It’s totally lucid dreaming. Tested it myself, not that many posters will believe what another poster says.
You can’t float around and see things. Your subconscious will fairly accurately fill a lot of things in but if you don’t know something you don’t know it. You can’t spy on anyone with this.
Still fun though.
Bro I can say from just the brief experiences that I've had, it was enough to confirm that it is most definitely not lucid dreaming. What makes you beliueve yourself to be such an authority on this matter? I've never had lucid dreams be so vivid, I woke up out of body in my own room once, and everything was in place as it was, right before I woke up in the physical. To brush it all off as "lucid dreaming" is to undermine millions of peoples experiences and an established tradition dating back thousands of years. Don't give your own egoic perspective so much credit
>Don't give your own egoic perspective so much credit
But you’ve just done that. I say it’s lucid dreaming. You say it isn’t. What makes you an authority? Nothing beyond your post. It’s you that is being arrogant here. I don’t mind discussing but it’d you that is trying to shut things down. Fear probably.
Of course your room will look convincing. You know it well. But it’s still a lucid dream > millions of peoples experiences and an established tradition dating back thousands of years
They’re no established tradition dating back thousands of years. The overall out of body feeling is something common to humans so it’s been reported on many times. But there is very little agreement on what is going on.
You act like the universe is just something that only the individual decides completely on it'sw nature and existence lol. Like one's own consciousness is the complete and total authority. I never said that my own ego is the authority, I'm stating that the ancient traditions, specifically the vedic tradition reflects our reality including that of astral projection the closest. Stop being so narcissistic with this idea that nothing outside of your personal experience is valid. But yeah keep accusing me of "shutting things down", this discourse is almost as shitty as Reddit.
>You can’t float around and see things.
This. I always thought I would be able to see as clearly as with my physical eyes, but it turns out it's just your mind's eye. Your imagination basically. You can see some things that are fairly accurate, but not entirely.
Nothing about astral projection is new age. Yes, there are many new age takes on it and themes, but the tradition dates back to the egyptians as well as the upanishads, and early taoist literature. Astral travel has been a prominent and alive aspect to human existence since our earliest beginnings. The reason there is so much similarity with lucid dreaming techniques, is because many argue that lucid dreaming is astral projecting but into your own subconscious realms. The more conscious you become, the more likely you will be able to shift into the objective astral planes which permeate our existence. Hope this helps to clear some things up.
The argument that you are either not “ascending to the correct plane” or not “in the real time zone” (or some other cope) is weak.
You aren’t clearing anything up. You are adding an obstacle to cover the fact it’s a dream.
That god is the supreme ruler of all things and if you get on his good side you will have a great time, otherwise demons and mankind are going to fuck with you and destroy all your hope and optimism.
If you are a little girl dont do it, its for adults 25+. It will be pedoshit if you wil do that and there are plenty astral pedophiles in the asstrall
so freud basically?
Sort off, every LULZners and other occultist go there for "illusory porn". Its like enhanced vr stuff
carl jung?
No just, succ general an shiet
scientific freud
It's real, and you shouldn't do it.
Demons can also give you false visions, so yeah. Just don't do it.
So, don't do it, or sh*t will happen?
It's basically just lucid dreaming?
It’s totally lucid dreaming. Tested it myself, not that many posters will believe what another poster says.
You can’t float around and see things. Your subconscious will fairly accurately fill a lot of things in but if you don’t know something you don’t know it. You can’t spy on anyone with this.
Still fun though.
Bro I can say from just the brief experiences that I've had, it was enough to confirm that it is most definitely not lucid dreaming. What makes you beliueve yourself to be such an authority on this matter? I've never had lucid dreams be so vivid, I woke up out of body in my own room once, and everything was in place as it was, right before I woke up in the physical. To brush it all off as "lucid dreaming" is to undermine millions of peoples experiences and an established tradition dating back thousands of years. Don't give your own egoic perspective so much credit
>Don't give your own egoic perspective so much credit
But you’ve just done that. I say it’s lucid dreaming. You say it isn’t. What makes you an authority? Nothing beyond your post. It’s you that is being arrogant here. I don’t mind discussing but it’d you that is trying to shut things down. Fear probably.
Of course your room will look convincing. You know it well. But it’s still a lucid dream
> millions of peoples experiences and an established tradition dating back thousands of years
They’re no established tradition dating back thousands of years. The overall out of body feeling is something common to humans so it’s been reported on many times. But there is very little agreement on what is going on.
You act like the universe is just something that only the individual decides completely on it'sw nature and existence lol. Like one's own consciousness is the complete and total authority. I never said that my own ego is the authority, I'm stating that the ancient traditions, specifically the vedic tradition reflects our reality including that of astral projection the closest. Stop being so narcissistic with this idea that nothing outside of your personal experience is valid. But yeah keep accusing me of "shutting things down", this discourse is almost as shitty as Reddit.
>You can’t float around and see things.
This. I always thought I would be able to see as clearly as with my physical eyes, but it turns out it's just your mind's eye. Your imagination basically. You can see some things that are fairly accurate, but not entirely.
the ancient greeks had fun burying themselves up to the neck in mud (or sand) to experience what it will be like after they are dead
meditate on that
IHAVE ASCENDED TO THE NEXT LEVEL
It’s a real thing
As in its lucid dreaming. Which is real.
The technique to Astral and the technique to Lucid are too similar, it is uncanny.
I think it is just a new age themed Lucid Dreaming.
Nothing about astral projection is new age. Yes, there are many new age takes on it and themes, but the tradition dates back to the egyptians as well as the upanishads, and early taoist literature. Astral travel has been a prominent and alive aspect to human existence since our earliest beginnings. The reason there is so much similarity with lucid dreaming techniques, is because many argue that lucid dreaming is astral projecting but into your own subconscious realms. The more conscious you become, the more likely you will be able to shift into the objective astral planes which permeate our existence. Hope this helps to clear some things up.
The argument that you are either not “ascending to the correct plane” or not “in the real time zone” (or some other cope) is weak.
You aren’t clearing anything up. You are adding an obstacle to cover the fact it’s a dream.
>You are adding an obstacle to cover the fact it’s a dream.
>No source
>No argument
But I'm the weak one who's coping. lol
tons of midwits itt.
>doesn't know I already read that
>baby's first /x/ book
That god is the supreme ruler of all things and if you get on his good side you will have a great time, otherwise demons and mankind are going to fuck with you and destroy all your hope and optimism.