Anyone else find it mind-blowing that just a few decades ago people that formed Rock bands actually had a shot to become Hollywood-tier celebrities that everyone would know?
Anyone else find it mind-blowing that just a few decades ago people that formed Rock bands actually had a shot to become Hollywood-tier celebrities that everyone would know?
The west coast and its consequences have been a disaster for the music industry
I'd say piracy and streaming are more of the problem. It's impossible to make a living through music, now. Labels are just barely scraping by, so they aren't taking risks anymore. Life would be better if we were forced to buy music again.
>It's impossible to make a living through music, now.
Meanwhile Taylor Swift and other pop and low effort rappers are multi millionaires. I don't think it's piracy, I think it's the fact that the country is less than 50% white now.
Taylor Swift has the genes and background and she was clearly groomed to be a star since the day she was born
The low effort rappers are just lucky that Rap has been the zeitgeist the past decade but they're definitely gonna get phased out this decade
>The low effort rappers are just lucky that Rap has been the zeitgeist the past decade
Rap was way stronger in the 90s. back then the Billboard top 20 was sometimes 70% rap/R&B.
>but they're definitely gonna get phased out this decade
thank god. dont get me wrong, i used to love hip hop/trap, but its getting so boring now.
Yeah it's really strange to see the reorganizing of the hierarchy of fame. Now, being a musical star is still top-tier, like yr own McChicken bucket, but it isn't really the kind of long-term interest in the artist's heart and mind kind of fame of even ten years ago. But really, most of the *big celebs* are call girls in terms of "making a brand," so best to be avoided. Even for ridiculous money, which really isn't there anymore, either.
The death of MTV and the rise of Internet and YouTube are to blame
basically no one but a select few are country wide or globally known and its not even isolated to music due to the internet
You're to blame for 100 gecs, Anton. You'll take a risk on them, but not some shoegaze band from Mexico? Shame on you, sir.
>any year after 2000
>shoegaze
Hard pass
And this is why you're out of touch. Holy shit.. zoomers love 90s alt... I deserve that A&R job, not you. You're too coked out to listen to others. This is why you fail.
What do you mean? I love real shoegaze from the 90s
Also, I’ve done coke 3 times in my life
My bad, you're from the edm scene and a record exec, so I assumed you like coke.
>What do you mean?
I'm saying 90s alt is coming back, and I'm implying you'd have to be on coke or constantly "micro dosing" to think geccs were gonna stay relevant for more than a year.
(And I'm being abrasive because I just woke up, my life sucks, hyperbole is fun, and LULZ is LULZ)
>T. The guy who signed 100 gecs and a couple failed meme rappers
Your track record is shit, but you're too coked out (and macro dosed) to notice.
Sign up some pacific northwest riot grrl band, you'll have a lot of success with that. Zoomies want authenticity, irony is dead.
I’m not Atlantic records
Also, I listened to gecs because their songs are catchy and witty, not because I want le irony
homosexual you are the reason we have 100 Gecs no room to talk
There are also other sources of entertainment now. Video games etc played a massive role and are also a huge part of why movies are dying too. Vidya music is usually really good, so good that popular OSTs are competitive with bands etc in YouTube views, so you don't even need music to listen to while you play games.
Does being a top celebrity mean more people listen to your music or more people pretend to? Probably more latter. Music and celebrity are not the best fit. Most musicians seem kinda embarassed by it like picrel.
it's definitely less personality driven now. Imagine Dragons have 100 billion views and strams yet I don't know their names or really what they look like
>Imagine Dragons have 100 billion views
Thanks Chinese bot farms.
Idk if it's entirely that. I 90% of those views are 3rd world zoomers who think "imagine dragons is music cool American teens listen to".
yeah, that's possible when you have a unified culture with shared information sources. you and your neighbor both had the same channels, the same magazines, and the same newspapers to read. you all knew what was going on in the culture because you all had the same sources for information. that doesn't exist anymore. and it never will again unless something drastic happens to the Internet and we return to having gatekeepers of information/culture like TV, Radio, and Print were.
It might actually be the reverse. Most scenes had a handful of big names, but in the past every town had it's own scene with its own sound, and each of these scenes could have a handful of big names resulting in more niches overall. Globohomo means there is basically just one scene now, so there are fewer niches. If there are ten different kingdoms then ten people can be kings, but if there is only one kingdom then only one can be king. Maybe the cultural segregation that is happening on the internet now will result in a re-emergence of localized art scenes though, since geographic separation in the past was just a means to facilitate cultural separation anyway.
>mind-blowing
You little scamp.
There are two reasons why rock died (at least in the mainstream)
1.Back then labels invested a lot of money putting these rock bands in the spotlight, rock bands are a very expensive investment. Now they can sign some soundcloud rapper and they won't have to deal with all the expenses since rap music is cheap and easy to make.
2. Everything in rock has already been done and there's no room for innovation. That's why you don't see any new innovative bands in the mainstream, the innovative ones who bring something new to the table are niche and they don't get mainstream attention at all.
>Everything in rock has already been done and there's no room for innovation.
Hip hop has been stagnant since 2016... Most black people fear inovation. Also, everyone is just copying 90s Memphis hip hop.
thanks, Reddit pasta
Radio was much more powerful in the 90’s and earlier. Keeping playlists tight is always how you get good ratings. So they’d all play the same songs everywhere. When the internet and streaming took over everything spread out. I welcome it. I welcome commercial radio dying. Everybody goes into their niches. Try listening for an hour to any pop radio station and see how long before the repetition gets annoying.
>Anyone else find it mind-blowing...
Kurt certainly did.
>mind-blowing
>had a shot
i see what you did there, op
What I find mind blowing is how you youngfags with your planck time attention spans and utter retardation have somehow managed to reshape the world to cater to your retardation, despite the fact that you have no money and no brains.