Are therapists useless?

The one I saw admitted he had no idea what my problems were, and just gave me a "just be positive bro" talk. I also found out that they can't diagnose you at all, and are there just to talk. None of this was ever explained to me and I had to find this out by my own research and trial and error.

Am I completely wrong for seeing therapists as useless or is there something that I'm missing? The average normal person gets a bit depressed sometimes and needs someone to give a pep talk to and support, but that's utterly worthless to me. I probably have a personality disorder or a psychological disorder.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty useless, yeah. All they do is ask you questions and you're meant to reach your own conclusions. They aren't allowed to give you any actual advice. You're unironically better off talking your shit through on LULZ as long as you have the ability to see past the trolls

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They aren't allowed to give you any actual advice.

      I noticed. when I saw one I went through my life strategies, which mostly consisted of horrifically maladaptive strategies. The therapist was kinda like "okay. Well uh, i guess we're done?". Like, they aren't allowed to say anything is bad/good which means the whole thing is a complete waste of time for everyone involved. So I end up feeling more depressed and miserable afterwards because there's no hope of improvement possible.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on what they practice, schema therapy kinda worked for me in that I managed to compartmentalize my thought patterns and deal with them appropriately, still if you think that therapy is someone "diagnosing your malady and giving you the key to happiness" you are way off.
    They are coaches and they try to figure stuff out along with you.
    If you don't go into therapy with the will to commit to the procedure, it won't work at all.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Therapy is a scam. Don’t waste your money and time on it.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been a few times. I felt like they were bullshit. Psychiatrists too. I distinctly remember one when I was a kid and she had some choice things to say to me... I wish I could get my hands on those medical records and see what she said about me.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was in years of therapy as a kid and I'd love to see those records too. But sadly I think they end up destroying those sorts of things over time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish my parents sent me to therapy or at least a psychiatrist as a kid. Maybe I wouldn't be so miserable now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My 3rd grade teacher reported me for being so god damn weird and crying all the time so I got sent into therapy. I remember going to some retreat with kids way more messed up than me. And I remember talking to a therapist who did things like taught me to give myself hugs but I didn't understand any of it. I don't really think it did me any good and I'm still a miserable weirdo at 37.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >they can't diagnose you at all, and are there just to talk.

    Not wholly true. Anyone can call themselves a "therapist," and you may find everything from licensed med school graduates to quacks. Obviously those at the higher end are equipped to do more, and many of them DO diagnose, offer advice and/or prescribe meds. You got somebody not able or allowed to do more than listen.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Go leave

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wahh wahh wahh why won’t the therapist solve all my problems wahhh

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Used to work in a mental health clinic and was an souring therapist until I worked in one
    About half to most of them are
    The good ones are very hard to find mostly because they are overbooked but they are absolutely worth investing the time to look if you really need it
    Maybe you don’t need a super deep therapist but just someone who will listen to you and give a little advice
    Depends on your needs really you have to see for yourself

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes
    /thread
    every other reply is from a normie npc reditor

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is a really common misunderstanding. Don't worry, OP.

    Psychiatrists diagnose you. They're the doctors.
    Therapists help you to develop healthy coping mechanisms and good habits, and to drop unhealthy coping mechanisms and bad habits. They're the counsellors.
    Both are useful, but it depends hugely on what you need from them.

    A therapist is good at helping you to find problems with your BEHAVIOUR. For a lot of people, this is really fucking helpful. Even if you are normally quite good at introspective thought, having a therapist to guide you along and offer a second perspective can be really useful. They can't tell you outright what to do (I don't think any doctor really can), but they can guide you, and help you to make good decisions. They can't offer medical advice though. They're not doctors.

    A psychiatrist deals specifically with mental illness. You would visit a psychiatrist to find out exactly what the fuck is wrong with your brain. A psychiatrist can diagnose you, and prescribe medication.

    Depending on what your specific issues are, you may benefit from seeing both of these people for help.
    I should mention that therapists are generally trained in a number of 'styles' or 'approaches' to helping a client. They tend to specialise in a small number of styles. If you go to the therapist and they aren't a great fit, chances are, they just don't use a style that works for you. It's a good idea to go into therapy and tell them what you want/expect from the sessions, and tell them what you need from them. If they're a bad fit, ask them to direct you to someone who might be better-suited for you.

    A lot of cunts give very bad advice and say therapy is useless. I think that's because they're jaded from bad previous matches, or abuse. That shit hurts 10x worse coming from a 'professional', and failure hurts when a treatment was supposed to help. But don't become a jaded dummy. There is good therapy out there, if you're willing to find it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've seen both, and neither were helpful. The therapist I saw gave me the "just be confident bro" talk and seemed incredibly stupid. After 2 sessions of going nowhere, with him admitting that he didn't know what was wrong with me I stopped bothering to come back.

      Next I saw the psychiatrist who more or less concluded the same thing. After a 60 minute consultation session, he concluded I was not in need of any medication as I was not suicidal or delusional. And that instead I should see a therapist.

      He implied that he only treats severe mental illness and everything else isn't serious enough for psychiatry. I didn't know any of this of course.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That cunt psychiatrist straight-up fucking lied to you, bro. He's 100% full of shit.

        If psychiatrists were only meant to diagnose suicidal or delusional people, then ONLY those people would ever be able to get diagnosed, or to get help. It's so fucking important to catch mental illnesses early, too, because a lot of them get worse with time. Schizophrenia is a really big, obvious example. If you don't get help early, it makes it extremely difficult to get results from help later in life.

        See another psychiatrist, man. Trust me, he was a fucking kook.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He was a bit older, and likely a bit more conservative in his approach. There could be some value in it as it would avoid over-diagnosis. However, I felt like I was running in circles.

          Ideally, I'd just like someone to go through my problems and identify what they could be and then offer science based therapeutic approaches. Surely, my problems have a name and can be dealt with right?

          It's important to recognize how much we expect from people who work in mental health. They are there to help us. Admitting our own problems, or that we may need help and actually coming there to get help is a big step we take ourselves. So we come there with great expectations. They are our hope. But not every therapists and psychiatrist is the same. Some of them are stupid, won't help us, may hurt us, misdiagnose, prescribe wrong meds. Because some people there are just stupid, or won't understand us. I've been there. I've been vulnerable and sought help, because I thought I'm not going to make it anymore. My first experiences were tough. I met a literal NPC psychiatrist who doesn't have an internal dialogue and when I told her I have one she diagnosed schizophrenia. I was vulnerable and weak, and I wouldn't have rejected this wrong diagnosis on my own, but thankfully, my mother was with me. She said she also thinks in her head. Psychiatrist lashed out "maybe you should seek help too".
          My point is - even something as basic as internal dialogue can be misinterpreted, because some of these workers can't understand or empathise with some part of you.
          I kept going. I finally found one psychiatrist that helped me. I'm still recovering from depression, but I've made progress. I also found a therapist that helped me, because I connected with her. You won't connect with everyone. People have drastically different situations, worldviews, personalities. Therapists are trained to navigate that, but not everyone is for you.
          The thing is - there are a lot of people for whom advice similar to that given to you would help, and there are people with hallucinations or ruminations, but we weren't them. I found someone right, and you will too. How can they help you? You will have someone to talk to, with knowledge of human nature. A second person with new insight, who isn't troubled with your problems and can guide you to light. It takes time and vulnerability. Be strong

          I've found just stating my actual honest to goodness opinions on myself I sound completely insane so I modify them to say what I'm "supposed" to say. It helps me blend in and pretend to be normal. The only difference between the child version of msyelf who was crying and freaking out all the time and current me is that I keep it internal. I never learned how to fix or handle any of it though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's important to recognize how much we expect from people who work in mental health. They are there to help us. Admitting our own problems, or that we may need help and actually coming there to get help is a big step we take ourselves. So we come there with great expectations. They are our hope. But not every therapists and psychiatrist is the same. Some of them are stupid, won't help us, may hurt us, misdiagnose, prescribe wrong meds. Because some people there are just stupid, or won't understand us. I've been there. I've been vulnerable and sought help, because I thought I'm not going to make it anymore. My first experiences were tough. I met a literal NPC psychiatrist who doesn't have an internal dialogue and when I told her I have one she diagnosed schizophrenia. I was vulnerable and weak, and I wouldn't have rejected this wrong diagnosis on my own, but thankfully, my mother was with me. She said she also thinks in her head. Psychiatrist lashed out "maybe you should seek help too".
        My point is - even something as basic as internal dialogue can be misinterpreted, because some of these workers can't understand or empathise with some part of you.
        I kept going. I finally found one psychiatrist that helped me. I'm still recovering from depression, but I've made progress. I also found a therapist that helped me, because I connected with her. You won't connect with everyone. People have drastically different situations, worldviews, personalities. Therapists are trained to navigate that, but not everyone is for you.
        The thing is - there are a lot of people for whom advice similar to that given to you would help, and there are people with hallucinations or ruminations, but we weren't them. I found someone right, and you will too. How can they help you? You will have someone to talk to, with knowledge of human nature. A second person with new insight, who isn't troubled with your problems and can guide you to light. It takes time and vulnerability. Be strong

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Therapists are frauds who just continue the lies you were told in elementary school, like that you are special and unique and that the world should treat you with kid gloves like you are a fragile fucking snowflake, instead of getting over yourself finally.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The whole point of a therapist is to help you get over yourself.
      God, I hate bitter fags like you.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The whole point of a therapist is to help you get over yourself.
        >God, I hate bitter fags like you.

        There's differing philosophies and schools of thought. There's a lot of therapists who are just very passive and just nod their heads and a lot of patients who are just narcissist weirdos who want someone to affirm everything they say. That class of person is often a social media addict, and is always in "therapy" but never sees any improvement. If challenged, that type of person would just shop around for another therapist until they found someone who affirms everything they say anyways.

        So there's good therapeudic approaches and worse ones. Something like cbt is all about challenging your mindset. There's other approaches where they feel like they just need to give "support" to weirdos and losers, and never challenge them, and that's not very useful.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >thinks you are over yourself
        >wasting time on the internet accusing others of being bitter fags
        You are exactly the type of loser that falls for this pseudoscience. I bet you take 50 different kinds of anti-depressants and delusionally believe that you are better than everyone for doing so, Karen.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Therapist are human, there are better ones and then there are worse ones, as you've noticed the ones that just try encouraging you are useless.
    >I also found out that they can't diagnose you at all
    correct
    >and are there just to talk
    Not really.
    A therapists job is to help you recognize the problem, where it comes from and how to address it.
    Therapists are more for overcoming bad habits like avoiding confrontation, anxiety and similar self destructive things like that.
    >The average normal person gets a bit depressed sometimes and needs someone to give a pep talk to and support, but that's utterly worthless to me.
    And that's not what a therapist does (or should do).
    Your friends are there for pep talks, a therapist's job is to be frank, help you grasp the problem and guide you to solve it.
    For example, I started going to a therapist recently and I've never been offered empty platitudes.
    The closest is saying "those are tendencies every person had, we're wired that way" and it's not really to make me feel better.

    I do often feel better after going to my therapist, but not because she told me I'm heckin cute and valid, but because I come out of it with a new perspective on something I've been struggling with for as long as I can remember.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Therapists are nothing. They are a complete waste of space.
    It's just capitalistic version of a colleague, where you have to pay someone just to speak.

    You have to figure out what is wrong yourself and work on it yourself.

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