are Audis really complete pieces of shit? I wanted to get one ever since I saw the Devilman OVA and I see them all the time for pretty cheap used but I am no mechanic
are Audis really complete pieces of shit?
are Audis really complete pieces of shit? I wanted to get one ever since I saw the Devilman OVA and I see them all the time for pretty cheap used but I am no mechanic
r8 is the only cool car they make
newer TT is also cool
yes
t.audi owner with warranty that is dumping it right as the warranty expires
There is a reason why Euro luxury cars are that cheap
Cool cars but too many gizmos
There's a reason they all end up in the hood after 10-15 years and then the scrapyard shortly after
Yes. The only Audi owners I know sold their Audis as soon as out of warranty or are paying out the ass for stupid ass repairs, like the guy who just put nearly $2,000 into his S4... having a shop replace parking brake actuators then fix a computer fault that was causing issues with the new ones...
>having a shop replace parking brake actuators then fix a computer fault that was causing issues with the new ones...
And that is exactly why you go to a dealership instead of going to "mechanics"
>thinking the dealership will have the answers
Lol
Lmao even
There are about 300 Audi dealerships in the US. About 40% of them are in Cali, NY, NJ, and PA. If you live anywhere other than the West Coast or the Northeast and especially if you don't live in a major metro, you might be lucky if you have *one* dealer within 100 miles of you.
Probably would have cost a lot more at a dealer. Dealer labor rates are like $150/hr+ these days.
>Dealer labor rates are like $150/hr+ these days.
>S4
That's the thing, most people saying audis are shit always refer to S or RS, or 15 years old A audi.
New models are alright, they fixed most issues with their Tsfi engines and now they are not worse than the competition. Aslo if you get the entry level audi like a3 then repairs are cheap since it shares a lot of parts with VW
>shares a lot of parts with VW
why don't I just get a vw then?
you can if you want
The current A3 has a bunch of physical controls, unlike the "capacitive EVERYTHING" mk8 Golf.
The parts are usually more robust on audi
>I see them all the time for pretty cheap
Yeah. There's a reason they're cheap.
They're good cars, they're just pieces of shit that'll cost you time and money keeping it outside of the first 3-4 years of owning out.
I had a 2004 A6 2.7T and it ended up bucking like a bronco. It was fun before that, however.
the interiors seem nice as shit
Some generations are but the VAG "soft touch" materials are extremely terrible
The mk4 Golf crayon smell will never leave my memory.
>VAJSXA
had an 02 with same drivetrain. on mine the water pump went out first, got that replaced and also did timing belt at the same time. A few months later my younger brother scraped the shit out of the transmission pan on a shitty street and he drove it for a few blocks back home leaking oil all the way. We got that fixed but the first gear was never the same. Eventually we swapped out the tranny and the engine exploded a week later lol. was a fun sleeper car at the time, but never again
depends which one.
my b8.5 s4 was pretty reliable. just the usual DI issues, and the b8's have dsg issues.
>work on cars for a living
>choose to never buy a euro car after seeing how trash they are
Yes. They're constant problem cars. I have a 2010 A4Q, hair over 100k miles. Even when it was in its prime it drank oil like a recovering alcoholic at an open bar. Had to replace the timing chain twice, the timing chain cover twice, serpentine belt thrice, oil sensor, fix constant idling issues, etc., etc., etc. and some of that was post warranty. Now my mechanic tells me I've got leaks in the main seal, vacuum pump, and more than likely not I'm also looking at piston ring failure and a dying turbo - so that's a full rebuild job which would be three or four times what the car would even be worth now if it was in top condition. I'll be lucky if I can find someone to take it for enough to recoup the new tires I put on it this year.
Add to this that unless you have a VW dealership with a service shop in your town, it's hard as fuck to find a shop that will even work on European cars anymore.
I don't have a lot of regrets in my life, but buying this car is one of them. I will NEVER buy another European car.
Girl I know is like $20k upside down on a Q7 TDI and it recently caught fire on the highway. Lmao. Its not old at all, its like a 2020 or something
>what is car insurance
The insurance didnt cover it so I have no clue what youre trying to say
Depends. Older audis are toxic. Morerecent ones (like 2015+) are better. The main problem with these cars is people don't maintain them properly.
Also stay away from the 2.0t they are putting in everything now. The 3.0 t is far more reliable. If you can afford a 4.0t car make sure you do the turbo oil screen recall asap.
>Also stay away from the 2.0t they are putting in everything now.
why? the recent versions of the EA888 are solid
If a car comes into my bay with an engine issue 90% of the time it's the 2.0T. Sure the oil consumption issues aren't as bad as they used to be but they still leak from the thermostat housings like clockwork
>If a car comes into my bay with an engine issue 90% of the time it's the 2.0T.
probably because it's by far the most common engine Audi/VW sells in the US
Lol here we go again... Inb4 theyre capable of almost 500hp on stock internals
>Timing chain wear - all of them
>Thermostat housing - all of them
>Waterpump - all of them
>Carbon fouling - all of them
>Clogged PCV - all of them
>Rear main vacuum leak - all of them
Could go on about oil comsumption, weak ignition coils, timing chain tensioners, vvt phasers etc...
Name a modern turbocharged engine that doesn't have any issues and is capable of 500hp on stock internals
AMG 4.0 V8?
BMW i6?
give me engine codes, nigga
Why? I don't know them off the top of my head and you can look them up as easily as I can.
N54, N55, S55, B58, S58, S63.
4.0t in the rs6/7 and lambo urus.
R35 vq38dett
Nsx jnc1
Probably closer to 400hp
2.0 ecotec (modded)
K20 type r (modded)
What would a rear main vacuum leak look like or affect?
My tsi is leaking oil all through the boost system. Seems like the head pressure is out of whack (too high). I replaced the PCV and checked the turbo waste care but just keep getting underboost code, low all in the intercooler. Doesn't even seem like turbo is running at all, like limp mode. Trying to check if the intercooler is cracked or something
Oil all in the intercooler*
If you’re getting constant underboost warnings the turbo is probably fucked. Easiest way to check is try flooring it. If the turbo’s boned the check engine will come on every time you try and get full acceleration.
Rear main is going to be noticeable leakage while it’s under pressure and you’ll usually get noticeable staining under the car when you park after a drive, but little or no burning smell or smoke. You’ll be using about a quart every 300-400 miles or so. If it’s more than that you might be looking at failures with the piston rings.
If you’ve got a 2.0T the three biggest failure points are the timing chain the turbo and the pistons and I’d guess about 75% of the Audis I’ve seen suffer problems with all three by the time they hit 80-120K
How did you check the waste gate? Honestly just sounds like your turbo is toast. See if there is any play on the impeller. If there is, then no surprise theres oil in the boost system, but again, turbo is probably toast.
The rear main vacuum leak will cause a lean condition and your car will run rough at idle. If its a big enough leak itll run rough at most rpms. This one is a bit harder to pinpoint since the rear main isnt accessible without separating the engine and transmission. Its a pretty common issue on vw ea888 so if you cant find vacuum leaks in the exterior engine, rear main is a reasonable guess. If you have a smoke machine youll see the smoke come out from between the engine and transmission
I actually had the turbo replaced, didn't help. I can slightly check the linkage for the waste gate under the car by moving it and seeing if it's loose or seized. I have the old turbo out and the waste gate was fine there too. I also ran idle and played with the oil cap and it's running a noticable but slight vacuum there (which is good?) so I was wrong about too high pressure. Again I already replaced the pcv which is known to be troublesome
Something made the car rough as shit, consume tons of oil (it doesn't leak while sitting), and give me no power. I don't know how much of this is connected.
It was throwing lean codes but I replaced the sparks (they were caked up bad) and it hasn't thrown a lean code again yet.
I've heard of the rear main seal going out and doesn't seem like something I can check at home easily.
But also they rolled my car off the alignment rack not too long ago (dumbass didn't pull parking brake)so I'm wondering if just the intercooler is cracked from that; but I also don't know why it's full of table spoons of oil all the time or how it's getting into the boost system. I'm in the process of pulling the radiator off to get to the intercooler
Sorry for wall of text of this fucking bullshit
Yeah right. The old "people don't maintain them" shit. You actually mean maintain them by putting in new parts every week.
>The main problem with these cars is people don't maintain them properly.
That's the main problem with most cars in existence. Relatively few are taken care of properly.
Yes, take it from an Audi owner with several Audi owning friends.
My buddy had a 2013 Audi A3 with the 2.0L turbo. At around 45k miles, the engine blew. It was towed to the stealership and I went with him.
We arrived there and guess what we saw... 2 other near-new Audi's on lifts with their engines out. lol.
My parents have a 2015 Q5 and that thing burns oil like a mofo too now at only 85k miles. Now it's throwing a CEL as well.
Oh and my friend's sister with a VW that has the same 2.0L engine blew it at 120k miles.
These cars are a waste of money and time. They're for people who don't know any better or idiots who want to flex but don't actually have the money.
>has an audi
>everyone else he knows including his own family members conviently "own an audi"
>conviently each of those audis also have a severe problem
Sounds like a larp constructed by a toyota/hyundai driver tbh
I live in Seattle my guy, every third fuckhead drives one here
Audi tech here, ask me anything
if I bought a used one what do I look for
A BMW.
Depends on how old you're looking. Anything pre 2015 my knowledge is very limited. But depending on the motor, coolant leaks are easily the most common big repair. Before anything else check the coolant level and make sure it's good, and shine a light on the air dam under the engine. If it's wet be prepared for a thermostat housing and water pump job. The 4cylinders are particularly bad with leaking coolant. I've seen one leaking at as low as 47k miles. The next big thing is oil changes. These engines have issues with sludge if the oil isn't changed religiously. This isn't an Audi specific thing though as all turbo engines have these kinds of issues. Next is suspension bushings. We have multi link front and rear suspension with very large bushings. They soak up bumps very well but when they tear they creak like a MF and get all sloppy. The big one is the front suspension rear guide link bushing. Its huge and can get a lot of slop when the bushing tears. It really depends as I've seen some with really nice bushings even at 150k and some clapped out needing R&R at 100k but at that point I wouldn't be considering an Audi. If you really want one try getting something like a CPO we take care of any issues or imminent maintenance that these cars have before putting them out on the lot. These cars can get up to 100k without major issues pretty easily despite the memes and their interiors stay surprisingly nice as the people who own audis tend to take much better care of their cars than say a Honda or Chevy owner
A backup car.
A total service history. Complete and timely
A refund.
Tools, and a friend to take you to the autozone
What do you drive?
A heavily used civic
Nice
They're absolute fucking maintenance whores, and have a bunch of utterly fucktarded engineering decisions that makes working on them next to impossible. And that's on the good models.
The bad ones WILL smack you with a $10k repair bill on a $6k car out of fucking nowhere.
Why do Americans have trouble understanding/working on German cars? they're easy to work on once you understand what you're doing.
I don't know. Granted there's a lot more specialized tools but it's not like it's impossible to work on. Hell I've worked on Ford's harder than most audis I've worked on
Probably the repair bills scaring away poors rather than the actual engineering, the autstic german engineering is usually used as a cope for not being able to afford the maintenance/repair
>AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS
Rent fucking free.
Oh, am I wrong?
I've owned half a dozen+ BMWs and Mercedes and I wouldn't dare touch an Audi.
Stupid ass front-heavy cars that require you to pull off the entire front end to work on anything, and with consumable timing chains that cause catastrophic engine failure
I have multiple BMWs and my friend has a newer 911, his family owns a few mid 2000s and 2010s Mercedes Benzes. I'll never understand Audi. Not as luxurious as Mercedes, not as sporty BMW or nearly as cool. And all their cars look boring as fuck.
Another friend of mine just got a Golf R even though I and a mutual friend were telling him to get a 911 or an M3. He said he isn't enough of a "car guy" to maintain a Porsche/BMW. Kek. Those are your VAG buyers.
Porsche is VAG too
How does one differentiate the faggy VAG offerings (VW and Audi) with the good ones?
Oh yeah golf r buddy had an A4 before that. Don't know if he got rid of it for the R but probably. I suppose that car was at least somewhat reliable if he's stixking with that gay company. I remember him telling me it burned oil very early on but haven't brought up that car recently
there's like one wrenchlet on here that keeps posting that timing chain picture in every audi thread he sees, and the borg pic in every bmw thread. some other anons that post some 70 iq jetta meme. and then a few poor basement dwellers that occasionally post mashallah my brother or some other turkpost garbage as a cope for how poor they are. once you learn to ignore them, you'll see LULZ doesn't mind audis or other german cars and certainly isn't scared to work on, own, drive, and race them.
I'm none of those posters and think Audis are gay as shit except the R8. Everyone knows muslims drive Camaros. Not sure why those poor posters only mention "Turks."
>as a cope for how poor they are
My Audi was $1600...
I like it, but the rust problem is seriously bad. Front fenders, both sides rusted to shit; back fenders, less but still rusted; doors, one on each side.
While I think Audi is super fucking overrated by the average normaltard, I also think they're kinda too easily written off as "nothing but rebadged VWs for suckers" in car enthusiast circles. They've made some really cool stuff, besides the obvious Quattro.
Building a Golf on MAXIMUM ROIDS is cool. Stuffing a (slightly cost-cut variant of a) Lamborghini V10 into your big family sedan/wagon is cool. Slapping two turbos on it for shits and giggles is even better. The 4.2 is one of the nicest sounding V8s of all time, and even Jeremy Clarkson considers it one of his favorite engines, period. The 2.7TT is everything people love about the 1.8T, but +50%.
But I'm also aware of their flaws, and the flaws of the people that buy them. Not every engine is a chain-driven 4.2 40V but when something goes wrong it's often difficult and expensive, and while the people that drive them new don't care because they just get it fixed under warranty, the next owner is usually some clueless clout chasing fuck who has no idea how to maintain one and will ditch it onto some poor SOB once it inevitably develops some major issue.
Lease one. Buy one new, or well-maintained, low-mileage, single-owner CPO, and you'll have a great time. Anything beyond that is a crapshoot.
Mashallah, my brother
Those autistic sausage-eating homosexuals left a fucking millimeter of clearance between the timing chain cover and the fucking engine block... which means the only way to get at that part of the engine in most models is to pull the engine or pull off the front of the car.
Putting in a new timing chain cover and gasket is a pretty cheap and quick job compared to doing a complete replacement of the timing chain and tensioner... once you have access to the engine. But both jobs end up having nearly the same labor costs because 95% of the fucking work is getting access to the engine because you have to take apart the front of the goddamned car.
And let's not even get started on the autism of putting the car's battery in the fucking trunk of the car UNDER the spare wheel UNDER the tire kit UNDER the floor of the boot. Cold winter, you need a jump one morning, most cars you just pop the hood and pull up alongside someone. Audi - you sit there in the fucking freezing cold disassembling the rear of your fucking car.
Or the retarded fucking assembly for the sparks. What fucking genius at Audi thought that making that out of wafer thin hard plastic was a good idea? I could replace the plugs on my old 91 Mitsu in 15 minutes. The first time I replaced the plugs on the Audi it took an hour and a half and I cracked half the plastic clips.
>No, man, you just, like, don't get it.
Working on my car used to be a joy. I could get parts anywhere for cheap, there wasn't any small repair or maintenance job I couldn't get done on a Saturday morning, and if there was ever a more serious issue, I could go to any shop in town and get the repairs turned around in a day or two for no more than a few hundred bucks.
Working on an Audi on your own is basically a no-go unless you have a fully-stocked auto shop in your garage. Finding parts is a pain, replacements and repairs are a nightmare, and shit constantly breaks down even if you're keeping up on maintenance.
Sounds like a skill issue haha
>the only way to get at that part of the engine in most models is to pull the engine or pull off the front of the car.
All their V engines have the chains on the gearbox side, so you're dropping the engine, period.
>Working on an Audi on your own is basically a no-go
i've always worked on mine myself, maybe you should learn how to wrench. it's pretty rewarding and will save you a lot of money.
Audis are gay though. Why would anyone waste their time on that garbage? Unless it's an R8.
>Audis are gay though. Why would anyone waste their time on that garbage?
BMW and MB went full retard in the design department in the last few years, Audi still makes a decent number of traditional looking cars
I hate the direction that BMW has gone after 2020, and never really liked Mercedes. But Audis are just so fucking boring looking. Plus Audisteer. Ugh. They're just such mom cars to me. The German Volvo if you will.
ok well i shouldn't say i never liked mercedes. they have some cool stuff but it's usually so fucking ugly and their interiors are so fucking gaudy now. i like benzes from the 80s and 90s just fine. and i appreciate AMG, but goddamn why do they have to look like that?
Bmw started rotating their engines 180° audi style as well. Timing components are now sandwiched against the transmission. Lets hope they beefed up the vanos on those models
>Plus Audisteer. Ugh. They're just such mom cars to me. The German Volvo if you will.
The newest cars have some weird bell housing design that pushes the engine back a little further without changing the quattro set up. Weight distribution is around 55/45 which is similar to a lot of FR cars like the Mustang and Z. If you add a stiffer rear sway bar and adjustable control arms for more front camber you won't be understeering anymore.
As to the way they look, personally I like the current understated design of the A4/A5/A6, you just need to get a color like blue, red or metallic gray/silver instead of white, black or (worst of all) matte primer gray
Front/rear weight balance doesn't tell you everything, where that weight is located relative to the axles makes a massive difference. Audis have a lot of weight outside the axles, which makes them resist changes in rotation relatively heavily.
Newer cars don't really do it for me. My newest car is 9 years old. Anything with a tablet and no buttons for radio and hvac control is out. I do want to own a B/S58 car at some point however.
Not sure what it is about how Audis look that turns me off. I just see them as very sterile and tame, minus the R8 of course.
>the only way to get at that part of the engine in most models is to pull the engine or pull off the front of the car
All. The word you're looking for is all. There isn't a single modern Audi engine you can do any work on without doing one or the other.
Like
said, all the Vs have to be pulled, and as far as I'm aware all the 4-cyls since like the mid 00s/early 10s require taking off the front. I think you'd probably have to go back at least 30 years to find an Audi you could work on without having to pull the engine or front for every repair.
>Audi - you sit there in the fucking freezing cold disassembling the rear of your fucking car.
Are you genuinely retarded. They have terminals under the hood to hood up jumper cables to
nta - but the under-hood terminals for the 2.0 tfsi are fucking retarded. they're inside a tiny cubby underneath a tiny cover in the dead middle of the front windshield cowl. you need the dexterity of a safe cracker to pop it open without dislodging the whole cowl and nerves of steel to go fiddling around trying to hook up the leads to a pair of terminals you can barely reach or see like it's a game of operation.
What year, model. Every one I've worked on has the ground on the firewall and the positive on a junction box under the hood. And if you can't pop the little covers on the cowl then you are a wrenchlet of the highest degree
Sprockets and chains wear and lengthen over time if they don't slip. The problem is German engines are twin banks with chains. They wear out faster than OHV and single bank OHC. When it's time to change them it's a lot of work. Some might have to take the whole valve train cover off, and that included taking the intake off. Sometimes the only way to access it is to remove the radiator and front end because the engine can't drop out. But that's not the worst of your problems because you aren't the one wasting time doing that and be paying for somebody else's time to fix it. A chain timed car will sound noticeably different when it needs to have the timing chain, serviced because when the chain stretches and sprockets grind down, the valves retard and the engine sounds rougher. By then the decision is to ether junk it till it dies or sell it for somebody else's problems. That is if the oil don't get mixed by the coolant due to an internal design decision.
The only German cars older than ten years and still on the road are the ones with engines that are fixable.
Germans can't make twin banks, but they can make single banks.
>triple-square camshaft gear bolts
FUCKING WHYYYYYYYYYYY
Torque spec is probably like 8ftlb
VW loves using triple-square for anything the "average customer" is not supposed to touch, and torx for everything else.
You want to buy a particular car because you saw it in a manga? Do I have that right?
I'm struggling with the concept
Never heard of an AE86?
>Never heard of an AE86?
It's a Toyota. Your point?
weebs love cars they see in comic books and cartoons. not much else to understand
Ah. So it's not about how they go, the handling, the features or the build quality?
exactly, otherwise they wouldn't care about them so much, they're pretty shit in all departments
or the looks. yeah. i don't understand it either.
Audis are just overpriced Volkswagens and themselves are just overpriced Skodas.
And they are even less reliable than a Volks! Germany have fallen in that matter...
>Germany have fallen in that matter
But VWs have always been gay as fuck.
My experience with them has been fairly good. I don't have an insanely equipped garage and I only use basic hand tools, but I've had no real issues working on any of mine. I've had 2 C5 A6s with the 4.2, a C6 S6 and a D3 S8 with the 5.2, and a C6 A6 Avant with the 3.0T.
Parts are fairly expensive all around, but RockAuto has had nearly every part I've needed. Most repairs are simple enough, but will take longer to complete than they would on a similar American/Japanese car. The most annoying thing about them in my experience has been that all of the torx bolts in the engine bay strip very easily, even if you're extremely careful when removing them.
Best advice I can give is only buy a used one if you'll be the 2nd owner, 3rd might be taking too big of a risk.
Tip for the torx or any bolt really...
Give it a few solid whacks to the head with a hammer if possible. Try to hit straight down toward the threads and not laterally unless you dont have a choice. The vibration/impact shocks any potential corrosion. It can be a real life saver if youre in salty/rusty regions.
Also going back and forth incrementally while spraying penetrant into the threads helps a lot. If you have access to the rear of the threads spray that down as well.
Ive seen too many people just cranking away at clearly seized bolts that couldve been saved with some patience and technique
It's usually the bolts on the valve covers/intake plenum/etc. that I run into issues with. I think it mainly comes down to the material coupled with heat cycles, so I've been ordering replacements ahead of time now. But I'll try the hammer next time to see if it makes my life easier. Thanks anon
Now that you mention valve covers and plenums, if its a recessed bolt, you can always whack the socket/extension. Good luck bro
Yes they’re utter garbage.
In fact, they’re so over engineered, needlessly complicated and unreliable that they’ve waged a damage control marketing campaign vilifying those who spread this message. Germans a quite susceptible to propaganda unfortunately.
A friend of mine was traumatized by one and is now an honorary buss rider.
Turbo kept breaking all the damn time, mere weeks after having it repaired by "the official audi mechanics" because only they can and are allowed to fiddle with it. He spent thousands on it for nothing because even when he got rid of it the turbo was STILL fucking fucked.
I can see why Americans stick to Japanese and their own native brands, they are literally too stupid to own a car from anywhere else because the manufacturers never catered and adopted to deal with the American's proud stupidity
What did he mean by this?
Brand loyalty cope. They’re like American Boomers that we’re still buying GM sedans despite them not making a decent car in decades because they vaguely remember that Cadillacs were nice 50 years ago. Audifags vaguely remember that Audi used to make good, smart, reliable cars and refuse to accept that they don’t anymore.
>This brand can’t possibly be bad! 95% of consumers are just using it wrong!
That is butthurt.He is angry at the japs because they have shown foreign brands can succeed in the american market if their products aren't shit.
Before the 80s he could have coped and said " americans are too patriotic " to explain VAG failures in America,but Toyota shattered this delusion.
Why aren't Audis ever worth anything?
Outside of Horchs and 1980 Quattro/Sport Quattros, they don't pull big numbers at auction.
the OG sport quattro is the only Audi that has the trinity of racing pedigree / rarity / popularity
other models like the Ur-S6 or 90 Quattro have some touring car heritage but they aren't rare or well known enough to get serious investors
>are Audis really complete pieces of shit?
Why would they be? Audis are halal.
I love the older audi wagons
older audis are fine, it's just in the last 20 years or so that they've gone crap
>older audis are fine
You know how you don't see old audis much, even at big open car shows like cars and coffee where there is all kinds of crap from the 80s and 90s? Yeah, that's because Audis have always been problematic cars. They've had this reputation since the 2000s when the cars from the 80s were already hitting junkyards and those from the 90s were nickel and diming people into irrelevancy. I'm old enough to remember that, having got my first car in ~2006.
Audis are fucking trash.
>Audi considers oil consumption of one (1) quart per 1,200 miles to be acceptable.
Retard here, what's the problem with this? Just top off your oil every so often.
that much oil consumption to be considered normal in a new car is fucking absurd.
Ok and? Oil is cheap.
Mine was going through a quart every 100-200 miles by the time I put it down. Fucking ridiculous. And of course the oil sensor was fucked by that point and would only come on if I was 2-3 low, which was fucking the engine. Put a manual dip on (who the fuck that it was a good idea to remove the single most reliable and foolproof diagnostic in a car and replace it with a fucking expensive and problem prone sensor buried in the engine’s guts?) but by then the damage was done.
this one right? what audi is it supposed to be?
Audi 80 b3, I think.
Yeah that's the one I think it's probably an 86 something or another the anime is from 87. I have no idea why it got so stuck in my head and seemed so cool.
I found an 86 doing an image search that looks very similar.
Yeah, looks like a B3 80. A slightly higher trim one with foglights.
I'd personally look for a 90, that's the "premium" trim with different body-color bumpers and an I5 instead of an I4.
They break down fast, the 4wd system especially. As shit quality as volkswagen but the overpower and 4wd makes them unreliable
The "break down" stuff is just cope cause the Audi is usually quicker than whatever they drive
Quicker to break down
Maybe if you changed your AWD clutch fluid every 3 years instead of never it won't breakdown
It depends on the year and engine, and if you aren't retarded. For example, some of the older models came with dual clutch transmissions which require service every 35 to 40,000, mi. lots of people did not do this service and if they didn't do this service, be prepared for the transmission to shit out.
Any 2.0T made before 2013 is a nightmare never buy.
2.0T made 2013+ is one of the most reliable engines ever made.
3.0T (S4/S5) 2019+ Incredibly reliable and absolute monster engine. 3.0 Supercharged (prior to 2016) is also a great engine. but comes with the dual clutch transmissions.
Avoid the 4.2 V8.
There's not enough information about the 2.9 twin turbo.
Bruh... No ea888 1.8t or 2.0t from vw are safe. Go through this thread and research the claims
2008 -2012 ish was the EA888 Gen 2. They switched to the gen 3 in 2013. gen 2 was horrible. I actually got around 4 grand from owning one in class action lawsuits.
Among other items, updated timing tensioner and guides, oil filter screen update, new design on control rings, better gasket on rear panel of vacuum pump, and updated rear main seal.
gen 3 EA888 2013+ model years is bullet proof and better designed for power output. You can get 280 without even updating the catalytic converter which is insane.
Were aware that changes were made through the different gens with some improvements, but a lot of the core problems
still remain even with proper maintenance.
Sure you can make good power gains with simple mods but the engine has achilles heels that are more mileage based rather than stress based
>2.0T made before 2013 is a nightmare never buy.
>2.0T made 2013+ is one of the most reliable engines ever made.
what changed lol?
what about entry level engine, 1.5 tfsi with 48 volt mild hybrid
I don't know a lot about kids toys sorry
>are Audis really complete pieces of shit?
yes
my buddy owns an independent Audi repair shop with like 10 mechanics working for him. he books like 3 months out, so yes, they are giant pieces of shit.
After watching the savagegeese video on the A5 I kind of want one of these tbh
>tried and true EA888 + 7 speed DSG
>traditional styling unlike BMW & Mercedes
>sporty but comfortable suspension
>nice interior with mostly physical controls
>has the tech features you actually want (adaptive cruise, android auto)
>decent aftermarket because of commonality with S4 & S5/RS5
>good brakes
>not insanely heavy
>back seat is actually usable
and perhaps most importantly
>no dealer mark up bullshit, just walk in and order the damn thing
I can't get over how many Audis I see selling used you would swear they were the best selling car in the world but I have never known anyone personally who had one
Tells you more about just how many people are trying to get rid of them. Why would that be?
I think they are like Gremlins someone is getting them wet
Have a 2013 A4. Gave me trouble the first couple years I had it (nearly 5-4k in repairs). Been good to me for 2 years. Just need to get the AC fixed. Should I attempt to sell it now before it gets worse? At 128k miles
Dangerously close to 150k
Audis are just VWs which are also bad. They share all the same parts
vws are gay as fuck
Audi 80 is perhaps the most reliable car in history.
I had an a4 b8 with 320 000 km.
No smoke from engine, no oil alcoholism.
Then and now some minor problems, it was hard abused.
German cars are overengineered, so you have to overservice them, mantainging them acording to book. Those are cars dependent on specialized dealers, not some Joe mechanic.