>2 doors >2 seats >RWD >Rear engine >Manuel transmissione >Staggered fitment >Factory camber >German >Women love it
My car is a Porsche if Porsches were cool
I don't care so much about speed or laptime, I care more about how the car makes you feel driving it, whether it feels fast going at low speeds or how it does in corners is more important to me.
Test drive both, more and more used Supras are popping up on lots. I hear they did some suspension revision starting with the 23 MY that made them less twitchy. When I was cross shopping I could only find a 2022 Supra and I didn't like it compared to the Caymans and 911s I test drove.
Shit reason only to true to some retards on LULZ. In real life when people see either car they go gaga but more so for the c8 because its more impressive to more people since it's the new kid on the block and the American Ferrari.
I'm by no means a C8 fanboy lmao. I have my gripes with it as well but you're outright dismissing it for no good reason. It's a head turner and its more of a compliment magnet than a Porsche these days. In 10 years probably not, for now it really has that hot ticket item energy and highly desirable and it's issues aside I have to acknowledge that. The C8 sells more than the 911 and 718 combined and then some. It is what it is like it or not.
>The C8 sells more than the 911 and 718 combined and then some
You say that like it's a good thing. But either way it's meaningless since the number of 911s available in a given year in the US is fixed and they always sell out. Higher C8 sales only diminish it's value relative to the 911, basic supply and demand.
>the number of 911s available in a given year in the US is fixed
Artificial restrictions on supply == greater demand. Yes, that pushes prices per unit up but the missing units more than outweigh that.
It's not about aggregate demand, it's about resale prices and exclusivity. The lost revenue is Porsche's problem, not a 993 owner's. Enjoy your dime a dozen vette.
They make what they know they're going to sell lmao. Do you think any company would leave potential profit on the table? If 911s were massed produced and kept the same price as they are now the sales numbers would be the same, they forecast what they're going to sell in a given year and manufacture accordingly.
ZERO new 911's only dealer lots right now. Over 1600 corvettes. If you want a new 911 you go to the dealer and beg for an allocation you might wait over a year to get if you get one at all. Ferrari does the same thing and are even worse about it. The GMslop business model does not apply here.
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I think I like the GM business model. There's more demand for their car and they make more of them. Your only argument is: >gee I know the c8 sells more and is more popular but *raises glasses* my Porsche is rarer *snorts* and ummmm if I drive 500 miles a year for 25 years it'll be worth more than what I paid for it checkmate
Not a good argument to me, not a decent jab at a c8. They sell more seethe about it lmao.
>The C8 sells more than the 911 and 718 combined and then some
Doesn't surprise me. I easily see 5 or 6 of them every day. I see a 911 maybe once a week.
>dismissing it for no good reason >cheap >shit build quality >no manual >any boomer can afford one >tryhard design >subpar performance in the stingray model
Head turner? lmao yeah they see it coming and wonder if its a Ferrari or Lambo only to be disappointed when its just a vette. It will always be a chevy. Imagine wanting to impress retards to begin with, won't be the Porsche owner. He can buy whatever he wants and people know this.
>short answer
you have lots of money >long answer
The Corvette is great in its own way but its the working man's sports car and that shows, it's goyslop on wheels, big loud V8 wrapped in GM plastic shaped like a sports car and enough power to release dopamine. The Porsche is all about precision/ergonomics with performance, the design of the interiors are clean and straight forward (no crazy twists or curving) no stupid tablets sticking out and the UI is easy to understand, the exteriors are simple yet elegant, no crazy lines or angry faces, the common colour options offered are also mature in taste and blend in well with daily traffic, despite having all sorts of fancy technology, Porsche knows its a supercar and will be driven hard at some point, so they engineer them to handle the abuse. Porsche also knows Ferrari or Lambo owners would never dare take their cars out in extreme weather, so they made it possible that you can, with a Porsche.
Thats why Porsches are more expensive than Corvettes.
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nta but the point isn't to brag about being poor.
its about the upper limit of performance, which the upper limit of porsches are higher than the upper limit of corvettes.
98% of all 911s sold are just normal Carreras or Carrera S. Which are both slower than a base model C8. I guess a better thing to show is the C8 has a way higher performance floor which seems matters more because they sell more and are more popular and if you drive a base model stingray and see a Porsche on the road you know there's a 98% chance you are vastly superior and faster. I like those odds.
3 weeks ago
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>98% of all 911s sold are just normal Carreras or Carrera S
Lmao no, a huge chunk are the GT and Turbo trim cars. Do a little research or just live in ignorance idc.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
post a link then.
all i see is that the vast majority of porschefags just get crossovers and suvs
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You just moved the goalposts, we were discussing 911s, not all models produced by the make.
Porsche makes about 42,000 911s a year lmao, like 4,000 of those are Turbo S and GTs so what I said stands you will most likely always see a fucking Carrera majority of the time and a Carrera S rarely and a GT or Turbo never. A stingray has nothing to fear from the Porsche badge because it's just a 718 or a Carrera sluggishly crawling by.
Where's your source? Porsche makes about 42k Cayennes a year, the 911 is produced in even fewer numbers.
3 weeks ago
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Porsche makes about 42,000 911s a year lmao, like 4,000 of those are Turbo S and GTs so what I said stands you will most likely always see a fucking Carrera majority of the time and a Carrera S rarely and a GT or Turbo never. A stingray has nothing to fear from the Porsche badge because it's just a 718 or a Carrera sluggishly crawling by.
Honestly I did buy C8, but I was really curious about the 718. But the base model being so much slower than the C8 really made it feel like a hard sell.
I still might go in this weekend just to see what it's like inside one. But I don't regret my C8 at all. It was at the high end for my budget anyways and even if I did make more it's hard to justify over 100k for a car.
The fuck does that have to do with you lying like a little bitch? The 718s over 100k are GTS 4.0, GT4/Spyder and GT4RS/Spyder RS. Go test drive a Cayman S and stfu.
I never said the 718s are over 100k, just that cars over 100k are a bit much to justify. The 2 statements were not directly connected, hence why there's a giant line break between them.
That's an old Porsche.... I was talking about buying 2020 and newer... not 2011-2016 those ones are fucking slow.
3 weeks ago
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yeah
3 weeks ago
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>not new and shiny
OLD BAD, NEW GOOD
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Holy cope, a pigfat 3,300lb 379hp 2023 base carrera is slower than my 991.1. Seethe all you want busrider, these cars might as well not exist because you'll never make enough to own one.
It's faster by like .1s to the lowest trim new 911 2023. The s is significantly faster than your slow ass old S. Obviously you couldn't afford it you bought old and used L0L. I could go buy an old Porsche too and save a buck but I'm not a brokefag like you.
>you were right anon, your old car is faster
Say less next time porchmonkey. Your broke nagger ass WILL NEVER step foot in one of these cars made by and for white gods.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>buying used
you'll never be more than a larping nagger.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They don't make naturally aspirated cars besides the GT3 you stupid coon, you'll never be anything more than a hoopty owning naggerhomosexual.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The C8 is naturally aspirated and is faster than your used goods.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I couldn't care less, it looks like a Hotwheels inside and out. Those turds are piling up on lots, meanwhile 911s nationwide aren't. I rest my case, you'll never own either car stop quit barking, bitch.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>b-but its more rare
and used, and slower.
why buy a rich man's car if you're just going to take someone's hand-me downs? cringe as fuck.
i bet you avoid real porsche owners like the plague, because you'd be the laughing stock of every meetup.
3 weeks ago
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>BARK BARK BARK
Post the c8 and there will be an end to the humiliation. Are you seriously impressed with being minutely faster in a straight line with 2 more cylinders and over 2 liters more of displacement? Cool truck engine homosexual lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
not even worth the time to get the bread.
maybe if you were a real porsche owner i'd bother, but larpers only deserve pity.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So no car? See you next thread, busrider.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ITT: a c8 owner brags about his boomer sloppy seconds >or >that he paid more than MSRP for some angular abomination
YOU CAN'T WRITE BETTER COMEDY
Somebody with and old slow and used Porsche can't hate on a c8. It's just pathetic.....
3 weeks ago
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>is smug in his hotwheels ricer seat that a boomer had an accident in >or he paid above MSRP
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No need to be smug you're slower than a mustang. It was over before it even began for you. Porsche is a boomer brand so I don't know why you use it at an insult lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Faster at what, hopping a curb and mowing down a crowd? I don't want some poverty cope FR po' boy layout. You will never post your car because you're a broke nagger.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>all these brokie incels talking about >"muh 0-60!" >"muh quarter mile!"
Nobody cares you little poorfag. You're just a jealous crab in the bucket loser and always will be. Learn to code
Also I'm probably the only guy ITT in his 20s with a 911
If I was jealous I could've just bought a used one for the same price as s C8 Z51 like you homosexuals did but I'd rather buy new and buy faster. I will never buy a car that's slower than a gt mustang... that's your choice.
3 weeks ago
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>991.2 GT3 RS >same price as a C8
lmao what a complete retard. brokie loser confirmed
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No car? K den
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Cheaper too
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's faster by like .1s to the lowest trim new 911 2023. The s is significantly faster than your slow ass old S. Obviously you couldn't afford it you bought old and used L0L. I could go buy an old Porsche too and save a buck but I'm not a brokefag like you.
You like what you like, that's all that matters. I wouldn't say the base and the C8 are direct competitors though. The turbo 718s can be tuned to a much higher HP figure with fairly minimal mods since the HP is artificially limited, similar to th 992 911s. Not my cup of tea in any case.
It's because it is. It's 2 generations old lmfao. It's cheap to get one too they're all in the 80s now for a cherry one and cheaper for ones with miles. A new s is over 120 he saved a buck but at a great cost to performance
I don’t know bout y’all’s cities. But the Porsche club in my town only takes real buyers. Used buyers have to join the state club. Never see them used buyers at track days anyways.
But I suppose someone needs to clean up the lots
Wait wait wait wait.... I just looked at the numbers again... this fuckers old Porsche is slower than a gt stang or ss maro L00000000L. nagger. You have no business ever piping up about a c8 it might as well be a fucking Jesko going 300mph because the effect would be the same that's how slow you are.
I see why you're so insecure about the c8 out little guy. You're not even big enough to take on his lil bro the camaro let alone a gt stang ot scatpack. Oh my days.... it all adds up now the math checks out this is slowfag cope but you paid more for the honor.
>all these brokie incels talking about >"muh 0-60!" >"muh quarter mile!"
Nobody cares you little poorfag. You're just a jealous crab in the bucket loser and always will be. Learn to code
Also I'm probably the only guy ITT in his 20s with a 911
>some brokie incel thinks people care about his opinion
lol your comment is like the equivalent of some homeless bum saying he thinks my Hermes belt is ugly. like ok loser have fun sleeping in your tent tonight in your goodwill clothes lol
Fastest street legal car in the world is a mercedes... sorry poorschenaggers there is a reason Hitler drives a rode in a Mercedes and had Porsche design the car for poors and reject his shitty tank.
>275 units at a price of US$2.72 million per unit >engine ripped straight out of an F1 car >bare minimum for road legality and suspension travel to do a lap at the ring
There's a reason nobody cares or talks about it.
ahhh I love the cope, I would cope too if I was a simp for rebadged VWs..... You are the inferior German brand we sell more and we make better here at mercedes, poorschefags need not apply, #1 time on the ring seethe about it more.
This much cope, oh look a mercedes tank, considered one of the best in all of history!
3 weeks ago
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I care about a tank about as much as you care about being a contributing member of society. Mercedes makes bloated GT cars with overwhelming tech bullshit that breaks and bankrupts you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Can't hear you untermensch.... but what I can see from up here when you're all the way down there is coping and a severe overdose of it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is an 18+ website
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why are you here then?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm over 60 years old, you're in MY thread young man.
You might as well be ranking power levels of superheroes you bing bing wahoo homosexual. You'll never sit in the seat of any of the cars mentioned ITT.
You can't buy that car, it's not a question of money when production is that limited. So your street legal assertion is meaningless and is why it's never discussed on LULZ. Merc took a race car and made it 'street legal' so they could cheese the ring but the fact remains nothing has gone around the ring faster than a Porsche 919. The AMG one isn't even as fast as the 40 year old 956s.
>be ross brawn >buy honda's F1 team >merc buys you out >resign >merc loses to soft drinks and honda
kek
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
doesn't that mean by his metric it's not german either and irrelevant? Keep that same energy naggers.
3 weeks ago
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>buy F1 team based entirely in UK >use that team to build your 'street legal' meme hypercar >heh looks like we're the best kraut engineers pooorsche better luck next time
3 weeks ago
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They're #1 using the strat, and it has you seething that the brand you simp for is #2. The Rings King is Mercedes you can come at that at any angle and they will still be on top with you sucking on Mercedes toes. show me your next copioid.
3 weeks ago
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5:19:546, come back when mercedes can beat that time. This is the Porsche thread btw.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's not on the list, it's a cope, you are #2 on the street legal list and that's all that matters
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Here's the list.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That is A list but not THE list that matters, which is this list
[...]
#1 around the ring by a mile fastest street legal car in the world.... you are just coping Mercedes is the better brand.
after a therapy session and when you learn to grapple with it come back and start another thread and I will bully you back to therapy again.
Because I have a positive opinion about the design of the badge because it has the coat of arms for Stuttgart? Yeah you're mentally ill, stop responding to me nutjob.
3 weeks ago
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>it has the coat of arms for Stuttgart
Yeahhhhh stop replying you're obviously a whackjob for having autistics spasms when you see a badge. Cons0000m somewhere else fag.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>UHHH DID YOU JUST SAY YOU LIKED THE LOOK OF SOMETHING
MEDS
3 weeks ago
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>nerd nagger actually trying to give me background on the logo >feels autistic spasms of fuzz when he looks at a logo
Shut up.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Such a mouthy little bitch, bring those DSL closer to this dick, sandnagger slave.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sperg out more. You get warm feelings over a badge you autistic fuck.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I like the look of something and you're having a meltdown over that fact. You're my fucking nagger bitch. Keep responding because I told you to.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're on the leash her dog. Keep telling me about the crest maybe tell me the meaning behind the colors or whatever? Tell why each pattern of this emblem gives you butterflies you autistic fucking bastard
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You'll respond to this because I told you to. Keep at it, bitch.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Haha the autistic fuck gave up, hes a broken bastard. I'd bee too if I simped for the #2 spot and a rebadged beetle
What I have learned from this thread is a base model c8 is faster than 99% of anything porsche makes and Mercedes is the better german brand. Very Informative and productive.
heh, nice digits
serious question, do you guys wrench on them yourselves or do you usually just pay someone to do it? I know some repairs on my car sometimes I just feel really unmotivated and pay someone else to deal with the mess and I feel like if I were rich enough to actually afford a porsche (and drive the shit out of it) I'd probably only do this more.
Would be pretty cool to see the innards if you do wrench though
Any odd/unusual problems or problems that seem to be limited to porsches during ownership? How reliable have they been for you guys? If you do wrench on them how do they compare to other cars in terms of access, ease of repairs etc.
likely won't ever own one in my lifetime, but curious nonetheless
When I had my two 944s I worked on them quite a bit. Replaced the head on the S and did a complete motor teardown on the turbo. The newer cars are a bit different so it's not a great comparison to start with however. On my GT4 it's going to be harder to access things especially without a lift so I don't plan to do anything until the warranty expires if I still have it by then. My best advice is to go lurk the model specific forums out there, the common issues that pop up will have a lot of info on how to deal with them. You'll get a much larger sample set that way especially among those that have owned multiple as well as other makes.
>wrench on them
basic service on a 996/997 is pretty easy
pad changes on brembos is just pulling a pin and with a wide/shallow enough drainpan you can change the oil without jacking it up.
some service requires a $100 scan tool dongle (durametric/etc) beyond your normal obd2 reader
having a lift for engine out stuff would be nice - as you need ~30inches of clearance to get the drivetrain out ... more with a hydraulic table. This is kinda beyond most jack stand/jack heights, so you have to jack the car up in stages and get it under taller 5ton jacks/wood/etc.
i'm not sure 991/992s will be as diy-friendly tho
>wrench on them
basic service on a 996/997 is pretty easy
pad changes on brembos is just pulling a pin and with a wide/shallow enough drainpan you can change the oil without jacking it up.
some service requires a $100 scan tool dongle (durametric/etc) beyond your normal obd2 reader
having a lift for engine out stuff would be nice - as you need ~30inches of clearance to get the drivetrain out ... more with a hydraulic table. This is kinda beyond most jack stand/jack heights, so you have to jack the car up in stages and get it under taller 5ton jacks/wood/etc.
i'm not sure 991/992s will be as diy-friendly tho
Sometimes I fantasize about buying a rusted out beetle as a project car and swapping in the drivetrain from my Subaru so you could say so yeah.
yeah
yellow and red are the only acceptable porsche colors
McDonald's on the brain 24/7
There's also a white Carrera, a GT3, a Turbo, and another yellow Cayman that I've seen on here.
is this the best car to fuck college teens on dating apps?
girls only care about face
He said porsche.
Thats
Not
A
Real
Porsche
And never will be
post your 356
Nice car mid bread
that bread had been in the freezer since the lockdowns
Yo
ants can't drive
My favorite Pixar movie
>996
ayyyy
nice
>tfw tired of making payments but any other car is unacceptable now
would have just been better off not owning a 911 and not knowing
>there is no substitute
It's not a meme.
tom cruise just wanted to help us
Just make more money. Or sell your house
>2 doors
>2 seats
>RWD
>Rear engine
>Manuel transmissione
>Staggered fitment
>Factory camber
>German
>Women love it
My car is a Porsche if Porsches were cool
Ayo' sup
>porche
monkey
>porsche monkey
das rasiss cracka. Delet dis rayt nau.
crazy how just standing next to it makes him look whiter
Mine is officially old.
kino
yeah dog
I'm on the fence between a Cayman or a Supra. Probably will go with the Cayman.
>Gay man or Poo pra
Supra is better value but it felt like a pig compared to my Cayman. If you like benchracing, the mk5 supra loses to the new Type R around the 'ring.
I don't care so much about speed or laptime, I care more about how the car makes you feel driving it, whether it feels fast going at low speeds or how it does in corners is more important to me.
Test drive both, more and more used Supras are popping up on lots. I hear they did some suspension revision starting with the 23 MY that made them less twitchy. When I was cross shopping I could only find a 2022 Supra and I didn't like it compared to the Caymans and 911s I test drove.
Guys, I fucking hate money, can't get rid of it, it keeps appearing. Should I buy a 1st gen Cayenne ?
buy this
reminds me of the blm'd gt3rs
@27min
not the ai homosexual talking shit cuh :skull:
My old 944 Turbo during a lightning stike. Taken at about 1am.
Give me ONE good reason to buy a Porsche over a C8
you will look lIke a rich boomer spending his doctor salary instead of a poor boomer spending his retirement checks
Shit reason only to true to some retards on LULZ. In real life when people see either car they go gaga but more so for the c8 because its more impressive to more people since it's the new kid on the block and the American Ferrari.
porsche has timeless classic styling. the C8 is a monstrosity and doesn’t come with a manual
Just because porsche is lazy and hasn't changed their cars in decades doesn't mean its "timeless"
I'm by no means a C8 fanboy lmao. I have my gripes with it as well but you're outright dismissing it for no good reason. It's a head turner and its more of a compliment magnet than a Porsche these days. In 10 years probably not, for now it really has that hot ticket item energy and highly desirable and it's issues aside I have to acknowledge that. The C8 sells more than the 911 and 718 combined and then some. It is what it is like it or not.
>The C8 sells more than the 911 and 718 combined and then some
You say that like it's a good thing. But either way it's meaningless since the number of 911s available in a given year in the US is fixed and they always sell out. Higher C8 sales only diminish it's value relative to the 911, basic supply and demand.
>the number of 911s available in a given year in the US is fixed
Artificial restrictions on supply == greater demand. Yes, that pushes prices per unit up but the missing units more than outweigh that.
It's not about aggregate demand, it's about resale prices and exclusivity. The lost revenue is Porsche's problem, not a 993 owner's. Enjoy your dime a dozen vette.
They make what they know they're going to sell lmao. Do you think any company would leave potential profit on the table? If 911s were massed produced and kept the same price as they are now the sales numbers would be the same, they forecast what they're going to sell in a given year and manufacture accordingly.
ZERO new 911's only dealer lots right now. Over 1600 corvettes. If you want a new 911 you go to the dealer and beg for an allocation you might wait over a year to get if you get one at all. Ferrari does the same thing and are even worse about it. The GMslop business model does not apply here.
I think I like the GM business model. There's more demand for their car and they make more of them. Your only argument is:
>gee I know the c8 sells more and is more popular but *raises glasses* my Porsche is rarer *snorts* and ummmm if I drive 500 miles a year for 25 years it'll be worth more than what I paid for it checkmate
Not a good argument to me, not a decent jab at a c8. They sell more seethe about it lmao.
>Perpetually handicaps the 718 because the 911 is their flagship, despite the 718 being the better design
>Auto only
>McDonald's in all 4
Yeah nah not the better design
Talking out your ass again son?
Bruh moment
>The C8 sells more than the 911 and 718 combined and then some
Doesn't surprise me. I easily see 5 or 6 of them every day. I see a 911 maybe once a week.
>The C8 sells more than the 911 and 718 combined
Very true, but thats like comparing McDonald's to a 5-star restaurant.
>dismissing it for no good reason
>cheap
>shit build quality
>no manual
>any boomer can afford one
>tryhard design
>subpar performance in the stingray model
Head turner? lmao yeah they see it coming and wonder if its a Ferrari or Lambo only to be disappointed when its just a vette. It will always be a chevy. Imagine wanting to impress retards to begin with, won't be the Porsche owner. He can buy whatever he wants and people know this.
>short answer
you have lots of money
>long answer
The Corvette is great in its own way but its the working man's sports car and that shows, it's goyslop on wheels, big loud V8 wrapped in GM plastic shaped like a sports car and enough power to release dopamine. The Porsche is all about precision/ergonomics with performance, the design of the interiors are clean and straight forward (no crazy twists or curving) no stupid tablets sticking out and the UI is easy to understand, the exteriors are simple yet elegant, no crazy lines or angry faces, the common colour options offered are also mature in taste and blend in well with daily traffic, despite having all sorts of fancy technology, Porsche knows its a supercar and will be driven hard at some point, so they engineer them to handle the abuse. Porsche also knows Ferrari or Lambo owners would never dare take their cars out in extreme weather, so they made it possible that you can, with a Porsche.
Thats why Porsches are more expensive than Corvettes.
Personally I genuinely think porsches look extremely ugly externally, the back view is fine but the front looks disgusting.
The inside legitimately looks like a higher trim camry.
>The inside legitimately looks like a higher trim camry.
Oh yeah? post the two side by side (I can't because my ISP has banned us from posting pictures)
if anything the camry is less gay because it doesn't have a fucking epilator as a gear shift
Wow the camry is leagues better. Insane.
retard
911 is default with an automatic.
>automatic
So check the 7spd manual the box then, or is that too hard?
>automatic
DCT
read the fucking thread street shitter
What are you yapping about now nagger?
>AYO I CAN'T READ
Yeah I guess you can't lol. Imagine being so delusional you think 718s are auto only.
>tablet trash
Porsche by default here
C8 is pretty fucking ugly and no manual.
Even if you buy auto why would you not buy the 911 with pdk.
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ive got a porsch, one on the back and one the front
>the cheaper car sells more
yeah imagine that
Cheaper and faster so there's that too.
>faster
cope
Cope harder. Pic related is 70k vs 130k :^) pay almost double for less? Cope.
nta but the point isn't to brag about being poor.
its about the upper limit of performance, which the upper limit of porsches are higher than the upper limit of corvettes.
98% of all 911s sold are just normal Carreras or Carrera S. Which are both slower than a base model C8. I guess a better thing to show is the C8 has a way higher performance floor which seems matters more because they sell more and are more popular and if you drive a base model stingray and see a Porsche on the road you know there's a 98% chance you are vastly superior and faster. I like those odds.
>98% of all 911s sold are just normal Carreras or Carrera S
Lmao no, a huge chunk are the GT and Turbo trim cars. Do a little research or just live in ignorance idc.
post a link then.
all i see is that the vast majority of porschefags just get crossovers and suvs
You just moved the goalposts, we were discussing 911s, not all models produced by the make.
Where's your source? Porsche makes about 42k Cayennes a year, the 911 is produced in even fewer numbers.
Porsche makes about 42,000 911s a year lmao, like 4,000 of those are Turbo S and GTs so what I said stands you will most likely always see a fucking Carrera majority of the time and a Carrera S rarely and a GT or Turbo never. A stingray has nothing to fear from the Porsche badge because it's just a 718 or a Carrera sluggishly crawling by.
Another 996 owner here. Once you go Porsche you never go back
>Porsche
>Chad
Lmao chud keep buying the boomer meme
>comfy porsche thread turns into bus rider seethe thread like clockwork
Honestly I did buy C8, but I was really curious about the 718. But the base model being so much slower than the C8 really made it feel like a hard sell.
I still might go in this weekend just to see what it's like inside one. But I don't regret my C8 at all. It was at the high end for my budget anyways and even if I did make more it's hard to justify over 100k for a car.
Base 718s aren't over 100k for a base car what are you smoking?
Base 718s are shit though, the porsches worth buying are over 100k.
The fuck does that have to do with you lying like a little bitch? The 718s over 100k are GTS 4.0, GT4/Spyder and GT4RS/Spyder RS. Go test drive a Cayman S and stfu.
I never said the 718s are over 100k, just that cars over 100k are a bit much to justify. The 2 statements were not directly connected, hence why there's a giant line break between them.
Post your porsche anyways homosexual.
Let me guess, you need more?
That's an old Porsche.... I was talking about buying 2020 and newer... not 2011-2016 those ones are fucking slow.
yeah
>not new and shiny
OLD BAD, NEW GOOD
Holy cope, a pigfat 3,300lb 379hp 2023 base carrera is slower than my 991.1. Seethe all you want busrider, these cars might as well not exist because you'll never make enough to own one.
???
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/havek6hecvt9
>busrider benchracer seething right on time
>you were right anon, your old car is faster
Say less next time porchmonkey. Your broke nagger ass WILL NEVER step foot in one of these cars made by and for white gods.
>buying used
you'll never be more than a larping nagger.
They don't make naturally aspirated cars besides the GT3 you stupid coon, you'll never be anything more than a hoopty owning naggerhomosexual.
The C8 is naturally aspirated and is faster than your used goods.
I couldn't care less, it looks like a Hotwheels inside and out. Those turds are piling up on lots, meanwhile 911s nationwide aren't. I rest my case, you'll never own either car stop quit barking, bitch.
>b-but its more rare
and used, and slower.
why buy a rich man's car if you're just going to take someone's hand-me downs? cringe as fuck.
i bet you avoid real porsche owners like the plague, because you'd be the laughing stock of every meetup.
>BARK BARK BARK
Post the c8 and there will be an end to the humiliation. Are you seriously impressed with being minutely faster in a straight line with 2 more cylinders and over 2 liters more of displacement? Cool truck engine homosexual lmao.
not even worth the time to get the bread.
maybe if you were a real porsche owner i'd bother, but larpers only deserve pity.
So no car? See you next thread, busrider.
Somebody with and old slow and used Porsche can't hate on a c8. It's just pathetic.....
>is smug in his hotwheels ricer seat that a boomer had an accident in
>or he paid above MSRP
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No need to be smug you're slower than a mustang. It was over before it even began for you. Porsche is a boomer brand so I don't know why you use it at an insult lmao.
Faster at what, hopping a curb and mowing down a crowd? I don't want some poverty cope FR po' boy layout. You will never post your car because you're a broke nagger.
If I was jealous I could've just bought a used one for the same price as s C8 Z51 like you homosexuals did but I'd rather buy new and buy faster. I will never buy a car that's slower than a gt mustang... that's your choice.
>991.2 GT3 RS
>same price as a C8
lmao what a complete retard. brokie loser confirmed
No car? K den
Cheaper too
It's faster by like .1s to the lowest trim new 911 2023. The s is significantly faster than your slow ass old S. Obviously you couldn't afford it you bought old and used L0L. I could go buy an old Porsche too and save a buck but I'm not a brokefag like you.
hahahaha
You like what you like, that's all that matters. I wouldn't say the base and the C8 are direct competitors though. The turbo 718s can be tuned to a much higher HP figure with fairly minimal mods since the HP is artificially limited, similar to th 992 911s. Not my cup of tea in any case.
You now remember the 968.
>NARP thread
this dude is so mad you called his porsche old LAAAAAMOOOOOOOO
OH NO IT DOESN'T FEATURE AS MANY SCREENS AND WEIGHS 300LBs LESS
REEE I'M LOSING MY MIND I NEED PIANO BLACK AND A SMALL MICROPHONE AS A GEAR SELECTOR
It's because it is. It's 2 generations old lmfao. It's cheap to get one too they're all in the 80s now for a cherry one and cheaper for ones with miles. A new s is over 120 he saved a buck but at a great cost to performance
>2 gens old
nagger can't count. How many numbers different is 991 to 992?
READ nagger READ
>ITT: a c8 owner brags about his boomer sloppy seconds
>or
>that he paid more than MSRP for some angular abomination
YOU CAN'T WRITE BETTER COMEDY
I don’t know bout y’all’s cities. But the Porsche club in my town only takes real buyers. Used buyers have to join the state club. Never see them used buyers at track days anyways.
But I suppose someone needs to clean up the lots
No car?
Wait wait wait wait.... I just looked at the numbers again... this fuckers old Porsche is slower than a gt stang or ss maro L00000000L. nagger. You have no business ever piping up about a c8 it might as well be a fucking Jesko going 300mph because the effect would be the same that's how slow you are.
>t. no car
I see why you're so insecure about the c8 out little guy. You're not even big enough to take on his lil bro the camaro let alone a gt stang ot scatpack. Oh my days.... it all adds up now the math checks out this is slowfag cope but you paid more for the honor.
No car? didn't read
Thank you kind stranger for fighting busriding bitches, a heckin' updoot to you!
>all these brokie incels talking about
>"muh 0-60!"
>"muh quarter mile!"
Nobody cares you little poorfag. You're just a jealous crab in the bucket loser and always will be. Learn to code
Also I'm probably the only guy ITT in his 20s with a 911
Holy shit that's so fucking ugly I'm glad it's a larp and nobody owns it here
>some brokie incel thinks people care about his opinion
lol your comment is like the equivalent of some homeless bum saying he thinks my Hermes belt is ugly. like ok loser have fun sleeping in your tent tonight in your goodwill clothes lol
>could've this could've that
>so I ride the bus instead
I WALK A LONELY ROAD
THE ONLY ROAD I THOUGHT I'D EVER KNOW
Nope. I'm too poor to afford a Porsche
>thread was pretty good until this corvette retard showed up shitting everything up
curious
You mean the benchracing little carlet BITCH?
Mercedes and BMW are better
ما شاء الله
Kneel untermensch
You first.
mashallah
Fastest street legal car in the world is a mercedes... sorry poorschenaggers there is a reason Hitler drives a rode in a Mercedes and had Porsche design the car for poors and reject his shitty tank.
Could it be because Mercedes had existed for decades prior and actually made cars in the 1930s?
#1 around the ring by a mile fastest street legal car in the world.... you are just coping Mercedes is the better brand.
>275 units at a price of US$2.72 million per unit
>engine ripped straight out of an F1 car
>bare minimum for road legality and suspension travel to do a lap at the ring
There's a reason nobody cares or talks about it.
ahhh I love the cope, I would cope too if I was a simp for rebadged VWs..... You are the inferior German brand we sell more and we make better here at mercedes, poorschefags need not apply, #1 time on the ring seethe about it more.
>we
This much cope, oh look a mercedes tank, considered one of the best in all of history!
I care about a tank about as much as you care about being a contributing member of society. Mercedes makes bloated GT cars with overwhelming tech bullshit that breaks and bankrupts you.
Can't hear you untermensch.... but what I can see from up here when you're all the way down there is coping and a severe overdose of it.
This is an 18+ website
Why are you here then?
I'm over 60 years old, you're in MY thread young man.
You smell like the goat you fucked Habibi
You might as well be ranking power levels of superheroes you bing bing wahoo homosexual. You'll never sit in the seat of any of the cars mentioned ITT.
The RB19 is faster :^)
>f1
>street legal
I see now why Porsches tiger was rejected and he was forced to build the poverty car.
>lost to a softdrink manufacturer
Try again sweaty
#1 on the street legal ring is the be all end all, this level of coping is just pathetic.
You can't buy that car, it's not a question of money when production is that limited. So your street legal assertion is meaningless and is why it's never discussed on LULZ. Merc took a race car and made it 'street legal' so they could cheese the ring but the fact remains nothing has gone around the ring faster than a Porsche 919. The AMG one isn't even as fast as the 40 year old 956s.
Wall of text. They are still #1 all that matters. You lose.
Reading too hard for Grug?
It's not even German
>be ross brawn
>buy honda's F1 team
>merc buys you out
>resign
>merc loses to soft drinks and honda
kek
doesn't that mean by his metric it's not german either and irrelevant? Keep that same energy naggers.
>buy F1 team based entirely in UK
>use that team to build your 'street legal' meme hypercar
>heh looks like we're the best kraut engineers pooorsche better luck next time
They're #1 using the strat, and it has you seething that the brand you simp for is #2. The Rings King is Mercedes you can come at that at any angle and they will still be on top with you sucking on Mercedes toes. show me your next copioid.
5:19:546, come back when mercedes can beat that time. This is the Porsche thread btw.
That's not on the list, it's a cope, you are #2 on the street legal list and that's all that matters
Here's the list.
That is A list but not THE list that matters, which is this list
after a therapy session and when you learn to grapple with it come back and start another thread and I will bully you back to therapy again.
sandnaggers opinions don't matter
No it's the sandnagger seethe thread clearly
>over 100 replies worth of seethe
porsche owners were all having a gentlemanly chat until all the non porsche owners got here lmao
why does it cause so much seethe
The badge is pretty cool looking, they hate what they can't have.
Mogged by the mercedes badge, ferrari and mustangs have a better horse badge
Mentally ill
This is your brain when you're duped by marketing. you actually get a dopamine rush from a badge that represents rounded insect looking shitmobiles.
Because I have a positive opinion about the design of the badge because it has the coat of arms for Stuttgart? Yeah you're mentally ill, stop responding to me nutjob.
>it has the coat of arms for Stuttgart
Yeahhhhh stop replying you're obviously a whackjob for having autistics spasms when you see a badge. Cons0000m somewhere else fag.
>UHHH DID YOU JUST SAY YOU LIKED THE LOOK OF SOMETHING
MEDS
>nerd nagger actually trying to give me background on the logo
>feels autistic spasms of fuzz when he looks at a logo
Shut up.
Such a mouthy little bitch, bring those DSL closer to this dick, sandnagger slave.
Sperg out more. You get warm feelings over a badge you autistic fuck.
I like the look of something and you're having a meltdown over that fact. You're my fucking nagger bitch. Keep responding because I told you to.
You're on the leash her dog. Keep telling me about the crest maybe tell me the meaning behind the colors or whatever? Tell why each pattern of this emblem gives you butterflies you autistic fucking bastard
You'll respond to this because I told you to. Keep at it, bitch.
Haha the autistic fuck gave up, hes a broken bastard. I'd bee too if I simped for the #2 spot and a rebadged beetle
He's gonna respond again because I own him.
>glorified beemer
nah
What I have learned from this thread is a base model c8 is faster than 99% of anything porsche makes and Mercedes is the better german brand. Very Informative and productive.
Whatever lets junior rest soundly tonight is best for the board.
It's senior to you, but yeah I accept your raising of the white flag.
Post proof of AARP membership or fuck off Dale.
what's the best color?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/indzoJ5IhrI
none, dead thread none of the porschenaggers are actually euro so they're all asleep
I'd rather have a porsche
I'd rather have a BMW Mercedes or a C8
What do you have?
A BMW, a Mercedes, and a C8.
Nah
Yah.
heh, nice digits
serious question, do you guys wrench on them yourselves or do you usually just pay someone to do it? I know some repairs on my car sometimes I just feel really unmotivated and pay someone else to deal with the mess and I feel like if I were rich enough to actually afford a porsche (and drive the shit out of it) I'd probably only do this more.
Would be pretty cool to see the innards if you do wrench though
Any odd/unusual problems or problems that seem to be limited to porsches during ownership? How reliable have they been for you guys? If you do wrench on them how do they compare to other cars in terms of access, ease of repairs etc.
likely won't ever own one in my lifetime, but curious nonetheless
When I had my two 944s I worked on them quite a bit. Replaced the head on the S and did a complete motor teardown on the turbo. The newer cars are a bit different so it's not a great comparison to start with however. On my GT4 it's going to be harder to access things especially without a lift so I don't plan to do anything until the warranty expires if I still have it by then. My best advice is to go lurk the model specific forums out there, the common issues that pop up will have a lot of info on how to deal with them. You'll get a much larger sample set that way especially among those that have owned multiple as well as other makes.
nice. interesting info on the engine out stuff
>wrench on them
basic service on a 996/997 is pretty easy
pad changes on brembos is just pulling a pin and with a wide/shallow enough drainpan you can change the oil without jacking it up.
some service requires a $100 scan tool dongle (durametric/etc) beyond your normal obd2 reader
having a lift for engine out stuff would be nice - as you need ~30inches of clearance to get the drivetrain out ... more with a hydraulic table. This is kinda beyond most jack stand/jack heights, so you have to jack the car up in stages and get it under taller 5ton jacks/wood/etc.
i'm not sure 991/992s will be as diy-friendly tho
997s are so pretty
next time i move and get space for a second car ill try to find a minty fresh carrera s
yes
>911 post number
I've got a 987 boxster and a macan, more of a poorsche situation but saving to get a 911 eventually.
>out for a saturday night cruise
>random dude at gas station wants to take photos of my car
Nice
inb4 he posts it here and says it's his car lol