Anyone else dreading this? How am I supposed to find a job when every other asshole who applies has a cover letter and a professionally written resume? That was supposed to separate the retards from the smart people.... it's over.....
Anyone else dreading this?
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>thinking a fluffed up resume and cover letter actually matters
its all based on experience newfag. 10 year industry experience naggers with 1 line resumes will always win over 0 year industry experience babies with 5 trillion lines of resume fluff
This. If you see enough resumes you can see if the person is worth anything at a glance. Bullshit just gets your resume thrown out faster.
Chat gpt cover letter hombre
Make a resume on resume.com dummy.
It's who you know
9 out of 10 new hires are connections
ding. hiring has gotten so inept as corporate America has circled the drain that this is the only way you'll get a career type job at this point. if you don't have a personal reference, a recruiter acts as that.
The smart move is to not work for these shitbag companies, as the economy is a total joke now. You are better off doing yardwork and home repairs.
Doesn't help that an absurd chunk of "corporate america" is comprised of completely fake jobs.
People are just now feeling the effects of this if they held a fake position. They're sitting ducks whose purpose is to inflate a company's size in numbers in good times, and look like major cuts are being made in bad times so the real employees never go on the chopping block.
They are also almost entirely diversity hires.
E.g. you had a marketing department with 10 people. You estimate they do 6 to 7 hrs of actual work each. You split their work into 2 positions, with barely any work each. In theory their additional salary is more than made up for by the additional investment money they attract, and you can always fire them the moment this is not true without a single difference in work output.
That being said, the smartest thing to do right now isn't to leave entirely. Definitely don't enter unless you hate yourself or have a personal reason to be here. But if you're already in it, the key is to leverage the low standards and get into a position with some degree of control over hiring and firing.
That's how you actively disrupt those kinds of practices, which are currently acting as an invisible barrier to prevent white men from getting decent normal office jobs in favor of mostly fat lazy women with arts degrees.
Now is the perfect time as well because corporations are legitimately hurting from the violent inadequacy they've been brooding.
The diversity hires are also very sensitive, so you can easily affect them enough to make them ragequit on their own even if they don't even work for you.
cope retard
learn to speak properly and you can get through any interview
these men are employed
Work on your handshake
If you're """dev""" job is so easy that it can be automated by a smart autocomplete engine like copilot or some cope nocode tool then you're in the wrong profession.
Well congrats to whoever is about to make a fuckload of money from this, but no to your bad doomer take on it.
Your resume only has to compete well in terms of the requirements that get you through HR. That means it needs to be formatted and optimized according to how the scanners they use filter out relevant vs. irrelevant applications, has the right keywords, needs cover letter ideally, etc.
But there is no such thing as doing that "the best," because from there your resume gets handed off to the people who are actually evaluating you, and they could not give less of a shit. What they give a shit about is how weird and incompetent you seem in an interview, which is where these types will proceed to waste their fancy resume investments.
I just had to do a round of hiring not that long ago and there were a few zoomers who had this exact issue. Beautiful resumes that could not hide the incompetency they had to offer, and they got no where.
Side note/tip: If you lack work experience and are fresh out of school, for the love of god stop putting clubs and awards you got in school on your resume. I don't know who is telling you people to do this, but it is instantly noticeable and your shit tier bullshitting is wasting your time by getting you through to interviews that you're 100% going to bomb.
customer service jobs when you're a teen are a great way to learn to talk to people. when you get to the interview stage it basically comes down to your potential future coworkers deciding if you're someone they can tolerate working with or not, if you get to an interview stage your competencies are pretty much already determined to meet the minimum requirements. zoomers are fucking awkward and only know how to communicate on discord, get a customer facing job to build you conversational skills and get that eye contact mastered you damn zoomer retards.
They seem to have this idea that they need to sound professional and experienced, and it is always forced and out of place for what they obviously are.
I usually go out of my way to hire younger and less experienced people for the most part. Mostly because it's a great starting point for a good career when a lot of them are trying to get their first "real job" that's relevant to their studies. And because it's honestly just easier to teach someone who doesn't think they already know a thing or two.
But the past couple of years, the zoomers that have applied have all been legitimately defective. Just as human beings.
I am a literal autist, so you have to be really fucking deficient for me to think that you're too retarded to function in a very underwhelming office wagie environment. Has nothing to do with experience or even basic skills, they just have no idea how to be helpful, regular people and the way they come across in interviews is always very fake.
I'm not gonna lie to you, I think they are legitimately fucked in the head in a very permanent and debilitating way that wasn't around to the same extent just a few years ago.
any zoomers care to chime in? i work in an environment where the youngest people are nearly 30 so i have no experience with zoomers except for a handful of zoomer girl interns but they're fantastic, maybe it's the guys who are fucked in the head.
We get almost exclusively women coming through this particular shithole besides the obligatory token minorities that never get hired.
It's not to say they aren't polite or something but they just seem to have no realistic idea of very basic common sense, to the point where they are unsettling to talk to.
But to be fair I'm in an industry that fosters severe leftoid retardation even amongst the 30+ year olds, so maybe the position is naturally attractive to former buzzfeed employees or some shit.
I'm a 22 y/o freshman in college right now and I can second this. They are fucking retarded and lack basic communication skills. It's truly appalling
well now the thing reading the resumes will also be AI, so as long as your skills match up it might be even easier
If you aren't working on your AI skills at this moment what the fuck are you doing? You should have been preparing for this for years at this point. Any programmer worth their salt will tell you to keep up on new skills if you want to keep your career, what the fuck do you think this is? A phase? Brother, you'll know when we hit a wall, there won't be new developments literally every day.
The problem with "AI skills" is they are all locked behind a gate where you need massive centralized datacenters, huge datasets and lots of $/human talent to make anything happen.
Programmers can't -really- work on this alone.
the thing is, costs will go down and quality will go up and it might happen exponentially, there is high demand and they will find ways to replace every one of the traditional devs and use one solutions architect that will use AI to achieve what team of devs would do.
it's nice to get all excited about cutting human jobs, but I never hear any excitement about what happens to the humans on the other side of this fantasy scenario
do they just die?
>do they just die?
some will, no doubt
others will go into business for themselves
others still will join the ranks of the lumpenproletariat, which as we know is the fertile soil of revolution
You can run and train Stable Diffusion on your own machine. You can read white papers and get a leg up on knowledge. If you're smart there are ways to get the power to run general language models and get training data. The resources exist. Even if you get good at simple prompt engineering and fine tuning and APIs, you have a leg up on people simply freaking out that AI is coming for their job, people who learned a single technology and banked their life on it, hoping they could be lazy and get big computer bucks.
Clippy is back and he demands answers
I was wondering when I accidentally hopped to LULZ
I swore I closed that tab...
Cover letters Anger me.
Writing them on top of the resume is Evil.
I dispise those that request them.
Bitch, read the resume, meet me in Person, and it works or it dosent.
I hate it so much, the shit hoops.
ITS OVER
If you dread this, you are a midwit who does not know what you are doing.
AI-assisted development will not replacement programmers. It acts as a power-multiplier for them, similar to how advanced IDE features like AutoComplete/Intellisense, code-snippet/templates, and in-line documentation did.
This is just the next evolution of "hey it looks like you're doing A, let me help you out with that". Yes, it is a big jump and I understand the mind-blowing nature of it. But it will be normalized.
It's not going to replace your job. A manager isn't going to have 5-6 "AIs" under him doing all the work. They need butts in seats and people who can be held accountable for the work.
It's actually awesome. I've been using ChatGPT and Copilot for work and hobby dev and it's a huge godsend. No need to copy/paste/edit huge blocks of code or painstakingly write documentation. It basically ghost-writes itself when you use proper variable and function names.
Imagine you're writing a library for handling network packets and traffic. You have a bunch of functions like WriteByte, WriteInt16, WriteInt32, etc for each data type you can serialize or deserialize. You do some bit shifting or character encoding, length-prefixing, whatever. Once you write the first two it basically autocompletes all the rest for you, according to your coding style. Shit is cash.
Again, if you are a programmer you won't worry about this. If you are just an idiot, you will think you will be replaced because you can't even audit code.
Doesn’t understand that it will take away jobs because it makes 1 programmer as effective as 10.
>Doesn’t understand that it will take away jobs because it makes 1 programmer as effective as 10.
In the current scenario, where devs are overworked and barely write tests and documentation, I find it quite hard.
But at the same time, if people just want to keep doing shit code as their default output, this can replace 100 naggers in no time.
I would say that this makes the position of "junior" and even some regulars obsolete.
> If I have to double check everything in your code, come back when I don't need to, meanwhile I'm staying with AI for meaningless work
I mostly agree anon, this will not kill programming jobs entirely, but as
said, it will certainly shrink the dev workforce. Or maybe these companies will find new work for the people who would get phased out.
after I used it to write cover letter in multiple different ways I noticed a pattern and when I'm reading people's descriptions on LinkedIn or other places I notice it frequently, for example, one of the words GPT uses when talking about experience is "honed", as in, "I honed", I haven't seen this word used as much before,but maybe I didn't pay attention.
You can just tell it, "change the wording to not seem so cookie cutter" and it will lol.
Nobody ITT has ever used it? Imagine you could have a coop student generate shitty code that takes into account nothing about the overall project requirements - in seconds any time, anywhere.
Anything it generates you'll be spending time fitting into the rest of the codebase, if you don't just throw it out. That's been my impression, at least for brownfield work.
Obviously it will get better over time, but it's still years away from automating real developers.
Yes, it basically gets you 80-90% the way there. Sometimes it's 100% on smaller tasks. You can even use it to help refactor exiting code using certain design principles.
It is immensely powerful once you start trying different things. GPT-4 is even a huge jump from the previous gen. It can take like 10x the amount of input and does better with more abstract stuff like IAC (generate me some Terraform that deploys to AWS).
It's also great for generating documentation and explaining code. I can tell it "write markdown / doxygen documentation for these functions with this format" and it will.
Imagine not having to write API or library documentation and instead it could be generated automatically as part of CI/CD instead. Holy fuck.
It can't even count correctly and you'd have it write API documentation? Can't wait to have to use your API and it doesn't work and nobody can figure out why.
> it basically gets you 80-90% the way there
Pajeets on suicide watch
My manager edited my resume' for me. I used my white privilege card.
This is why I love whiteboard interviews.
> Where your chatgpt now nagger?
I tried, but it still seemed very cookie cutter, one thing that did work is when I asked to rewrite its text in simpler terms, not to use complex vocabulary, then it gave something that sounds less AI generated