given the tens of thousands of anti tank missiles used in this war we have fewer strike videos than a single year of the Syrian civil war, and the ones we do have are significantly lower quality:
    >show launch
    >don’t show impact
    >if is impact shown have it be unZoomed and completely indistinguishable
    >cut the video to hell so launch and impact cannot even be verified as from the same month much less the same shot.
    >less than one percent actually show a good launch good impact.
    What does it say about white men when sand nuggets produced MUCH higher quality war footage?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What does it say about white men
      stfu

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there was that one vid where the tank takes 7 missiles before the turret comes off... that one was pretty weird.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      solid point, shit like this is why i'm skeptical that this 'war' is even happening.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh it's definitely happening, just not the way you were told

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no such tank with that configuration was ever destroyed by ATGM or Javelin or whatever.
    so pretty successfull I'd say.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no such tank with that configuration was ever destroyed by ATGM or Javelin or whatever.

      The question is how many of them around there. This one on the pic looks like a prototype.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        almost no russian tank in the SMO has this configuration, they dont even bother with the roofs anymore because all the western anti tank weapons turned out to be a blunder.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they dont even bother with the roofs anymore because all the western anti tank weapons turned out to be a blunder.
          Is it that or because cope cages don't work

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the western anti tank weapons dont work, thats why you never hear anything about javelins or NLAWs anymore. nobody is scared of them cuz they are useless.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They stopped bothering with all that stuff.
              Turns out the missiles are shit.

              Depends on the source, i guess.

              That's a tweet about an Ukrainian Javelin operator destroying five tanks:

              https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1630514396157075456?s=20

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about:
                >launch is clear but no target is in view
                >video then cuts to scorched up target (hit multiple times??)
                >immediate impact so we don’t even know if the target was operational
                >jump cut to another target
                >jump cut to another
                >all impacts could easily be tank fire, or other direct fire systems
                >many targets are obscured and identification of friend or foe is impossible in the choppy video
                >further most of the impacts occur at the front of the vehicle were a copper penetrator won’t actually destroy the vehicle.
                If these are javelins (and that is a BIG if) then javelin targeting algorithm sucks because it keeps striking way to far forward to destroy the tank or kill any crew.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How about the tweets saying that a Ukrainian grandma knocked a drone down with a jar of pickles?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              than why hasnt russia taken more of ukraine then?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                According to pro-Russian sources, no single Russian tank was destroyed, because they are super-tech and Russians are very smart engineeers. According to anti-Russian sources, all Russian tanks were destroyed after one hit.

                I think that the truth might be somewhere in the middle.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Brian Belretic said the hit rate is 19% for a trained crew in training conditions. The kill rate is even lower. Ex US army.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Pure russian insanity rofl 😀 straight up denying all those blown up tanks which are photographed and geolocated.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >germ flag
                >russian insanity
                there's vids with BMPs surviving 3 hits
                depends on a bunch of factors
                >well documented
                by Oryx? lmao, 60% twitter sauce that can't be verified and a lot of 2015/16 Ukro vehiceles from their failed operations
                >with geo location
                I'd like to see those

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >by Oryx? lmao, 60% twitter sauce that can't be verified and a lot of 2015/16 Ukro vehiceles from their failed operations
                Show me one example.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't catalog everything
                just lurk

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I can't
                Yeah you fucking naggers always lie, worse than israelite.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They do, but not with this distance and narrow beams

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can someone post a javelin actually doing something?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I saw a vid where a javelin hit a BMP
              it survived

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's more probable a BMP would survive, the objective of the Javelin is to hit the ammunition inside a tank with the shaped charge to cause the cook-off that destroys the tank. A BMP won't cook-off like that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it hit the exhaust pipe outlet on the side, hottest part of the vehicle, but not a critical location in any way
                >the objective of the Javelin is to hit the ammunition inside a tank
                the vehicle had ammunition and was firing it's main gun at the time, the javelin simply did not hit it squarely

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The ammunition in a BMP is just small caliber baby rounds compared to a tank. You've probably seen some of the footage of tank turrets getting blown off sky high by now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They´re using a lot of BMP3´s which have a carousel full of 100mm HE, worse than a tank because the hull is thin and made of aluminium and instead of the hull containing the blast the whole thing explodes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It seems javelins always target the hottest part. We have numerous videos of “javelin” strike all either hitting the engine or the exhaust. Yes this will mobility kill the tank, but a simple drag and basic mechanics tools and it can be back in the fight. And it won’t even kill anyone either.

                Seems like the javelins algorithm needs work (use outer shape to target specific portions of vehicle , such as center mass).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Survivability depend where plasma jet will hit, and despite survival of vehicle it self, you don't want to be inside steel box while molten copper particles flying at 10km/s inside.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the vehicle drove away from the scene
                everyone survived

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Turns out after reading on the subject that it isn't plasma or molten copper which I also thought it was. The jet is actually a solid at around 500C that "flows" due to the forces on it being far above the ultimate strength of the material, it's essentially an extrusion of wire at an extreme velocity. Almost like for instance if you put soft sodium metal into a hydraulic press and pushed it through a small hole, it's still solid but is forced to "flow" out of the hole and will exit as a wire shape.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Survivability is MUCH higher then you’d think. Even in T-series tanks in Chechnya each penetration yield fewer than one casualty on average. In Iraq we have a huge number of servicemen “wounded” from EFPs, that didn’t even penetrate their uniform

                Most videos of "javellings blowing up tanks" were actually directed artillery fire.
                A tank can't survive that probably even with reactive protection.

                This is quite possible and explains why all the strike videos are full of jump cuts.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Most videos of "javellings blowing up tanks" were actually directed artillery fire.
              A tank can't survive that probably even with reactive protection.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It’s quite strange really. No clear javelin hits of any Russian armored vehicles, BUT we have that video of the Russians using 3! On a fireteam trying to medivac a wounded member. Of the javelin hits on vehicles we have all of them hit either much to forward or much to the rear (still messes it up, but by no means kills the crew).classic ATGM have had more videotaped success. Shoulder fired systems have no performed well it seems, but given we have video evidence of caps left on and other boneheaded moves, perhaps it’s not too surprising.

          >What does it say about white men
          stfu

          Syrian sand naggers still reign supreme when it comes to high quality war footage. Nothing else comes close and that really says something. Further ISIS inventiveness in makeshift weapons likewise reigns supreme.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It’s quite strange really.
            whats strange about it? all western weapons that got delivered to ukraine suck, so not surprising at all that javelins failed.

            [...]

            Depends on the source, i guess.

            That's a tweet about an Ukrainian Javelin operator destroying five tanks:

            https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1630514396157075456?s=20

            against static and abandoned vehicles they are ok, but overall useless.

            I have always wanted a technical with water cooled maxims.

            kinda useless in the muddy fields tho

            than why hasnt russia taken more of ukraine then?

            Because its easier to lure anti russian Ukrainians into open fields and killzones where they can be easily culled.
            Russia doesnt want to run a 20 year long policing mission in ukraine, its easier to just murder everyone whos against them in a year or two and then take what they want. nigga you must be stupid that you still havent figured that out.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >against static and abandoned vehicles they are ok, but overall useless.

              So maybe Russian armoured vehicles should drive in circles 24 hours a day for maximum safety? Your opinion?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                basically this

                This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about:
                >launch is clear but no target is in view
                >video then cuts to scorched up target (hit multiple times??)
                >immediate impact so we don’t even know if the target was operational
                >jump cut to another target
                >jump cut to another
                >all impacts could easily be tank fire, or other direct fire systems
                >many targets are obscured and identification of friend or foe is impossible in the choppy video
                >further most of the impacts occur at the front of the vehicle were a copper penetrator won’t actually destroy the vehicle.
                If these are javelins (and that is a BIG if) then javelin targeting algorithm sucks because it keeps striking way to far forward to destroy the tank or kill any crew.

                >nigga you must be stupid that you still havent figured that out.

                lol, you sure don't talk like a german, where are you from?

                >you sure don't talk like a german
                I thought you are black so I thought I should talk to you like to a dumb low IQ nagger.
                like I have to point out the obvious things for you that you would never notice yourself because black people like you arent very smart.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you so upset?
                Oh all the earthquakes in your homeland of Turkey?
                I understand.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                because its annoying explaining the obvious to low IQ people like you.
                you couldnt even figure out why Russia isnt moving the frontline so you have to be retarded.
                are you vaccinated? how many boosters?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you couldnt even figure out why Russia isnt moving the frontline
                because you are getting you shit pushed in as it is orc

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no retard its because they need to cull a shitload of Ukrainians, if they dont kill them now on the battlefield then they will make problems later on.
                so Russians pretend to be stuck so ukrainians walk into the meatgrinder and die.
                it works. one of the rules of war:
                >"Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak."

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>"Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak."

                Shoygu-tsu ancient wisdom tactics.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >we arent losing its just 4d chess to kill more ukies... who are literally the same genetics as russians, cause they will cause problems later on
                >also im totally german and not russian
                >anyone who disagrees with me is a "retard"

                lol, lmao even
                youre larping way too hard my vatnik friend

                don't worry, [email protected], we're not going to steal your copyrighted dumb pic of orcish war chariots

                >"There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent."
                another reason why Ukraine is losing

                Don't care, I'm not Russian or Ukrainian, not my problem

                >not my problem
                your taxes go to the ukraine meatgrinder.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                dude we have all read the art of war, it takes less than an hour, you arent wise.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >we have all read
                clearly you didnt.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >another reason why Ukraine is losing
                Is that why Russia is completely stagnated on the Eastern front and has yet to take the small city of Bahkmut yet despites months upon months of tossing men at it? Wheres the sign Ukraine is open to a peace treaty? You do realize holding onto land means nothing if you cant establish an end to the war right?
                Germany still had the entirety of Belgium with chunks of French border land under its control by the time WW1 ended and still lost because it was the offender thus had more to prove

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >stagnated
                like I said its not stagnation, its a Killbox and they killed off many Ukrainians there while taking minimal casualties, also bleeding the entire west dry. worked flawless so far.
                >you cant establish an end to the war
                nobody will be left to protest. all ukrainians will be culled in the meatgrinders and Zelensky will send EVERYONE.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no cauldrons in this war

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Mariupol already long forgotten
                kek

                >miminal casualties
                Militaries on the offensive who suffer minimal casualities are usually followed by massive land gains, something that hasnt happened. Can you guess why? Because Russia suffered massive causalities and is relying on private military contracters utilizing convicts as their actual military is rejuvenating from losses that occurred in 2022.

                >Can you guess why?
                I already explained 3 times brainlet, they NEED to KILL all the Ukrainians first so when they eventually take the land they dont have to play too many policing missions.
                this is why Mutts failed in Iraq and Afghanistan, they didnt set up meatgrinders for the Republican Guard or the Taliban.
                maybe low IQ mutts just cant figure it out.
                >and is relying on private military contracters utilizing convicts as their actual military
                extremely based and very effective.
                Ukraine lost Bakhmut to a PMC despite all the western support.
                entire west and NATO is LOSING to a PMC.
                KEK

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                already long forgotten

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So liberated.
                Americans are sick of the israeli lies and foreign israeli wars man.
                israelites run everything. They need to all be deported to Israel.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Should have stop fighting back and surrender to NATO and support them in their deterrorization efforts, then nothing like that would happened.

                Do Libyans don't care about their own people? it was obvious that NOTO is stronger and all
                resistance will end badly for Libya.
                Libyan rulers and countries supporting Libya have Libyan blood on their hands, If they just allow NATO to take over their land and allow of peaceful deterrorization everyone would fine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t. nato bootlicker

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >miminal casualties
                Militaries on the offensive who suffer minimal casualities are usually followed by massive land gains, something that hasnt happened. Can you guess why? Because Russia suffered massive causalities and is relying on private military contracters utilizing convicts as their actual military is rejuvenating from losses that occurred in 2022.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Doubtful. They really went in with less than 1/4 what USA did to Iraq.for a country that is 40% larger. Crazy really. Roughly 5.5 or 6 times larger should have been their initial force before ever invading. (Which is still about double their detachment AND mobilized troops currently)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol how is it doubtful? For the last year I have watched thousands of videos of russians being blown the fuck up in every conceivable way. They've easily lost at least 100k KIA.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Utterly impossible. They went IN with 120k. 100k dead and many more injured is ludicrous on the face of it. Even the BBC now says 16k dead Russians total.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well yeah they did BUT after UrSala's Gaff in December, the Goyim need reassurance. So two mnths Later =
                > 120K DEAD
                > 160 DEAD
                > SEE GOYIM, we are winning !!!!
                > Send them more Billions!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Kremlin spin is 16k dead. That means it's way way more than 16k.
                That's preposterous. Realistically we're at 100k - 150k Russians disabled. Includes missing, captured, injured and dead.

                Yes it's looking dire

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Prisoners don't count as Active, imho. They are just Slaughter Meat & if WW2 was anything to-go by, 100k is Peanuts to the Russ.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                100k might not be a lot but they used their best troops in the initial push for Kiev. Paratroopers and such. 90% of them are dead.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For sure, was a cluster fuck

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >90% of them are dead.
                Source: Trust Me Bro

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Disprove it

                > You can't

                You just don't have access to good Intel. Sad

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Realistically we're at 100k - 150k Russians disabled.
                Source: Trust Me Bro

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >For the last year I have watched thousands of videos of russians being blown the fuck up in every conceivable way.
                you were watching Ukraine propaganda
                according to them they have killed 6 million russians

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Kremlin spin is 16k dead. That means it's way way more than 16k.
                That's preposterous. Realistically we're at 100k - 150k Russians disabled. Includes missing, captured, injured and dead.

                Yes it's looking dire

                Impossible. Going in with 120k troops and taking 100k dead (which was your statement, not all casualties), would mean the entire front had fewer than 20k troops, which with rotation and shifts means fewer than 5k troops at any time holding back 1 million mechanized Ukrainian soldiers. Either the Russians are super men and Sabaton is going to write a song about the ubermensch outnumbered 200:1 who kept advancing and taking ground against 1 million enemies, or that never fucking happened.

                Well yeah they did BUT after UrSala's Gaff in December, the Goyim need reassurance. So two mnths Later =
                > 120K DEAD
                > 160 DEAD
                > SEE GOYIM, we are winning !!!!
                > Send them more Billions!

                The problem with hyperbole is that it forces you to go to ludicrous extents where no one will believe the numbers, or completely halt the numbers making you army seem completely ineffective for many months until enemy loses catch up to your claims, or you do a delta reversion down, and shock anyone paying attention with how FEW Russians have died.

                No good options! Which is why such bald faced lies should never be told and instead other facts such as ground control can be argued.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wtf bros, i'm vegan now

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                200k dead ukies later…”are ya winning son?”

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                200k suppoesedly Russia still can't land a decisive victory

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >tossing men at it?
                tossing shells is not tossing men, anon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't care, I'm not Russian or Ukrainian, not my problem

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >we arent losing its just 4d chess to kill more ukies... who are literally the same genetics as russians, cause they will cause problems later on
                >also im totally german and not russian
                >anyone who disagrees with me is a "retard"

                lol, lmao even
                youre larping way too hard my vatnik friend

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you know whats crazy? I couldn't really see what was going on in the thumbnail but I could tell, just from the colours, that it was a 40k picture

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >nigga you must be stupid that you still havent figured that out.

              lol, you sure don't talk like a german, where are you from?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Javelins worked fine when targeting soldiers, so why do they fail targeting armored vehicles??? Really odd.

              Plus the most annoying part of this war is every damn anti tank system is present in ukraine to some extent and we don’t have ANY tracking of results and pros And cons of the various option. I really wanted to know the relative effectiveness of the panzerfaust, the Carl Gustav, the nlaw and the rpg 29.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >we don’t have ANY tracking of results and pros And cons of the various option. I really wanted to know the relative effectiveness of the panzerfaust, the Carl Gustav, the nlaw and the rpg 29.
                I guess they all suck massive balls, thats why you dont see Zelensky begging for Javelins, NLAWs or Panzerfausts these days.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                he was, and we told him we already sent him everything, or did you miss the part where
                >it will take several years to rebuild our stock of javelins

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They only ever sent first generation Javelins to avoid having the newest models reverse engineered. They were essentially obsolete garbage and the claims of needing urgent restock is a lie by the MIC to get more taxpayer money.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >leaf flag
                opinion discarded

                posting about "muh military industrial complex" in 2023, when naggers are the real problem, lol
                okay israelite

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bunch of random schizopol ideas
                Okay, lol.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >look its a photoshopped tweet! Its real because someone on /misc/ uploaded it! And no i won't prove its validity. You just gotta believe!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They killed a bunch of T-90 with Panzerfausts in an ambush a while ago.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post vid please. Only recent one was even choppier than the javelin vid you posted to the point it could have been Russian artillery striking Ukrainian hardware and we’d never know. Is a long cut strike video really to much to ask for? This ain’t Liam Neeson trying to jump a fence requiring 20 jump cuts.

                there was that one vid where the tank takes 7 missiles before the turret comes off... that one was pretty weird.

                Yep, and it may even have been blown up via demo charges given how many times they hit it and the jump cuts.

                This is my whole problem with choppy videos, we really cannot say what actually happened. And thus we cannot even begin to build a relative weapon successful strike probability from this war.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The Russians using 3! On a fireteam trying to medivac a wounded member
            That was Ukrainians using them against Russians, you can find news articles praising them about it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have always wanted a technical with water cooled maxims.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The cage on top wold obviously work in countering all the drop grenades from drones videos.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      or you could just stop leaving your hatches open all the time

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They stopped bothering with all that stuff.
    Turns out the missiles are shit.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The armor setup makes it look like they're expecting arty or armored fire from the front (reactive armor) and infantry attacks (Javelin, etc) from the rear. Cope cage is still off and copin', though.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    nobump

    oh look it's another polish flag shill spamming about the fundraising telethon in The ukraine again
    get back in your general homosexual convention thread that all discerning readers filter
    faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggots

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depleted uranium tipped bullets pierce through meters of pure steel.
    /thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Depleted uranium tipped bullets pierce through meters of pure steel.

      Ukraine doesn't have such technology tho.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of retard thinks cage armour is meant to protect from APSFS rounds?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kek

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          don't worry, [email protected], we're not going to steal your copyrighted dumb pic of orcish war chariots

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh wow lol, you feds are using the Carlos incorrectly. Who would have ever guessed you guys were incompetent?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if they hit face first at a perpendicular angle of course
      >hit cope cage
      >the projectile tilts and rolls hitting side first or at a bad angle into the armor making just a dent or not just enough penetration sliding on the armor's surface
      that's why it is effective

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So this Belarusian cage was developed to counter BOPS of the fifth generation such as M829A4 capable of penetrating the armor of all existing and prospective tanks? Powerful.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >M829A4 capable of penetrating the armor of all existing and prospective tanks?
          That round can't penetrate Armata (ca. 900 mm RHA equiv. with 65° slope on the front)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That round can't penetrate Armata

            Indeed, it can't penetrate something that doesn't exist.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russians were so proud of their new-gen Relikt ERA they used in T-90M Proryv-3, and - as it was lately proved - Ukrainians were able to destroy these 5 mln dollar tanks with AT4s worth 1k $. I won't believe in anything Russians say without checking it out on the battlefield.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, they disabled the tracks and another T-90 destroyed it from behind after the crew got out

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nope, they disabled the tracks

                How come? You could see turret catching fire in the video.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you a bot or did you just stop reading my post half-way through?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the crew got out
                >he doesn't know

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                BTW, i am curious why Russians didn't use even one Armata during the Ukraine war. Wouldnt it be great to test such a sophisticated equipment against American-made ATGMs?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And yet, the biggest enemy of russian tanks has been artillery. Because they love forming up in the open during the day.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know of entire cope country.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It probably does work against DPICM and HIMARS since the submunitions on those are quite small. Not so much against Javelins though.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that cage may stop one strike
    but how many more can it stop?
    the next one will destroy the tank

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It works pretty well. The posts making fun of them are shills who have no idea how shape charges work. Which ATGMs, RPGs, Javelins, and HEAT rounds all use.

    The U.S. has used slat armor since Vietnam. Where it was just chain link fencing. The U.S. used it again in Iraq, pic rel.

    Shape charges have severely reduced effectiveness when detonated early or the charge is deformed before detonation. Its funny because its also the reason spaced armor was created, which accomplishes essentially the same purpose as spaced armor. Well munitions manufacturers accounted for this by having some warheads have a delay in detonation, having slat and spaced armor nullifies those effects.

    Hence why the sabot will always be king when it comes to anti armor. Simple design that doesn't rely on ideal conditions to get the job done.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We installed QinetiQ nets on our APCs in Afghanistan and Iraq. They were quite effective against primitive RPGs, blocking or breaking the coherence of the projectile's cumulative flux. But would it work against modern ATGMs? I am full of doubts.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most RPGs fired are still 'oldschool' RPGs without fancy stuff

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >
      Shape charges have severely reduced effectiveness when detonated early or the charge is deformed before detonation

      Based. So I wasn't wrong at all.

      If you get lucky the cope cage can make the incoming ATGM detonate early which means it will not get through the armor. Not sure how likely this.

      If you get lucky the cope cage can make the incoming ATGM detonate early which means it will not get through the armor. Not sure how likely this.

      If you get lucky the cope cage can make the incoming ATGM detonate early which means it will not get through the armor. Not sure how likely this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Top attack doesn't mean that the missile flies vertically down on the tank tho, lol. Attacks are made at various angles.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sabot will always be king when it comes to anti armor
      Best bang for buck too.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i believe the metal grating is meant to detonate incoming warheads prematurely which reduces the energy from the metal jet or something, which in turn reduces the depth that it penetrates into the actual tank armor. It's similar to what those metal skirts did on WW2 tanks. i don't think it works at all against ATGM's but against RPG-like weapons it should work. there's a YT channel that does high-end simulations of this kind of stuff and i'm pretty sure it worked well in some cases, significantly reducing the penetrating power of the incoming jet/plasma or whatever the fuck you call that shit that forms after detonation.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    america uses slat armor too lol, the purpose of slat armor isn't even to defend against ATGMs

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there akvilla?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Cope cage" was used to protect against bombs droped by drones in Syria. They are not factory-built.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can anyone explain why this is a bad or ineffective way of helping to protect a tank?

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Polacks go to war in ukraine with their own supply of chickens.
    >We're not gonna starve to deaACK

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were working too well so the russians stopped using them

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a better guppy instead.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dont javelins just see in infrared and dont go for the hotest spot just the spot that the operator selected it to target?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, the tracking is more sophisticated because of the greater potential for multiple vehicles in the scene or alternative heat sources like nearby debris on fire.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The intention of the cope cages originally was to counter the threat of RPGs fired from the tops of buildings in urban areas. It just so happened though that the West dumped tons of ATGMs onto the battlefield so they ended up being not useful. The cope cages weren't meant to defend against ATGM, this was a tactical mistake but they would be very effective against the RPGs they were anticipating. The torch in bucket countermeasure has no proven usefulness from what I've seen but was still a good try.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Are there any videos
    no
    >solutions are useful
    no

    if they haven't been used they are not solutions, they are just ideas
    we did see a few vids with cage armor over the turret, but that stuff quickly disappeared because it either didn't work, or was unnecessary in the first place

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"Cope cage"

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Are there any videos proving that pic-related solutions are useful on the battlefield?
    RESPONSE: Are there any videos proving they are NOT useful on the battlefield?

    OPINION:
    I see 3 possibilities:
    1) They work enough to field, and all claims that they don't are pure propaganda.
    2) They don't work at all, and all claims they don't work are pure propaganda.

    ~I'm going to presume the Russians have done enough testing to determine these features ARE worth fielding.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They should work 50% of the time, or bettwr.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's been done since world war 2 and I don't think it would still be done if it weren't at least somewhat effective.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are minute deterrents.
    They normally do not work.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ineffective against Railguns I bet.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They´re arguably more useful now that ukrainians are relying more on old RPGs with small impact fuzes (anything that resembles a PG7V), completely useless against anything modern, or top attack. Statistical armor since a couple decades ago is only useful on situations like afghanistan

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    depends on the steel of the cage
    on the T-90 they use a special variety of it, regular steel gets obliterated by RPGs
    so the answer would be yes

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Slat armour is useful against stuff like RPG-7. The roof part was probably based on experience is Grozy and similar fighting.
    I don't think they are very useful against the better weapons that the West has been dumping there.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >russians cobble together a tank from kitchen utensils
    >wreck murrikan top of the line $50000 an hour running cost tanks

    LMAO

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    will this pasta ever stop being funny???
    ***
    >We are not invading Ukraine
    Invades Ukraine
    >We are not shelling civilians
    Shells civilians
    >We are not losing
    routs
    >We are not digging up radiation in Chernobyl
    Digs up radiation in Chernobyl
    >Our flagship had an accident
    Flagship hit by missile
    >Our flagship is being towed
    Flagship sunk; giant oil stain can be seen from space
    >We have T14 and SU57
    Fights a war with neither
    >We do not lie
    Lies
    >We are not raping women and kids
    Rapes women and kids and boasts about it
    >Our economy is not crashing
    Economy crashes
    >NATO is at war with us
    Is at war with Ukraine
    >Ukraine started war
    Invaded Ukraine
    >Is Christian nation
    Sends in hordes of muzzies, snowasiatics and other weird pagans to rape and murder white christians
    >Stalin did nothing wrong
    Stalin
    >Communism is the best system
    System collapses
    >We have captured Mariupol
    Took only 4 months
    >We did not spread subversion and terror for 100 years
    Spreads subversion and terror for 100 years
    >Russian military stronk
    Russian military weak
    >Russian economy stronk
    Russia economy the size of Spains but with 3.5 times the population
    >Sanctions not affecting us
    Interest rates at 20% stopping home buying
    >We won't send conscripts to Ukraine
    Sends conscripts to Ukraine
    >Boris Nemtsov was not murdered by Putin
    Putin has murdered Boris Nemtsov
    >Putin did not blow up flat blocks in Moscow to get elected
    Putin blew up flat blocks in Moscow
    >Russia has only 1,300 dead
    Has lost three times that number of vehicles
    >Rouble is strong
    Rouble has developed blackmarket exchange rate; 75% of federal reserve arrested by US and allies on day one; burned through another $40 BLN in 50 days
    >Russia has many friends and allies worldwide
    Friends are Assad, Kim Jong Un, Alexander Lukashenko and Isaias Afwerki
    >EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED
    convoys out in the open get drone striked over and over and over and over and over and over AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN
    COPE.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you mentally challenged?

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