I can't speak for all of them but the one I used to date definitely was
>career woman >depressed >borderline alcoholic >slew of abusive exes (according to her) >except for the last one who was a basedboy and whom she never really loved >incredibly insecure in her role as an emancipated woman >therefore offended at the smallest things but incapable of clear communication
People who have their shit together and aren't fucked in the head are usually paired off by 24. After that, you're heading into territory of being single for a good reason (meaning you're fucked up or a shit human being).
By 30... what's the possible positive take? Extreme "late bloomer"? Nah, it's lifelong players, single moms, the mentally ill, etc...
yes, but it is a good thing in the sense that they are already conscious about it and don't try to hide it. Women younger also have several issues but they either can't solve them yet or can still hide it.
You can't apply such a blanket statement to "women over 30." What if she recently moved states and had to break up with her long term boyfriend? What if he died? What if she was stuck in an abusive relationship for the last 5 years and before that she was with another guy for the previous 7 years?
Being "single" over 30 isn't necessarily a red flag. Being a virgin over 30 is, unless you just woke up from a 15 year coma or something. The point is, people are unique. Their situations are unique. If a woman is still single at 30 because she's spend the last 12 years on the cock carousal and has never had a serious relationship then yeah, that's a giant red flag.
The number of partners isn't the red flag, it's how she decides to have sex. If she's had 5x long term partners by the time she's 33 that's a lot better than an 18yo girl who went to a party and got railed by 5 guys. One is a slut, the other one is unlucky or has other problems if she couldn't get 5x guys to commit to her for more than a couple years.
You're confusing "red flag" with "dealbreaker". >. One is a slut, the other one is unlucky or has other problems if she couldn't get 5x guys to commit to her
Repeatedly having sex with guys who weren't committed to her is also slutty behavior. Her naivete isn't an excuse for recklessness.
>Repeatedly having sex with guys who weren't committed to her
Well she believed that they were since they were together for a few years. That's totally different than a slut who just lets 5x guys rail her at a party. Nobody waits until marriage these days and no guy should be getting married anyway the way the laws are set up. Being in a committed relationship with a guy makes having sex with him perfectly acceptable and not slutty.
>Well she believed that they were since they were together for a few years
That's my point. Her believing something doesn't make it reality. The reality is she WASN'T committed, which is why those guys were able to take her for granted and then ditch her. Her own behavior--delusions included--enabled that outcome. >Nobody waits until marriage these days and no guy should be getting married anyway
Both nonsense that create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>Being in a committed relationship with a guy makes having sex with him perfectly acceptable and not slutty.
I agree, but a committed relationship is called marriage. Dating, where either partner can leave on a whim without consequence, is not commitment.
Commitment in the sense of wanting to be together is important, too, but it's not sufficient--it only works until it doesn't, at which point, the person who is still mentally invested in the relationship is burdened with all of the consequences. Like a woman who wants a lasting relationship but keeps getting strung along and dumped by guys who never commit.
It's nothing to be ashamed of.
Virginity is at most a symptom of a problem, and it's frankly not a bad one. Mental illness of the kind that interferes with relationships typically translates to low impulse control and self-destructive behavior--like promiscuity. Someone who stays a virgin for moral reasons is commendable. Even for practical reasons, like not feeling ready to be in a relationship, it's respectable.
If you went out and lost your virginity for the sake of losing it, it wouldn't fix any issues you do have, and it would show additional issues in itself.
It's nothing to be ashamed of.
Virginity is at most a symptom of a problem, and it's frankly not a bad one. Mental illness of the kind that interferes with relationships typically translates to low impulse control and self-destructive behavior--like promiscuity. Someone who stays a virgin for moral reasons is commendable. Even for practical reasons, like not feeling ready to be in a relationship, it's respectable.
If you went out and lost your virginity for the sake of losing it, it wouldn't fix any issues you do have, and it would show additional issues in itself.
is bullshit and frankly a strange thing for them to say there’s absolutely nothing wrong with you. I would find you far more desirable as 30yo male who has been very successful with women and gets the ‘you’re in the top x% of uses!’ and has received free or discounted premium on dating apps.
I don't live in the USA but hey, a virgin in her 30s who goes on LULZ and is a bit on the spectrum would be ideal for me. Assuming she's not horrific looking. There's a man out there who's looking for you!
>be me, find christian girl whos going to bible college. >date her for 6 months. >she appears to have conservative views. >ends up cheating. >dump her on the spot. make new dating profile. >0 urge to talk to women and restart.
How do I recover from this? This was my first gf.
YES.
HEY! 🙁
yes but thats a good thing
No, thats rude
Depends on the women
thats why i said "USUALLY" you dumb nagger cunt
I can't speak for all of them but the one I used to date definitely was
>career woman
>depressed
>borderline alcoholic
>slew of abusive exes (according to her)
>except for the last one who was a basedboy and whom she never really loved
>incredibly insecure in her role as an emancipated woman
>therefore offended at the smallest things but incapable of clear communication
This guy looks like Billy Corbin.
bump
People who have their shit together and aren't fucked in the head are usually paired off by 24. After that, you're heading into territory of being single for a good reason (meaning you're fucked up or a shit human being).
By 30... what's the possible positive take? Extreme "late bloomer"? Nah, it's lifelong players, single moms, the mentally ill, etc...
I am 23 and don't really have a legit relationship... thing is I have my shit decently together and I'm not a bad person. What do I do? Just wait?
Focus on work. Get a nest egg. Make enough money to be rich and get an 18 year old who will do what you want. Easy as
yes.
Best you can get at that age is a divorced woman with no children who is at least half snae
yes, but it is a good thing in the sense that they are already conscious about it and don't try to hide it. Women younger also have several issues but they either can't solve them yet or can still hide it.
You can't apply such a blanket statement to "women over 30." What if she recently moved states and had to break up with her long term boyfriend? What if he died? What if she was stuck in an abusive relationship for the last 5 years and before that she was with another guy for the previous 7 years?
Being "single" over 30 isn't necessarily a red flag. Being a virgin over 30 is, unless you just woke up from a 15 year coma or something. The point is, people are unique. Their situations are unique. If a woman is still single at 30 because she's spend the last 12 years on the cock carousal and has never had a serious relationship then yeah, that's a giant red flag.
The number of partners isn't the red flag, it's how she decides to have sex. If she's had 5x long term partners by the time she's 33 that's a lot better than an 18yo girl who went to a party and got railed by 5 guys. One is a slut, the other one is unlucky or has other problems if she couldn't get 5x guys to commit to her for more than a couple years.
You're confusing "red flag" with "dealbreaker".
>. One is a slut, the other one is unlucky or has other problems if she couldn't get 5x guys to commit to her
Repeatedly having sex with guys who weren't committed to her is also slutty behavior. Her naivete isn't an excuse for recklessness.
>Repeatedly having sex with guys who weren't committed to her
Well she believed that they were since they were together for a few years. That's totally different than a slut who just lets 5x guys rail her at a party. Nobody waits until marriage these days and no guy should be getting married anyway the way the laws are set up. Being in a committed relationship with a guy makes having sex with him perfectly acceptable and not slutty.
>Well she believed that they were since they were together for a few years
That's my point. Her believing something doesn't make it reality. The reality is she WASN'T committed, which is why those guys were able to take her for granted and then ditch her. Her own behavior--delusions included--enabled that outcome.
>Nobody waits until marriage these days and no guy should be getting married anyway
Both nonsense that create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>Being in a committed relationship with a guy makes having sex with him perfectly acceptable and not slutty.
I agree, but a committed relationship is called marriage. Dating, where either partner can leave on a whim without consequence, is not commitment.
Commitment in the sense of wanting to be together is important, too, but it's not sufficient--it only works until it doesn't, at which point, the person who is still mentally invested in the relationship is burdened with all of the consequences. Like a woman who wants a lasting relationship but keeps getting strung along and dumped by guys who never commit.
Are single men above 30 damaged goods?
Everyone has their issues and flaws more mature women might be more aware of it. Young bitches can get away with anything.
Also this you cannot know why she is single. Same with men.
>Are single men above 30 damaged goods?
Yes
Because male culture makes them responsible parties.
I'm a woman who's over 30 and a virgin, thanks for the reassurance. Maybe I should just jump off of my balcony, kek
It's nothing to be ashamed of.
Virginity is at most a symptom of a problem, and it's frankly not a bad one. Mental illness of the kind that interferes with relationships typically translates to low impulse control and self-destructive behavior--like promiscuity. Someone who stays a virgin for moral reasons is commendable. Even for practical reasons, like not feeling ready to be in a relationship, it's respectable.
If you went out and lost your virginity for the sake of losing it, it wouldn't fix any issues you do have, and it would show additional issues in itself.
This
is bullshit and frankly a strange thing for them to say there’s absolutely nothing wrong with you. I would find you far more desirable as 30yo male who has been very successful with women and gets the ‘you’re in the top x% of uses!’ and has received free or discounted premium on dating apps.
I don't live in the USA but hey, a virgin in her 30s who goes on LULZ and is a bit on the spectrum would be ideal for me. Assuming she's not horrific looking. There's a man out there who's looking for you!
>be me, find christian girl whos going to bible college.
>date her for 6 months.
>she appears to have conservative views.
>ends up cheating.
>dump her on the spot. make new dating profile.
>0 urge to talk to women and restart.
How do I recover from this? This was my first gf.
Yes, usually.
No