Are there any girls that are actually into shy, wimpy, passive men, or is that a universal turn off for them like being short?

Are there any girls that are actually into shy, wimpy, passive men, or is that a universal turn off for them like being short?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being shy and having no confidence is a major turn off. Arguably the strongest one.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What about being withdrawn and passive mostly, but confident if engaged?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The entire definition of being shy/withdrawn/passive is having low confidence. Anything after that will be perceived as you faking it (because you are) which is worse than having none.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >shy...
          Corrent
          >...withdrawn...
          Debatable
          >....passive is having low confidence.
          How?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            A confident person does not 'go with the flow', they choose which direction the river is going in the first place.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bullshit mindset.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wanting to frick le anime and vidya charecters also won't go over well.
            Not really.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, it's not. Confidence is the confidence to enforce your will on others.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's the guys who have to be the loudest person in the room who have lowest confidence.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah except that’s bullshit.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Somebody with actual confidence doesn't feel the need to prove how great they are to everyone and be the center of attention all the time.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's just cope my man. They don't feel the need to prove anything, they just naturally become the center of attention because they're so confident.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They don't feel the need to prove anything
            So you say he's coping and then you agree with him anyway? That's exactly what he said.
            /adv/ at its finest.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The only thing you're confident in is posting children's cartoons on NSFFW. Slow it down a bit before you become a rockstar or something.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you need to be engaged with first in order to be confident...you're not actually confident.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You left out shy here, so yes, it's not unattractive if you mainly keep to yourself, except that if you don't leave that zone to approach a girl and engage with her, she's not going to be interested in you. And then once you have her interest you'll need to engage with her friends and then her family.

        There's a reason for all this. She needs to know that you will protect her, protect your child, and step up when some indirect or growing threat like an overbearing parent or a shithead schoolteacher is exerting pressure on your family.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm certainly not, can't speak for anyone else.

        >withdrawn and passive mostly, but confident if engaged?
        Oh! You mean actually introverted, i.e. happy with his life and his plans in it and keeps to himself? That's cool. Not as attractive as being the center of attention but it's cool.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wow I wonder why women would spend the last decade telling us to act like that and screaming if we don’t hmmmmmm

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >universal
    You already lost the plot buddy. There's at least one girl out there's who's into any given attribute you could name.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >one girl out there's who's into any given attribute you could name.

      No, there isn't. They don't have male brains.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They don't have male brains
        malebrainedness isn't a binary. there's certainly women with more masculine brains than the 90th percentile of men

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          ynbaw

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seconding this. I'm a short, timid, sensitive guy who loves to talk about feelings, and I managed to find a woman who's particularly into men like me. She's pregnant with our daughter literally right now.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        OP means being a crybaby who plays anime all the time though not being in touch with his emotions or coming to her poetry class.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          How exactly does one play anime?

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll date a confident short man as long as he's not noticeably shorter than me. I won't date a passive and insecure wimp. So it's worse than being short.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    probably around 0.01% of women prefer men who are like that, and it’s mainly a fetish thing

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is it even biologically possible for men to be cowardly if nature doesn't want them to be?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bravery is epigenetic. It occurs when you go through enough hardship, but life is really easy these days.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        same reason there's still gays, evolution acts on genes and not individuals, and non reproductive individuals that do work to benefit the herd in social species allow the propagation of genes by the reproductive individuals

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Explain Deadbeat Dads then lol. Lot of definitely non-productive men having kids. You are right that OP will likely not find a woman who's turned on by him being a passive little b***h. Maybe in the bedroom but not in real life.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's something that society generated rather than genes alone

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cowardly men are more likely to survive because they avoid risky situations that could get them killed. So it's a wash.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Do girls like unattractive guys???

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Shy
    I was shy when I met my GF, she liked that about me. She was used to men not shutting up about themselves before we met and found it refreshing that I was content to listen to her talk. She says it was fun getting me to open up to her, and I agree it was a lot of fun getting to know her and opening up.
    >Wimpy
    This is just fetish territory, women who want a wimp want a man to walk on and exploit, not to love. You need to have a spine just to get by in this world.
    >Passive
    Being passive isn't going to hurt your chances tok badly unless you take it to an extreme. If someone cuts you off in traffic and you don't lay on the horn, whatever that shows restraint. If someone spits in your food as they pass by you, you better be able to stand up for yourself.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are there any girls that are actually into shy, wimpy, passive men, or is that a universal turn off for them like being short?
    The only women into Shy, Wimpy, passive men are women who want someone they can walk all over. They are women who don't want a real relationship based on taking and giving, they want someone they can dominate and this is very dangerous.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    short answer: no
    long answer: some women will say they are into shy guys, but they're mostly lying to themselves. just like guys who say they prefer fatties/aren't into casual sex/etc.
    I guess it's a cope or self-esteem thing

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me honestly OP why would any girl want this type of boy like really just think second about it

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes there is, but they will not respect you and will cheat on you.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Natural order is for women to want someone with strong characteristics to pass on to their offspring.

    Women who are attracted to wimpy, passive men are just looking to dominate them and make their life hell.

    >I love beta guys.
    A year later
    >Jesus, my boyfriend is so boring..

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there no hope for me if I struggle with being social? I am autistic and quiet but I think there's a lot I could offer as a sympathetic and honest person.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      (You)-ing myself because I need to know. I feel like even other girls who are quiet and autistic don't want someone like me. When I am one on one with somebody I can build a connection but I disappear in group settings. I also have difficulty trusting people which leads to me being somewhat aloof at first

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a universal turnoff. Being short is probably more leeway.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are there any girls that are actually into shy, wimpy, passive men,
    Yes, and they weigh more than you. if you're a uguu >_< smol bean :3 shyboy, there's gonna be a great big fat b***h who loves to boss you around.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >shy
    Are you a rape victim?
    >wimpy
    Trying to get me killed?
    >passive
    You'll waste my time when I approach you and take initiative?

    You're a walking waste of space.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How about being confident about your flaws and shortcomings? Let me explain..
    I am fully aware of my flaws and lacking points in comparison of other people, like my charisma is twice as low as this country's bare minimum, too polite and respectful, my tastes dont match anyone's tastes, I have self esteem issues, Im shy, kind of ugly... and I can tell you all of this with a straight face and finish it with asserting the fact I dont stress over any of it and I just do my best to be a good person overall.

    Is that a red flag? Like I have my problems, but Im too tired about it to care and it doesnt make socializing difficult on a surface level, so I just roll with it and make improvements at my own pace.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >my charisma is twice as low as this country's bare minimum, too polite and respectful, my tastes dont match anyone's tastes, I have self esteem issues, Im shy, kind of ugly... and I can tell you all of this with a straight face and finish it with asserting the fact I dont stress over any of it and I just do my best to be a good person overall.

      >Is that a red flag?
      No anon, and I'm sure you're not as ugly or uncharismatic as you believe you are. And even if you were, nobody who is looking for a partner measures someone's worth by their facial bone structure, or if they say funny things at a party. Those things count for squat when it comes to being somebody who wants to care about others and be cared in turn, which is basically the only trait that matters when it comes to being a good partner.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally yes
    Who the frick in the Actual Real World only likes people for these bare attributes? Why do you think people are just boiled down Natures like they're fricking Pokemon?
    Literally nobody is like this!! Actually just get to know people instead of categorizing yourself and other people as reductive things like a giant dork.
    Everyone is different. There are no universalities among anyone, except that we need food, water, and bleed. Get to know the people around you and stop relying on pretend categories to simplify and cope with your fear of the infinite, changing world.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      anon likely believes this because he is a shallow man with a shallow view of women, so he believes women are the same.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't really blame him or anyone else for thinking this; virtually everyone who browsed these boards, myself included, were given a raw deal in terms of social development, and probably a lot of trauma regarding shame. But because we're all big-brained autists, we just have to categorize and conceptualize everything like we're learning to play a new complex strategy game. Problem is that the world doesn't run on 1s and 0s, and if we actually swallow our own bullshit, that black-and-white rigid thinking will end up being used against us by our own goddamn brains.
        Which is why people who start thinking like this need to be shaken hard and realize our gamer brains aren't going to do all of the heavy-lifting; we have to just have faith and Develop Experience, and when we fall down and get hurt, not to internalize it as us being 'bad' or 'defectice' or 'short', but someone who gets hurt like everyone else.
        We fear that hurt though, because unlike most other people/'''''''''normies''''''''''', nobody is there to tend to our wounds, or those that were said it was our own faults.
        It sucks but we just have to be brave. I believe in you all.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          bro I browse this board and I’m probably somewhere on the spectrum but I never ended up like this. I think it comes down to having the ability to filter chronically online bullshit from how the real world works. your biggest mistake is buying into these incel blackpill theories, if you ignored them you’d be socially successful.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not

            I don't really blame him or anyone else for thinking this; virtually everyone who browsed these boards, myself included, were given a raw deal in terms of social development, and probably a lot of trauma regarding shame. But because we're all big-brained autists, we just have to categorize and conceptualize everything like we're learning to play a new complex strategy game. Problem is that the world doesn't run on 1s and 0s, and if we actually swallow our own bullshit, that black-and-white rigid thinking will end up being used against us by our own goddamn brains.
            Which is why people who start thinking like this need to be shaken hard and realize our gamer brains aren't going to do all of the heavy-lifting; we have to just have faith and Develop Experience, and when we fall down and get hurt, not to internalize it as us being 'bad' or 'defectice' or 'short', but someone who gets hurt like everyone else.
            We fear that hurt though, because unlike most other people/'''''''''normies''''''''''', nobody is there to tend to our wounds, or those that were said it was our own faults.
            It sucks but we just have to be brave. I believe in you all.

            , but I also browse this site (and I also assume that I'm somewhere on the spectrum). The online world is definitely not 1:1 with the real world, but I'd hesitate to call of it bullshit. The complaints and experiences have to come from somewhere, right?

            I only really started coming here after getting fed up with IRL stuff. I don't subscribe to the blackpill mindset because there exist all manner of frickups that still find social "success", but it's absolutely true that some people have to put in more work to keep pace. And if you're putting in the reps and still not seeing the progress or accruing those small wins, it's VERY easy to see why people swallow the blackpill.

            I'd say anyone can do it, but everyone will bleed a different amount. Some of that blood will be a skill issue, and the other part will be a luck issue. How much is too much is something that each person has to decide for themselves. You can either grind it out until you hit paydirt, or you can accept things as they are and divert focus elsewhere.

            Neither is wrong. After all, you only need to win once. But if you lose your appetite after years of watching the sausage being made, I don't blame you.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think the people who find an easier time of it find an easier time not because of how they look, or other unchanging characteristics like their height, but literally just if they were loved adequately growing up or felt the courage to take social risks. I don't doubt a super handsome buff charismatic person might have an easier time, but honestly as someone who dates a lot and goes to bars, it's just people who make others feel comfy in their presence and who are funny that have the most social success.
            I guarantee most people on here were either neglected and/or abused and if they ever ventured out and made a mistake, didn't have someone to help them feel better about it and remind them "hey, you're still a good person, you're still loved." So because of that, they never took many risks out of fear of re-activating that shame gland, and thus never developed the same amount of experience as other people. In an effort to compensate, they then leaned on Theory and Gamer Strats that don't apply to complex reality (or in worse cases are actively harmful to people ie Red Pill theory/blackpill/whateverthefrick).
            I completely agree with not blaming anyone for the rabbitholes they fall down. Back in 2014 i fell down absolute stupid rabbitholes like GamerGate; if I had the partner I do now, the friendship I do now, or the job I do now, I wouldn't have fallen so far because literally anyone would hear me talk about random women on the internet >RUINING GAMES JOURNALISM BRO!!!!!!! and say "uhhh, what's going on big guy? You okay?"

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're half right, but the price of failure for a guy went from maybe getting a drink thrown at you or slapped, to getting publicly shamed or literal criminal charges. Enough women had no problems throwing an ugly guy under the bus that many stopped trying, meanwhile if a 9/10 guy did the same thing they'd be flattered- and because women are women, there's no way to know which bucket you fall into.

            I know a very kindly older couple who go to church often. They know I have a poor relationship with my family, so I go over to their place sometimes for tea and biscuits and we watch Three's Company.
            One day I'm staying up late eating lightly-salted lays chips with the older gentlement--let's call him gramps.
            "Hey gramps, I've been thinking. You have such a nice life and a nice companian. What about Darwin's theory of evolution do you think set you up for success? Do you think it was more of a Chad spirit that endowed you with the genetic slushie-wushie boned-ness that allows your FEMALE to like you? I gotta say you seem awful old and your posture isn't that good, are you afraid of being cucked by a chad alpha redpilled SEXXMAXXER? also you wouldn't literally karate-chop me when I called your wife a dumb prostitute; how did you overcome your passivity in the face of dishonorable heightmocking (btw your muscles are weak af and ur shitty posture makes you 5'1)"

            The literal frick is this bot tier word salad

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody would be publicly shamed or face literal criminal charges for just talking and interacting with people and getting to know them like a human being, which is where most peoples' problems come from on here. They imagine as soon as they walk in the bar every woman clocks their bone structure, sizes them up like it's fricking V.A.T.S. from Fallout 3, and determines their entire worth based off of attributes that nobody can change, and that have nothing to do with a person's capacity to love.
            If you are LITERALLY JABBA THE HUT, yes, people might initially avoid you or avert their eyes. But if you expose yourself to enough social situations without pissing your pants, shitting, spontaneously cumming, or saying anything creepy or threatening, you will naturally find people who like you and want to get to know you.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Nobody would be publicly shamed or face literal criminal charges for just talking and interacting with people and getting to know them like a human being
            Get out from under that rock. It's 2023.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like wimpy short men.

    Then again, I like a specific wimpy short guy who's such a sweetheart, I can't help but love him.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes there are girls who are into those kind of men. They can be either: shy and insecure girls who believe that they should be with shy and insecure men which is a recipe for disaster, they can be girls with more masculine personalities who can appreciate the character of men by other metrics, they also can be girls with maternity complexes who actively seek men they can nurture and protect which usually ends up in disaster or they can be manipulative c**ts who seek exploitable men...which usually ends up in disaster.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being short is not a universal turn off lol.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, it's an interdimensional one

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >interdimensional
        >it's literally related to a singular dimension
        You tried.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They do exist but are incredibly rare, it’s basically a niche fetish. Even a dominatrix usually won’t like it. If I had to guess, I’d say the number of women into that is probably a full order of magnitude smaller than the number of men who are into fat chicks (and I mean fat, not just thick), and even that is a high estimate.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah dominatrices prefer domming tall, masculine men. I'm guessing it's some sort of "beast tamer" thing. Probably why white women always have 120lb pitbulls kek.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    So do you follow guidance or are you a brat/butthole towards authority figures?

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    After reading this thread I want to kill myself
    t. shy and passive dude

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same.
      And I hate how the advice people give is to just fundamentally change your personality.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't have to full 180 become the life of the party sucking the air out the room laughing at your own stories, but god damn it make an effort will you and don't be forever staring at your shoes in silence

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you don't want to make compromises don't expect others to do the same for you. Quit being so selfish.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          But I've been told I'm worthy of love the way I am. Was this a lie?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Love doesn't exist. It comes with requirements.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      instead of doing that, how about you find some god damn confidence and drive you soiboi.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you don't want to make compromises don't expect others to do the same for you. Quit being so selfish.

        You don't have to full 180 become the life of the party sucking the air out the room laughing at your own stories, but god damn it make an effort will you and don't be forever staring at your shoes in silence

        I tried but my life didn't progress so I went back to stake one.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a universal turnoff. Being short is probably more leeway.

      Yes there is, but they will not respect you and will cheat on you.

      short answer: no
      long answer: some women will say they are into shy guys, but they're mostly lying to themselves. just like guys who say they prefer fatties/aren't into casual sex/etc.
      I guess it's a cope or self-esteem thing

      >is that a universal turn off for them like being short?
      It is.
      The only "girls" (read: transvestites) who would be into such description of men were like that in the past before they "transition."

      …you people don’t actually believe this, right? You’re just being bitter, right? Like, the number of women who have contradicted it speaks for itself.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the number of women who have contradicted it speaks for itself
        Give the number

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          In my own life, at least five, including myself. Why do you think I’m on NSFFW anyway? I like to hang out with shy, lonely men. Take one look at /soc/ and you’ll see plenty of women looking for that.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          one out of a thousand

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know you're trying to be nice and all but your anecdotal evidence counts for shit. Likewise, I can turn around and tell you that the only relationships I've had in my adult life were claimed during periods of confidence, seeking fun (not women) and being outgoing and simply not giving a frick; while having absolutely zero options/female interest during periods of withdrawal, depression, and low confidence.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        women have no idea what they want. they're easily malleable by their surroundings.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      same

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's definitely a turnoff for me
    there's only room for one shy person here

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      he asked girls not bottom gays

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I read a lot of the comments from the other girls, and wanted to give a different outlook.

    Yes, most girls will not like it when you do those things,

    However, I am not most girls.

    Let me tell you a story:

    When I was in college, we had co-ed dorms where every other suite was all guys or girls, with two room for each suite, so we had a roommate, and two suitemates, next door, we shared a shower and sink, but that was it, other than roommates sharing the room.

    So, I knew this guy that lived next suite over, we'll call him Lance.

    Lance fits the bill for what you're describing: He was 5'3", and very quiet. Graphic Design was his major, so he was often just massively immersed at his computer, and I wouldn't see him very much at first, but I remember meeting him at the orientation. While the other girls found him very off-putting with how shy and standoffish he was trying to play the games that the older students had organized for us, he found himself often doing the games alone, and I remember being so sad seeing him waddle around awkwardly trying to catch up, only to fall down.

    I remember coming over and chatting with him, and he eventually joined my friend and opened up a little around me. I always thought he was very cute, but it was also a bit mysterious, I thought he was hiding a cooler part of himself beyond all of that awkward mess, so I tried to hang out with him more and see if he was like.

    But at the end of the day, he was passive, and not very strong, but he was also very considerate of me, and caring of my feelings, which I absolutely loved about him. I remember having friends who I eventually let go of who would tell me I was wasting my time, but I couldn't have agreed more.

    I remember coming to visit once in awhile, and one time, his roommate had gone home, so we were all by ourselves. I remember we hung out, and it turned into me sucking his dick since he had forgotten the love of a girlfriend, and now, we're married with kids.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's always easier when the girl already likes you. For me, there was always someone else she liked and I was #2, constantly- maybe she's into you or maybe you're just the entertainment, and you have no way of knowing. Being told "I would have dated you if not for <current guy>" multiple times gets old fast- they might have meant well but it has the same energy as "I wish I could find a guy like you".

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      YES.
      It's literally just if people speak and interact with you positively and aren't attaching their self-worth to whether or not you'll like them. If in the back of someone's mind is "omg if she doesn't like me it'll confirm that i'm a worthless short incel bro!!! it's not fair my genes are so shitty I wish I was a chad!!" it'll leak through in how they look at the world. When you boil it down, who would want to socialize with someone with such a hostile view of themselves and the world, that their owrth is bound up entirely in unchanging characteristics?? How do you from a relationship with someone if they don't believe in concepts like "love" or "community"? The blackpill worldviews are entirely antisocial

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd imagine there are a subset of blackpillers that simply digested whatever they read online and became that way, but I'd imagine that at least some of them have come to that conclusion through their own personal experiences.

        Whether those conclusions are based in reality or just their perception of it is one thing, but I don't think it's a stretch to see where that conclusion comes from. If you were unattached, and you met two men/women/whatevers with whom you shared an equivalent rapport, but one of them was average-looking and the other was a knockout, can you honestly say you wouldn't be more inclined towards the knockout? I know I'd be biased towards an attractive girl.

        If every good-looking person was an ass or otherwise unpleasant, then the field evens out a bit and things would come down to more "right place, right time". But all other things equal, you're basically playing the same game of chance but with lower odds. One shouldn't place their self-worth in the hands of other people, that's true, and it's definitely a waste to spend too much time wallowing over things that can't be changed. But it's not an irrational train of thought, and while maybe extreme, I'd argue those "antisocial" worldviews are learned behavior and not super unrealistic.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't believe you 🙁

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he had forgotten the love of a girlfriend
      Right in the feels

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I act like that type of men so women stay away from me. Fricking prostitutes don't deserve me.

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No dude, evolution just does not work that way

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know a very kindly older couple who go to church often. They know I have a poor relationship with my family, so I go over to their place sometimes for tea and biscuits and we watch Three's Company.
      One day I'm staying up late eating lightly-salted lays chips with the older gentlement--let's call him gramps.
      "Hey gramps, I've been thinking. You have such a nice life and a nice companian. What about Darwin's theory of evolution do you think set you up for success? Do you think it was more of a Chad spirit that endowed you with the genetic slushie-wushie boned-ness that allows your FEMALE to like you? I gotta say you seem awful old and your posture isn't that good, are you afraid of being cucked by a chad alpha redpilled SEXXMAXXER? also you wouldn't literally karate-chop me when I called your wife a dumb prostitute; how did you overcome your passivity in the face of dishonorable heightmocking (btw your muscles are weak af and ur shitty posture makes you 5'1)"

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        you sound like a homosexual

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have every terrible trait for a guy. Short, shy, passive, ugly, dumb, mentally ill. I gave up in my 20s and just accepted I'm inferior garbage who will be alone in my 30s

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Short, shy, passive, ugly, dumb, mentally ill
      None of those are dealbreakers. I know it's hard to believe, but even if they're all completely unchangingly true, if you're just a good person who cares about others and expose yourself to enough experiences to understand how people feel and think, you will be able to navigate your way to partnership. I'm not saying it won't be hard, but it's your karma (the hand you were dealt in life). It isn't your fault, but if you want to be of service to the world, it's your responsibility to work with it.
      The more you focus on the world, and the greater your capacity for care and spiritual growth becomes, the more you'll realize these things don't at all hold you back.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Stop posting cope for losers

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are lots of women who are into men like that. They usually charge around 500/hr. And you know what? Weak pathetic men like you pay them.

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a universal turn off for them like being short
    This meme needs to die. I am just 6 feet dwarf and I get more pussy than any other man I know

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Browsing some of the NSFFW type websites specifically for females shows that there are girls out there that really are into wimpy shy men.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't worry, benzos and alcohol can cure shyness (temporarily)

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It depends. These traits are mutable and are not mutually inclusive.
    I'm shy, but I wouldn't say I'm either wimpy or passive. Someone told me I have the "quietest self confidence they've ever seen." My fiance is like 5 feet tall and loves to pick on me, and I usually respond by spanking her on the ass or putting her keys on top of the fridge.

    I've mostly approached my relationship with the spirit of play, rather than domination or control, and I think it's been very successful. I've never been some loud-mouthed homosexual trying to get into a fight, and I never will be. It's not like you have to be all "WHATCHU LOOKIN AT homie?!" to impress a woman, and for the most part she gets pissed if I so much as flip someone off in traffic.

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is that a universal turn off for them like being short?
    It is.
    The only "girls" (read: transvestites) who would be into such description of men were like that in the past before they "transition."

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    you are better of cute but confident. ask my mormon wives

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being short is not a universal turnoff, you're just a coping lanklet virgin.

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't believe anything anyone says on this site. I've never had a good experience as a shy person. It's very off-putting for people

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are there any girls that are actually into shy, wimpy, passive men
    If shy = introverted then yes

    Wimpy? No, can't imagine anyone likes wimpy people, male or female

    Passive? Depends on your definition I guess. If you mean they take things as they come, adapt to things instead of trying to control everything like a crazy person then yeah, of course that's likeable. If you mean passive as in.. wimpy, then no, of course that's not likeable lol

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. There are many women who are doms and I imagine almost all of them would like such a man.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doms don't want beta cucks. That's boring. They want to dominate high test alphas because it's a true role reversal. Seeing a man like that kneel before her gets her going because it makes her truly feel powerful. Domming a wimp doesn't give that feeling; it's like crushing a bug.

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im shy and passive, and that has served me in the passed. Some women find it cute. Whimpy? Try and hide that.

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    SSRI/birth control damaged females who will abuse you.

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nope. I'm a woman, I'm a mess, I need someone to keep me in line. Don't care about height, do care about weight. More specifically I care about health.
    However there are plenty of dominant women out there that would love to walk all over you!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      How about you stop being a mess and keep yourself in line? You would be doing a disservice to your partner otherwise.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wish I could. Period says otherwise. It's not too extreme, but when my hormones start acting up I need someone to tell me I'm being irrational. It's over pretty quickly as I realise it's hormones. If my bf doesn't stop me, I can't stop myself, I might accidentally hurt the guy.

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How the frick do I cope with the fact that I'm extremely confident, assertive and dominant to males but shy when talking to females? I have no problems being the dominant alpha male against other males, no problem controlling them, no problem talking shit, no problem fighting. But when it comes to chicks my autism really just shine. It's like I turn into a little b***h when I want to talk to a girl. Me, the guy who doesn't mind living or dying when confronted, the guy who will do anything against other dudes to get what he wants, turns into a giant pussy when it comes to women. How do I fix this? What did I do wrong in life for this to even occur?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's actually attractive though. The fact that you do have courage against men and not give a frick but get shy towards women, I think it's charming.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you're putting women on a pedestal
      they're literally children mentally

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dude, talk to them, you'll lose all respect for them eventually.

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is a loaded question because I like smaller boys, frick you.

    As for your question, passive men can only get away with it if they're cute and make me want to pamper them. Shyness is a pretty cringe trait in general, men only like it in women because men are hypercoomers that will fetishize anything girls do. It's otherwise just a waste of everyone's time. Lack of communication because you're afraid of committing to what you say and how you come off is not cutesy.

    And define "wimpy". If it's because you're thin and pretty sure that's okay, if it's because you're fat and lazy, gross.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >As for your question, passive men can only get away with it if they're cute
      based and blackpilled

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    There was a niche for it around 2006-10 probably due to Michael cera type shit. Dunno if its still a thing but even still the majority of women aren't going to be into that

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you’re hot enough you can act however the frick you want and still get laid

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only very dominant and masculine ones. If that's what you want they're out there.

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do you guys understand by "wimpy"? I am so withdrawn from society that I don't even know if I am shy, passive or wimpy, I go out so rarely that I don't even know, but I don't have much problem initiating small talk with strangers.
    I believe I learned to stand up for myself as I had to take so much shit from other people. Last time I remember I paid for some service and guy who was supposed to do that wasted his time eating or some shit, so wasted my time and money while I left my job earlier to do that. So I politely told that what I think about that and that he should give back part of my money. But then he got angry and I did not wanted to escalate, I got in no shouting match or not even spend time defending my position too much just was like "yea dude whatever". Not sure if i came of as wimpy or I do good by standing up for myself.
    Often I have trouble showing my "true face" to other people or even telling them my true opinion especially when it comes to politics. I just don't want to get into conflicts and I am afraid this makes me look like a pussy, or wimpy or passive, shy

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm a shy passive man. thought i'd be alone forever.

    then eventually a girl took the initiative to try talking to me each time i saw her. then one day i grew the balls to ask for her number, and we have been talking non-stop ever since then. i had to friendzone her due to extreme emotional instability. but we still act like we're dating and we give each other affection on a no-commitment basis.

    don't listen to the blackpill shit on this thread. there's b***hes out there who will like you for who you are, as long as you're not insufferable. but there's always a point where you have to grow a fricking pair of balls and swing the bat.

  51. 10 months ago
    viky08

    EH YES, LITERALLY you just described my type of man

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