Reading classics is comfy and lazy. You don't have to think for yourself; you have a wall of critical and academic acclaim to shelter behind, so never have to risk your own opinions being attacked. You never have to develop your own faculties
You don't have to love it just because it's a classic. Master and Margarita, for example, is trash even tho it's a classic. Ulysses is another example.
I’ve been to therapy for years. Lucky it was free because I’m poor. At this point, i just talk to a therapist about hobbies and current events. Therapy can’t fix child abuse.
>At this point, i just talk to a therapist about hobbies and current events. Therapy can’t fix child abuse.
Sounds to me like you're doing therapy wrong. It's not meant to fix it: you're meant to fix it. The Therapist is meant to help you find strategies to fix it, and if you're not making progress is either meant to point that out to you or help you diagnose why that might be so you can reformulate strategies.
>Why doesn’t any therapist I see do that then?
Probably because you haven't asked them. Here's what I'd do if I started with a therapist tomorrow, I'd say: "I am having a problem with X and I'd like to fix that". I'd try to isolate a specific habit that I think is responsible for a lot of problems and ask them what they think I should do to get a handle on it. > We just talk and I gain some new insights, but these insights don’t change anything.
Yeah because insights are just information. Information needs to be acted upon, and if they are good insights they should allow you to make better decisions about negative habits or cycles. They inform how you should make better decisions so that you can piece by piece instill healthier and better habits and life live more effectively.
That's why I say that you have to fix it. And that comes in changing the kinds of decisions and actions that you take, changing the way you react to things etc. etc.
I assumed they would lead the session after I tell them the overarching problem. A lot of therapists I’ve seen throw out empty platitudes as if that’ll accomplish anything.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I assumed they would lead the session after I tell them the overarching problem.
Well you assumed wrong: here's the first thing that you're gonna fix. In your next session you're going to ask your therapist about a specific negative behavior or problem you have and if they can formulate a strategy so you can fix it. >A lot of therapists I’ve seen throw out empty platitudes as if that’ll accomplish anything.
Because you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Therapists deal with all sorts of vulnerable and mentally ill people, people who can get triggered or act out if they say the wrong thing. Unless you breach that subject with the them, unless you make it clear that you want to do something about it, they will continue to throw empty platitudes at you, because if they say "okay, enoughs enough" they don't know what you might do. But chances are, they know you won't take it well.
Also, yes, therapists are people and like all people the norms of a relationship are defined by how each person responds to one another. And you know, they are human: they don't want to make you upset if they can avoid it.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ok. I wish a therapist had told me this. I started therapy when I was young, so the therapist would lead it. As an adult, I continued to think that therapists would lead.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
That makes absolute sense. It's one of these "better late than never things".
The hard part is narrowing down just one thing to focus on fixing first, if it's too big then it'll be impossible to fix, too small and it'll be too easy and not offer enough improvement.
Anyway, wishing you the best of luck anon. >I continued to think that therapists would lead.
You'll be surprised how often in life you're allowed if not required to lead. That's what my first girlfriend taught me.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
How do you initiate the sex with the womens?
Cute classmate throws herself at me, but when I try to kiss her or touch her she gets angry and pushes me away.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Cute classmate throws herself at me, but when I try to kiss her or touch her she gets angry and pushes me away.
What do you mean she's throwing herself at you? Sounds like you need to give her the cold shoulder.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Let’s say we are waiting for teacher, and I’m sitting in the couch we got a few couches in class even though there are other empty ones she comes and sits on my lap, or super close to me.
She also plays with her legs on my legs.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's just coyness. They have to pretend not to like it in the beginning. Just be a bit more forceful and 'laughingly' not take no for an answer. Of course this could lead to attention seeking false accusations, but that's the risk you run when interacting with the meme gender.
You gotta be extremely honest to them, so they can diagnose properly.
You might have to start by building coping mechanisms at first, check out the Bible, I’m not religious.
I don’t say join. I said check the Bible out, I meant it as a tool for allegories and so you can project yourself to a story almost every one knows. You’ll be able to express to your therapist better.
Also I decided to watch Jpeterson Bible series right now, and check out this video, im literally watching it right now!!! Why does the universe do this
But check minute 40:00 on
I do enjoy them, but the emotional impact of trashier art that panders to my particular foibles is often preferred. I think the fact is that generally, as Neech said, art that has a direct relevance to ourselves possesses infinitely greater impact than anything else.
I haven't masturbated for 5 days because of the feels some book gave me.
Yeah current trash is sometimes preferable to the great works. I gave up
on The Count of Monte Cristo because it’s tedious. I was considering reading Anna Karenina, but I heard it’s just about people cheating on each other. Maybe A Hundred Years of Solitude would be a better read.
You are depressed, don't think about it too much.
Start taking warm showers every day, start exercising throughout the day, even if it’s only 1 push-up, even if it seems silly, just do it.
You’ll begin to feel a little better, try to eat and sleep at the same time every day. Start exercising a little more(push yourself to do an extra set, or even just one rep).
Write out a routine for yourself, and remember that even though you have it written, life comes and you have to work around it.
If there are toxic people around you, begin to separate yourself from them.
Get a hobby, try many different things, (collect something, make origami, anything. It does not have to cost money)
Start reading the classics, and you will begin to see why they are classic.
that's because it's advice for normies who are coming down with a case of the Seasonal Affective DiSorder and that not all depression can be treated the same blanket way (so STFU no-to-big-pharma fags, I'm on your side)
Kek, I never said don’t medicate. You are assuming something based on one thing I wrote, which happened to be what I did to get out of depression. It may not work for everybody,
Yes, that describesLULZ to a T.
Reading classics is comfy and lazy. You don't have to think for yourself; you have a wall of critical and academic acclaim to shelter behind, so never have to risk your own opinions being attacked. You never have to develop your own faculties
You don't have to love it just because it's a classic. Master and Margarita, for example, is trash even tho it's a classic. Ulysses is another example.
Not really, no. You should probably go to therapy.
I’ve been to therapy for years. Lucky it was free because I’m poor. At this point, i just talk to a therapist about hobbies and current events. Therapy can’t fix child abuse.
>At this point, i just talk to a therapist about hobbies and current events. Therapy can’t fix child abuse.
Sounds to me like you're doing therapy wrong. It's not meant to fix it: you're meant to fix it. The Therapist is meant to help you find strategies to fix it, and if you're not making progress is either meant to point that out to you or help you diagnose why that might be so you can reformulate strategies.
Why doesn’t any therapist I see do that then? We just talk and I gain some new insights, but these insights don’t change anything.
>Why doesn’t any therapist I see do that then?
Probably because you haven't asked them. Here's what I'd do if I started with a therapist tomorrow, I'd say: "I am having a problem with X and I'd like to fix that". I'd try to isolate a specific habit that I think is responsible for a lot of problems and ask them what they think I should do to get a handle on it.
> We just talk and I gain some new insights, but these insights don’t change anything.
Yeah because insights are just information. Information needs to be acted upon, and if they are good insights they should allow you to make better decisions about negative habits or cycles. They inform how you should make better decisions so that you can piece by piece instill healthier and better habits and life live more effectively.
That's why I say that you have to fix it. And that comes in changing the kinds of decisions and actions that you take, changing the way you react to things etc. etc.
I assumed they would lead the session after I tell them the overarching problem. A lot of therapists I’ve seen throw out empty platitudes as if that’ll accomplish anything.
>I assumed they would lead the session after I tell them the overarching problem.
Well you assumed wrong: here's the first thing that you're gonna fix. In your next session you're going to ask your therapist about a specific negative behavior or problem you have and if they can formulate a strategy so you can fix it.
>A lot of therapists I’ve seen throw out empty platitudes as if that’ll accomplish anything.
Because you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Therapists deal with all sorts of vulnerable and mentally ill people, people who can get triggered or act out if they say the wrong thing. Unless you breach that subject with the them, unless you make it clear that you want to do something about it, they will continue to throw empty platitudes at you, because if they say "okay, enoughs enough" they don't know what you might do. But chances are, they know you won't take it well.
Also, yes, therapists are people and like all people the norms of a relationship are defined by how each person responds to one another. And you know, they are human: they don't want to make you upset if they can avoid it.
Ok. I wish a therapist had told me this. I started therapy when I was young, so the therapist would lead it. As an adult, I continued to think that therapists would lead.
That makes absolute sense. It's one of these "better late than never things".
The hard part is narrowing down just one thing to focus on fixing first, if it's too big then it'll be impossible to fix, too small and it'll be too easy and not offer enough improvement.
Anyway, wishing you the best of luck anon.
>I continued to think that therapists would lead.
You'll be surprised how often in life you're allowed if not required to lead. That's what my first girlfriend taught me.
How do you initiate the sex with the womens?
Cute classmate throws herself at me, but when I try to kiss her or touch her she gets angry and pushes me away.
>Cute classmate throws herself at me, but when I try to kiss her or touch her she gets angry and pushes me away.
What do you mean she's throwing herself at you? Sounds like you need to give her the cold shoulder.
Let’s say we are waiting for teacher, and I’m sitting in the couch we got a few couches in class even though there are other empty ones she comes and sits on my lap, or super close to me.
She also plays with her legs on my legs.
That's just coyness. They have to pretend not to like it in the beginning. Just be a bit more forceful and 'laughingly' not take no for an answer. Of course this could lead to attention seeking false accusations, but that's the risk you run when interacting with the meme gender.
Rape her like Zeus did Leda.
You gotta be extremely honest to them, so they can diagnose properly.
You might have to start by building coping mechanisms at first, check out the Bible, I’m not religious.
Join a religion even though I don’t believe it?
I don’t say join. I said check the Bible out, I meant it as a tool for allegories and so you can project yourself to a story almost every one knows. You’ll be able to express to your therapist better.
Also I decided to watch Jpeterson Bible series right now, and check out this video, im literally watching it right now!!! Why does the universe do this
But check minute 40:00 on
I do enjoy them, but the emotional impact of trashier art that panders to my particular foibles is often preferred. I think the fact is that generally, as Neech said, art that has a direct relevance to ourselves possesses infinitely greater impact than anything else.
I haven't masturbated for 5 days because of the feels some book gave me.
Yeah current trash is sometimes preferable to the great works. I gave up
on The Count of Monte Cristo because it’s tedious. I was considering reading Anna Karenina, but I heard it’s just about people cheating on each other. Maybe A Hundred Years of Solitude would be a better read.
No, I read them because I’m curious about them and I’m a genius without accreditation
>I don’t really enjoy anything actually.
You are depressed, don't think about it too much.
Start taking warm showers every day, start exercising throughout the day, even if it’s only 1 push-up, even if it seems silly, just do it.
You’ll begin to feel a little better, try to eat and sleep at the same time every day. Start exercising a little more(push yourself to do an extra set, or even just one rep).
Write out a routine for yourself, and remember that even though you have it written, life comes and you have to work around it.
If there are toxic people around you, begin to separate yourself from them.
Get a hobby, try many different things, (collect something, make origami, anything. It does not have to cost money)
Start reading the classics, and you will begin to see why they are classic.
>le medicalization of le bad thing
I do those things and still enjoy nothing and feel miserable all the time.
that's because it's advice for normies who are coming down with a case of the Seasonal Affective DiSorder and that not all depression can be treated the same blanket way (so STFU no-to-big-pharma fags, I'm on your side)
Kek, I never said don’t medicate. You are assuming something based on one thing I wrote, which happened to be what I did to get out of depression. It may not work for everybody,
may have to take meds, that’s up to him and his doc.
>get out of depression
>le medicalization of le bad thing
Ok, please prescribe OP, Dr anon, he is depressed and needs meds asap.
>I don’t really enjoy anything actually.
Congratulations, you have depression.