Anyone either live in newly conquered Russian territory or have friends/family who do? I'm curious since I haven't heard any firsthand accounts of people living there. How is morale? Do most people approve of Russia coming in? Is it as destroyed as the west is claiming (omfg Russia is razing all the cities!)? Is Russia providing services yet?
I’m pretty sure they don’t have internet access dude, and they live in occupied Ukraine.
Crimea, DPR and LPR aren't "occupied Ukraine". To believe that you have to believe that no people, ever, have the right to self-determination. Other parts of Ukraine where Russia is technically are, but Ukraine will never get them back so it's a moot point.
Plus, as a Russian speaker, why the hell would you want to live in a country that hates you and discriminates against you?
If Belgium banned French speakers from working in government jobs and banned French from schools, would you find it surprising that the French speakers wanted to leave Belgium or join France?
>They're not occupied, they just have a mongol horde sitting on their land they're fine
Probably the smartes muttnagger
>To believe that you have to believe that no people, ever, have the right to self-determination.
>Other parts of Ukraine where Russia is technically are, but Ukraine will never get them back so it's a moot point.
I guess you're allowed to be a Hypocrite if it supports Russia
they never declared independence. If you don't have the balls to say you're leaving, you never left.
>they never declared independence.
what regions are you referring too?
Everything Russia controls now outside of LPR/DPR. Basically the stuff between Crimea and Donbass
this nigga support aztlan and deseret and want to bomb whole ass cities in support of them lmao
>this nigga support aztlan
I doubt he supports it
It already exists de facto
Once we balkanize it will exist de jure
It will take decades to retake
>and deseret
Why not support it now?
It would be super majority White
It would deprive zog of another piece of the tax base
That would weaken their ability to use infinity money printer to genocide us
I'm fully up for the US to balkanize, even if it means I'm displaced.
>I'm fully up for the US to balkanize, even if it means I'm displaced.
This
There will be several regions that will be de facto ethno states
The game is on once one turns de jure
Why is it that Greeks and Turks can handle population overlap like civilized adults, and why even Americans either move to a red/blue state or shut up and put up with where they are, but Slavs on the other hand act like subhuman Africa naggers and refuse to expatriate when they were the ones that set the borders to begin with? It's almost like Slavs are actual subhumans below even mutts in my country.
Also how literally everything coming out of both sides is a lie
different peoples coexisting in a democracy doesn't happen very often, or for very long.
>Why is it that Greeks and Turks can handle population overlap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus_problem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey#:~:text=The%20Greek%E2%80%93Turkish%20population%20exchange,occupation%20in%20the%20defeated%20Ottoman
retard americans should be required to ask for reading materials before posting you all are so fucking ignorant it hurts my eyes to read
Yes Cyrus is still a problem, if the Turks went back it wouldn't be a problem. It worked in most cases but where they didn't do it, it didn't work. Not hard to understand, way to go you just proved my point and like every insufferable modern Kraut homosexual you go for my flag as if that makes you automatically correct. Go worship Grand Mufti Scholz like a good little boy.
Not an argument, Mohammed.
You’re a fucking idiot m8
>Greeks and Turks
>like civilized adults
lmao what
Yes when even they were able to do something responsible, then you really know that the Slavs are worse than them.
>Greeks and Turks can handle population overlap like civilized adults
Holy shit lmao
They are occupied.
You cannot believe any Russian goon squad backed votes with no international monitoring. It's all bullshit, same as knowing Putin or a puppet is perpetually in power.
Sure wish we had some international monitoring of the 2020 election in america
Anyone who tells me "buh democracy!" at this point is a fucking retard.
Journalists and observers had access and US presidents DO democratically change. With recounts. Russia's don't.
If you wish to register more monitoring for the next election in the USA, go ahead.
We let people dump ballots into unmonitored mailboxes.
It is costly and hard to inject multiple percent of votes by mailing them from everywhere filled out with the needed voter ID and all that, and you still can't easily defeat people taking samples and asking back for verification.
I was more bothered when they used voting machines without secondary paper trails and such. But sure, lobby for any improvements you can come up with.
>You cannot believe any Russian goon squad backed votes
Then Believe hohols cutting water/electricity to those regions and bragging about locals deserving all the bombings and calling them racial slurs.
I am sure Russia will keep water/gas supplied when China, Japan, India or NATO takes 2-3 Oblasts and no one will call anyone names.
Russia literally supplies Ukrainwe with electricity and gas right now. Your vile nagger mind simply can not comprehend normal humane behavior.
Russia supplies Russia(n occupied Ukraine), duh.
It would not supply China occupied Sakhalin or NATO occupied Moscow, duh.
By that rationale Chechnya should have been able to go independent.
Chechens had national republic with all the perks. They just had to chimp out for no reason except nationalist ambition.
>They just had to chimp out for no reason except nationalist ambition.
So like LPR/DPR?
>So like LPR/DPR?
since when are a bunch of proxy vatniks a nation ?
no, he means they were granted autonomy (1st chechen war) and then they invaded peaceful regions of russia so they were suppressed
dnr and lnr didnt invade ukraine first
>By that rationale Chechnya should have been able to go independent.
I agree, I see no reason they should be part of Russia. Russia is a hodgepodge mess of cultures, and will eventually balkanize. Putin just loves the gibs from having vassals. That being said, the true Russia of white(?) slavs would comprise eastern Ukraine and western Russia.
Fuck of mutt. You don't know anything.
Why do you want to be in the same country with a Muslim state, or Chinks in the east? I mean, it's nice to have power, but that's not the only point of a state or a nation. The muslims and the mongoloids have nothing in common with you other than they can speak Russian as a second language. It's like arguing that Mexico and random Central American countries could be part of the USA.
By that reasoning the US should balkanize into 20 different coutnries
>https://t.me/yurasumy
Besides political opinions Americans are almost 100% homogenous. Mass media ensured that. We larp that we are all very different, but that's because we have no frame of reference as no one ever leaves the country. We all speak the same, consume the same, have the same traditions etc. There are more differences between east and west Germany than there are between Alabama and Minnesota. We aren't really even that different from Canada.
Note: I mean no differences among whites. Of course the different races are different. Absent massive immigration I don't think the left would ever be strong enough to warrant balkanization, but here we are.
Don’t ever compare me to a fucking Canadian again
>Bill from Idaho oblast has very strong opinions on the legitimacy of the Russian occupation
are you suggesting I'm really a Russian shill?
>are you suggesting I'm really a Russian shill?
>Ukraine has been shelling Donbass for 8 years
For a bit, I had doubts, holy shit. I've really been lacking, Vlad.
too bad you're a mint toothpaste and not a burger, otherwise I could throw out enough obscure burger references to convince you of the opposite.
>all Americans MUST love globohomo, all Americans MUST hate Russia, all Americans MUST believe their mainstream media
Go back to /k/
I didn't mention /k/, Grigory.
How new are you? One week on /misc/? Lurk four years before posting
I've been here long before /misc/ existed, Grigory. Where are you from (besides St. Petersburg)?
I have not left Texas in six years. But in your mind, everyone from the West should be a very good goy like yourself.
>he doesn't understand
You gave it the ol' college try, my Russian friend from Houston oblast.
Okay okay you got me, I actually am a Russian shill. In fact, most of /misc/ is just Russians with VPNs. It's super top secret, so don't let anyone know that I told you
It's actually very far from being a secret.
a long series of views on obscure eastern european politics that directly line up with Kremlin propaganda doesn't mean I'm russian
This is about as believable as the "Poland will invade Ukraine" shit you came out with a month or so ago
Based. They voted for it, they should be allowed to leave. The glownaggers will seethe
Not anymore
The Russians freed them from ukrainian occupation
Didn't Elon Musk offer some kind of free internet - Starlink?
Russian comm companies have already set up shop in most of those cities and ukrainian ones are only just starting to leave. Do you think we kill everyone with ua passport and cut every cable if we smell some salo on it?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoshWDzYyj7c1UscSjoeN_g/videos
You can check out this man's blog, he's a farmer from Melitopol.
What do Russians think about the war?
old farts is pissing their pants from happiness, i'm planning on leaving this shithole in ukraine when the war is over
anyone who shills for russia without getting paid for it like pushilin is a absolute idiot.
> How is morale
normal
> Do most people approve of Russia coming in?
Yeah, most people are pro-russian
> Is it as destroyed as the west is claiming
Yes. Ukrainain part of Lugansk oblast is completely wiped out. 2014 area is fucking shithole, but intact
t. Lugansk
> i'm planning on leaving this shithole in ukraine when the war is over
you mean you're leaving the country or moving to the Ukrainian part?
are you a Russian speaker or a Surzhyk speaker?
He is obviously a Russian speaker
Lugansk isn't 100% Russian speakers, and I'd assume the non-Russian speakers are much, much more likely to gtfo as soon as they can.
I don't know how to tell you this, but 100% of all Ukraine is Russian-speaking. Even in Moldova 99% know Russian.
they know russian but it doesnt make it their primary language. most of kyrgysztan is also russan speaking, they are not russians
They were literally forced to learn Russian. I can barely speak Russian but I never went to school in ukraine so I wasn't taught it. I'm from western ukraine and the one day I spent in a classroom we were forced to speak Russian. This was kindergarten, I never went back. Just told my grandma I'd rather start school in America since we had the green card. It wasn't cause they forced me to speak Russian I just thought it pointless if I was to learn English soon. Either way this was post soviet ukraine, like 2001 and Russian was mandatory in all schools even in the west. Forced russification is a thing.
>2001 and Russian was mandatory
Cut you nagger bs. I Finished uki school in 2001. They were already crushing all russian, primary schools were hohol only, new high school books were in hohol only. We had 1 hour of ru lang per week (and like 6 hours of hohol lang) and ru literature was squized into foreign literature class. Hohols even tried to rename my hometown.
why would they try to force you to speak your own language with a gay polish accent?
ukrainian speaker would write luhansk, not Lugansk
He wouldn't, you absolute nagger, g is literally the same letter in Russian as in ukrainian dialect too.
Look at the map in op post. Proud ukrainian would type luhansk and transliterate that from ukrainian 'лyхaнcьк'. Russian would never type luhansk casually because it's painful for ears
бля я бы зaпocтил лyгaндoнcкий пaccпopт нo нe хoчy чтoбы /chug/ cлил мeня в MГБ. A тo хyй их знaeт, oни флaг пo pacпoлoжeнию звeзд в cвoe вpeмя нaшли. A я eщe пoжить хoчy.
Hyжнo былo eщe в фeвpaлe yeзжaть к нaм. Пepeждaл бы, пoтoм eхaл бы кyдa хoчeшь
Пиздaбoл, cocи хyй. Бaндepa пoлyтpoмeтpoвый дoлбaёб инцeл
>Proud ukrainian would type luhansk and transliterate that from ukrainian 'лyхaнcьк'.
Luhansk is literally spelled the same in Ukrainian, they just pronounce more Gs like you do in the word accountant. Are you really that retarded to know nothing of their language?
Lugansk - Лyгaнcк (rus)
Luhans'k - Лyгaнcьк (ukr)
sorry I missed the myakiznak, but I meant Ukraine doesn't spell it with an X as the retard was suggesting.
It spelled with sound close to something between 'г' and 'х' and with tendency to soften sounds it's closer to 'х'
spelled means "written", not how it's pronounced.
Ok, my bad. Checked in dictionary.
btw I'm sure ukrainian would write luhansk. It's the same nonsence like kyiv or dniepro
probably, but if they weren't thinking they could write a G. Just like when anglophones don't think we write there/they're/their or the French mix up parler/parlé/parlée
There are ukrainian nationalists which are baka russian speakers
It's still a G in Ukrainian, possible he was transliterating without thinking.
Russia diaspora fagget confirmed. Kys with your kike subversion.
I studied Russian in college, homosexual. My Russian is still shit though. I managed to learn French fluently, but I imagine you can only speak burger.
I despite surzhyk. I speak Russian daily and also fluent in Ukrainian. Moving to Ukraine.
I'm hiding. That shit is real as it gets. Draft squads are recruit males just from the streets and also from their jobplaces and sending to the frontlines.
It's not about language, Lugansk is 90% russian speaking city. Divide is political. Most people support Putin, less Ukraine. But it's hard to calculate because being openly pro ukrainian here is basically a death sentence. We had a guy who made a tik tok to support ukraine and pro russians rat him to local kgb.
how can you be pro-ukraine when they shelled your grannies for 8 years lmfao what a total cuck
Yeah I'm sure anon's babushka was personally shelled for 8 years. That's why all the videos vatniks post are from the same two bombing campaigns during 2014
LE VATNIK!!!!
>begging the question about why someone would support a country if your hyperbolic claims were real
>gets deboonked
>tries to reboonk with more hyperbolics
Vlad, if you're trying to fool anons, you should probably not do it in the presence of anons who live in the place you claim was under 8 le years of shelling le donbas. You probably shouldn't directly question him about your fake claims.
>Ukraine could have let DPR/LPR leave, said no NATO, and avoided the entire war.
Yeah for how long? Russia is currently in the process of annexing Kherson. Would they have totally not gone for that if Ukraine just rolled over and let them get banan slice 2? How much of Ukraine should Ukraine give up to Russia in order to avoid war?
>Instead they will basically get millions killed, their army destroyed, and have billions of damage done to their country, only to have a worse outcome in the end.
Russia will do untold amounts of damage, and then they will be made to pay the price for that damage. We've already seized hundreds of billions of dollars of Russian foreign assets, and more will likely be taken as reparations when Ukraine wins.
>The spartans will come to our rescue! The gods will save us
And NATO is already providing Ukraine with a hundred billion dollars of materiel assets, including better equipment than the Russians have, and in such magnitude that the Russians have abandoned old strategies. They've been unable to rely on their helicopters, and planes to push into Ukrainian controlled territory. They have abandoned the use of tanks and IFVs to spearhead their assaults, and soon their artillery will be outmatched by NATO artillery. They asked and we said 'Yes'.
>don't be retarded
Tell Russia. They're about to have Konigsberg retaken by the Germans because they can't accept a graceful defeat
>Konigsberg retaken by the Germans
this will never happen in a million years
>How much of Ukraine should Ukraine give up to Russia in order to avoid war?
The historically Russian parts, filled with Russian speakers who support Russia. I mean, if I was Canadian I would be elated to kick out Quebec.
>Russia will do untold amounts of damage, and then they will be made to pay the price for that damage. We've already seized hundreds of billions of dollars of Russian foreign assets, and more will likely be taken as reparations when Ukraine wins.
First, Russia has actually made money on the war due to FX and oil (that surprised me). Second, Ukraine CANT win. Russia will go nuclear before that happens. If Ukraine wins it's the end of Putin and the ruling class, and they will destroy the world before that happens. That's why that shouldn't be your goal. (see Kissinger's comments). If your goal here is Russian humiliation, you aren't very smart. At this point, the best Ukraine can hope for is a stalemate, ceding LPR/DPR/Crimea, with guarantees made not to join NATO while Russia agrees to not invade again. Russia would also have to pledge to provide funds to rebuild the parts of Ukraine it attacked or something token like that.
Unless the west directly intervenes, no amount of weapons will save Ukraine. Russia will grind through every military-age male first (at massive cost to themselves)
what many fail to realise is that being a russian speaker doesnt make them pro russian at all
it didn't used to, but we managed to bring Ukrainian nationalists to power in 2014. Imagine living in a multi-lingual country and pic related happening. How would Quebec deal with French being banned in schools?
What many people fall to see is the different stages of the war.
Stage 1 was a more precise attack. Russia went after very specfic military targets and didn't really fully commit, hence the "special military operation". They basically bluffed and tried to scare Ukraine to sign a peace deal within the first weeks. Ukraine didn't and Russian loses were coniserable. Additional problem: Ukrainan military was well hiden between residential areas attacking their tanks. Russia at that stage was trying to minimise civilian deaths to act as saviours.
We are at stage 2, where Russia after Ukraine got too cocky and didnt want to agree a peace deal, is attacking AFU unceasingly with as much it got without declaring officially war. They are destroying any building now as long as that means destroying the enemy - time to consider if a building could have civilians or not is over. It they think a building has military personnel they bomb it. End of story.
Ukraine can't win in this stage 2 no matter how many weapons the West supplies them. Russia is after all an artillery army (vs. Naval US army). The longer Zelensky doesnt want to negotiate the more land will be obliterated and conquered by Russia.
Get another booster you globohomo freak.
>no argument
To be fair, Ukraine is to Russia what Kuwait was to Iraq. Ukraine is an artificial country which didn't exist properly until 1991. They don't have a proper ethnogenesis. Tell us serioulsy, which is the difference between an Ukrainian and a Russian.
Why should Canada and the US be different countries? Why should the US have left the UK? Why are Austria and Germany separate.
Sometimes even people with similar languages and cultures don't want to be part of the same country. People with different languages and cultures basically NEVER want to be part of the same country.
>Ukraine is an artificial country which didn't exist properly until 1991
Ukraine existed before Russia did. Russian shills STILL regurgitate this shit.
Russians are kept ignorant of their own history. The name Ukrainian as a nationality existed hundreds of years before Russian did. The eternal Muscovite seethes hard over this.
you are despicable retard swine who thinks being ignorant loudly makes up for not having an argument
kys vatnik cumdrinker
why don't you cry about it you hysterical homosexual? you couldn't even point to the ukraine on a map prior to february 2022 but here you are farting all the cum compacted in your gay ass onto a topic you know nothing about.
>why don't you cry about it you hysterical homosexual
kek you're the one crying right now fagget
> you couldn't even point to the ukraine on a map prior to february 2022
i've been to ukraine you tim hortons consuming subhuman
>1pbtid
>no argument
>just claims that I don't have an argument
Alright then
nagger you're the one with the audacity to come onto /misc/ with an uncontroversial, normie-tier opinion literally indistinguishable from one you'd find on reddit or CBC and tell others that they're wrong. armed with a bunch of made up bullshit about muh vatniks you think you can argue with people who've paid attention for 8 years?
>8 years?
kek on the ball since the odessa massacre ?
> the audacity to come onto /misc/
says the vatnik cum connoisseur
half the cunts in here were literally 12 years old when the 2014 conflict was being covered on /misc/. They have no idea about the context or how much it was covered here. They just got teleported from being a literal kid into a know it all zoomer that thinks its started in Feb when the western kike press started to shill about it.
It's a paid shill or a Ukrainian harlot like Chrystia I remember eight years too, and I am sad that the zoomerkeks refuse to do researc
Tits or gtfo Chrystia
he literally has no idea what he's talking about so he's likely not a diasporafag, prolly just a run of the mill shitposting leaf. it's like running into fags on /k/ who claim to have been around forever but don't know what the clankening is
Ivan: nobody but you is bringing up /k/. Let it go.
Maybe /k/, but its sad to see the fuckers here go full shit on Russia with no context from someone who watched the Maidan CIA revolution and saw the corpses of White kids strewn on the streets by israelites covered in Swastikas
I hope the war ends soon and the Donbass area returns to its home
it's one thing for posters like OP to talk about it, i might not agree with him entirely but reading his posts he clearly is informed enough to have his own opinions, which is way better than retards who weren't even in their teens during euromaidan screaming about vatniks and regurgitating legacy media headlines
Hey, Ivan. You never answered me whether you get extra pay to shill on the weekends or whether you're a contractor.
And yes: I know it's you.
>you haven't paid attention like "we" have for 8 years
holy shit as if you couldn't become any more cringe
8 years not only wasted but that has also rotted your brain
thanks for the proper zoo experience though
move back to ukraine homosexual
seek help you deranged homosexual
>Artyom has pictures of dead children saved to post as part of his shill job, and posts them for 8 years a day, and goes home at the end of the day after having posted pictures of dead children for 10 hours in that day, to play CS:GO
That shit is a russian meme, just like the Holohoax and Jasenovac
Yeah they were
>DOMBING BOMBAS for 8 years.
>Dombili bambas 8 lyet.
Retard fell for the classic russian propaganda. If they were shelling for 8 years, there would be nothing left of luhansk or donetsk.
LE HECKIN CLASSIC VATNIKERINO PROPAGANDATINO XDDDDDD
I think 80% of people were pro Russia before the special operation. Now 100% who stayed there support Russia. Most of them saw themselves American shilling and ukies clearly firing artillery on civilians. Moral is not great, not bad. People are mostly concerned about everyday life, were to work, what to eat, how to rebuild a house etc etc.
Lol wtf. Are you really planing to move there?*~~) I think you are trolling
Based. I support your future invasion of cuckronto and am eagerly waiting for our liberation with my Mosin in hand
How come you ain't in the army cowboy?
I thought they conscripted 3very living soul in donetsk and lugansk? (Men)
DPR mobilized, LPR didn't afaik
Average amerimutt on here got convinced by Russian shills that Russia is amazing. They are very stupid.
Go fix your nagger of a country first.
He's obviously a shill or a pigger refugee hiding from draft.
Another Russian idiot thinks everyone in Europe loves his pozzed shithole
>Muh HUWAYT trad European values
>....
>Values of putting dildos up your ass and cutting your balls off
🙂
Yes based mongols have a history of making muslims like you seethe. We remember Baghdad
>Keeping gay porn on his PC
>80% of it are hohols the other 20% hohol refugees in Russia doing their usual work being gay as fuck
>gay Russians is a Ukrainian op. All Russians are heterosexual
I'm sorry your army is homosexual central
>Projecting this hard
this hard
Except its the same 5 or 6 mêmes we see, this one is a perfect example.
Its this or The faggy Canadians in skirts or the pile or russian boys fucking or the redsit tranny with a pink rifle..
Fuck im so tired of it
Those 3 in the back are gunna buck break that boi after cake aren't they?
It's amazing how russias tantrum is screaming about the fags as the only means of "LOOK AT HOW BAD WEST IS", all the while ignoring the quality of life, security, safety, technological/medical progress/access, universities, ability to travel, salaries, etc etc etc. Truly pathetic.
Moscow metro NY metro
Now post the rest of Russia
Top: soulless
Bottom: soul
No one wants to live in an Apple store
People don't live in metro
>No one wants to live in an Apple store
I do if it the alternative is my house smelling like piss and being infested with naggers.
I don’t want to catch AIDS breathing the air in the lowlifedness shithole either. Fuck NY.
Yes, but New York subway is old. Also I remember it getting flooded by a hurricane...!
moscow is soulless
new york is soul
I've been to that station many times, its not that bad. Also, NYC has 10s of thousands of people from all walks of life passing through that station a day. Not defending globohomo but you can't compare Moscow to NYC
you absolutely can. Moscow has twice the riders as NYC and it's only 30 years newer. There's no reason NYC can't fix that shit with the highest taxes in the country.
Um, NYC cant fix shit because its a corrupt nagger infested shithole run by israelite.
but does Moscow have twice the naggers? Just please be nice to NYC, its a fun city and its the only place I can be a straight up asshole to anyone I want and it being a social taboo.
>MUH JEBUS CHYTRUS X—-D
Fuck off you stupid mongoloid.
This is he reality. Honestly I would choose the left. Much rather have the collapsing west slowly try to subvert me rather than instant destruction from Russia
maybe he's a gimp? Maybe he's a tranny? Maybe he's, dare I say it, actually a woman. Plenty of options.
Russia sucks, but less than Ukraine, especially for Russian speakers.
How would you feel if you grew up in Finland and the Finns removed Swedish as a national language, forced you to go to school in Suomi, and fired you if you happened to work for the government and only spoke Swedish? Wouldn't you want to join Sweden?
Moscow has more shitskins than Kiev. Maybe that israelite leader wants to change it but so far he hasnt been as good as israelitetin at it
>How would you feel if you grew up in Finland and the Finns removed Swedish as a national language, forced you to go to school in Suomi, and fired you if you happened to work for the government and only spoke Swedish? Wouldn't you want to join Sweden?
The dirty colonist homosexuals should go back to where they came from.
>The dirty colonist homosexuals should go back to where they came from.
See, and when you act like that, that'll make them the Swedish Finns say "fuck these cromagnon homosexuals", secede, and get Sweden to save their asses.
Your mentality is exactly what leads to shit like this. It's a luxury belief you can only hold if your military can beat the other side's. Unfortunately Ukraine is dumb as shit in this regard. It reminds me of the video of the pitbull who attacks a tiger.
Butthurt belters lack any sense of pragmatism. They're still stuck on the idea of isolated ethnostates their intellectuals dreamt up in the 19th century.
They were elated when Russia got sanctioned, but now prices across the board have skyrocketed and the idiots can't seem to understand that you can't go balls deep with sanctions and expect everything to remain the same.
It's going to be an interesting late Autumn this year, when the heating bills start coming.
It's European autism. After WWI and WWII the borders were drawn up in a way that slices of land that were historically one groups's went to another country, along with the Native people still living there
The clever and humane thing to do would be to give these people their own Quebecs but instead the Euros antagonize other Whites like they are negroes and provoke rebellion
Fucking keks forget this led to WWII as well, Hitler's excuse for attacking the Poles was the fact that they massacred the Germans living on Polish territory
Naturally the clever thing to do would not be to antagonize
I'm surprised fins didn't do this lmao. If those swedish colonists lived in some slavic country they would be already raped to death 😀 and for sure wouldn't be allowed to speak swedish or pretend to be some elite like they do in Finland
Even in 1750 the population of Finland was just around 400 000 so there wasn't much Fingols could do when the Swedisht imperialists came hundreds of years before. In any case they are a tolerable people due to mixing with Fingols and being similar to begin with. They just stay in their villages and don't bother us. Swedshit elite is a thing of the past like Greek civilization. Picrel is percentage of swedshits in Finland. Also don't kid yourself, Slavshits took a thousand years to genocide Fingols from Russia.
>you have to speak the country's official language to work a government job
Holy shit this is literally a holocaust
So it's cool if Belgium bans French from schools and forces all government employees to only speak Dutch? Or Canada to ban French.
The thing that irks me is most of the people who these demonic natsec state creatures claim are "Putin lackeys" really are not and just ask basic questions with basic anti-war rhetoric, but there is a subset of people even bigger names who really are with the constant Russia dicksucking while throwing a few criticisms here and there, but the message overall is that Ukraine ebil ebil nadzee country and Putin baste. These retards are what makes the rest of the critics look bad and give these shrieking natsec israeli whores justification for their arguments. I'm talking about retards like Robert "Rabbi" Barnes, who actually is very knowledgeable on law but he thinks he's a renaissance man and an expert on every field possible and he just runs his mouth like a moron.
You go the fuck back to the country you belong in? Yes that's entirely fair. It's like the other anon said this is the type of shit that will justify the Aztlan crap.
how do i apply to get paid to post pro russia shilling
Shut the fuck up retard. The USSR left you with a population of close to 50 million and one of the strongest industrial bases in Europe. You had every fucking chance and means (provided by Russia to your meme banana republic), plus Crimea, to make Ukraine a functional state. Instead you turned it into an Albania-tier shithole famous for prostitution and one of the lowest GDPs in Europe. Millions of people left that shithole before there was ever any war. You are simply garbage and a meme "nation" that should never again be in charge of anything, ever. Don't even get me started on your schizo, multiple-personality-disorder-tier nationalism, which is one of the biggest freakshows of self-denial and schizophrenia in Europe. You also seem to love genocides and cannibalism for some reason??
Compared to you, Russia is the epitome of civilization and progress. Thank God they finally grew some balls and are putting a stop to the circus. Still, they should be firm but fair. They should leave you a little reservation somewhere between Lavov and Kiev where you can enjoy your <1k-per-capita GDP, LARP as Vikings, and pick the fruits of your ~~*euro-atlantic integrations*~~
>Russia is so great
>they gave you everything
Memeflag off vatnik. You left Ukraine nothing but dilapidated infrastructure and intense commie era corruption issues. Then immediately after they broke away you started salami slicing their country. We've seen what hundreds of years of vatnik rule does do a nation and we're ending it. Im so happy my tax dollars are finally financing a good war.
your tax dollars are financing the destruction of Ukraine. Our plan is to wear Russia down by basically getting millions of Ukrainians killed and destroying their country as collateral damage.
You could argue it's a good strategy against Russia, but it sure as shit is the worst possible outcome for Ukraine.
>destruction of Ukraine
Shut your dumb mouth if only stupid things are going to come out of it.
>hurr not letting Russia annex the country is destroying it
The country is being attacked by an invading force. No logical, reasonable person can pin any of the blame on any effective actions taken to help the defenders. It's not being destroyed by 'us'. It's being destroyed by Russia, who'd rather rule a pile of rubble than let their former puppet regime go. The totality of the blame goes to the invader.
>Our plan is to wear Russia down by basically getting millions of Ukrainians killed and destroying their country as collateral damage.
OUR plan is to provide Ukraine as much materiel resources as we can muster without 'forcing' Russia to go nuclear while sanctioning military adjacent fields and economic inputs to Russia. If you have a better idea that isn't cuckhold shit like surrendering Ukraine wholesale to Russia, I'd like to hear it. But if you're just going to try to blame others for the destruction Russia is factually causing, you should go find another retard, because I'm not buying it
>gets confronted with rampant homosexuality in his own military
>projects by telling others that it's actually their military that have rampant homosexuality
>proves this by posting a picture of performative fag enabling
>not even from the army of the country flag he's replying to
Sorry, the US army flies fag flags while Russians assfuck each other in their barracks and whore out the young pretty ones to rich homosexuals, so the Canadian army is gay and I'm just projecting
Trying harder to be edgy and seething doesn’t actually change anything.
Ukraine could have let DPR/LPR leave, said no NATO, and avoided the entire war. That would have been the best outcome for Ukraine. They would get rid of their citizens who basically weren't nationalistic (in the Ukrainian sense) and end up stronger because of it.
Instead they will basically get millions killed, their army destroyed, and have billions of damage done to their country, only to have a worse outcome in the end.
Look up the siege of Melos, it's very apt here.
>Athens invades Melos, a tiny island
>Athens:"Yea we're invading because we can, we have no justification"
>Melos:"But we are neutral in your war with Sparta. What you are doing is unjust! We cannot kneel to injustice! Moreover, surrendering is cowardly! "
>Athens:"Who cares about justice, submit or die".
>Melos:"The spartans will come to our rescue! The gods will save us"
>Athens invades, kills all the men and enslaves the women and children
>The end
The moral of the story is don't be retarded.
Great analogy and fair argument. The only problem here is that they still ultimately see both groups (Russians and Ukrainians) as both coming from the same group and that they might do better together, so with that in mind, how do we know that the eastern provinces are really all that they want?
Of course there also is the bullcrap like Ukraine not following the treaty that they agreed to.
>The only problem here is that they still ultimately see both groups (Russians and Ukrainians) as both coming from the same group and that they might do better together, so with that in mind, how do we know that the eastern provinces are really all that they want?
We don't, but without the LPR/DPR issue and Nato issue, do you think Russia would have been able to justify their invasion domestically? They will probably take Russian speaking parts, but taking the now-hyper-nationalistic Ukrainian speaking west would be more trouble than it's worth.
In the end they'll get Novorussia and a treaty that precludes Ukraine from joining NATO forever.
>We don't, but without the LPR/DPR issue and Nato issue, do you think Russia would have been able to justify their invasion domestically?
Nah not at all, you're right. But that always felt like a joke to me, it's ridiculous to think that they'll have those be independent countries when they don't have a unique cultural identity to do so. Russia would obviously annex them in a heartbeat because they can't survive independently.
>but taking the now-hyper-nationalistic Ukrainian speaking west would be more trouble than it's worth.
>In the end they'll get Novorussia and a treaty that precludes Ukraine from joining NATO forever.
You're probably right but I don't trust them to be smart lol. The question is if other neighbors will join NATO anyway and if they do, all of this will be ridiculous because they'll have more NATO neighbors including Estonia which they apparently never gave much of a shit about. It was never about NATO on their border, it was about NATO in Ukraine specifically.
>it's ridiculous to think that they'll have those be independent countries when they don't have a unique cultural identity to do so
yeah that's how we feel about Ukraine here.
Not entirely wrong but you can always create one, but the one they created is so fucking fake and gay
>but the one they created is so fucking fake and gay
well duh, it was plan B and it was basically administrative areas Putin hoped to reintegrate back into Ukraine on russian terms.
Of course it's not legit states. The again they could be. We had tons of meme republics during civil war of 1918.
>so with that in mind, how do we know that the eastern provinces are really all that they want?
I think GP was
>implying
originally they wanted nothing further. Now they very well might take all of the Black seafront and form a land bridge to tranny moldova. Things have changed.
Putin gave a speech about how Kiev is basically the center of Russia, Russians believe this and it isn't even wrong, it was never just about Donbas dude.
Stuff like this is why the concept of "Russian disinformation" makes me heartily kek, their actual disinformation is so obvious and laughably bad that only the truly gullible actually believe it to the point where it isn't remotely a threat.
This isn't disinformation tho. First russian state was born in Kiev. It was called Ros de Kiev or something like that
It was just called Rus' and Russians have zero connection to it. Its like in the west how Germans larped as Romans.
"Kievan Rus" is a term invented by Russian historians to smuggle in ideas like "novgorod rus" and "moscow rus" which never had any relation to Rus. The descendants of the Rus are Ukrainians. Russians are Muscovites. The word Russia was invented in the 1700s. Its hard to get a hold of the history in English because the history was heavily Russified. Even wikipedia is totally pozzed because it transliterates names, places and events from Russian.
>The word Russia was invented in the 1700s.
this is why hohols are absolute subhumans. You can check medieval russian royal titles (Tsar of Russia) you can check ancient religious titles (mitropolite of Kiev and all Russia) but they will just pretned it's not real lalala Putin putin putin.
>check medieval russian royal titles
minor rurikid vassal of the golden horde ? Muscovites are a product of slavic colonization of ugro-finns and tatars
They were all just local populations that were subjugated and ruled by vikings. Russia is from the 1500s.
>local populations
which arent slavic as in the case of muskovites
I didn't say it was, I'm talking about some of the other vatnik shit, the Kiev stuff is actual history.
>The only problem here is that they still ultimately see both groups (Russians and Ukrainians)
Dude, this is a war between nationalists. Nationalists are braindeads. Despite being literally the same (same language, same ethnicity, same religion) want eachother dead
>Ukraine gets rid of the Azov battalion
>Its a slightly more sophisticated Holodomor 2.0
When are the Ukes going to figure out that its not "like they planned it this way" , no "they did plan it this way", and Biden got his $5 gas. How stupid do you have to be not to realize
>Ukraine has no chance
>By supporting Ukraine you're just getting thousands of Uke conscripts killed.
Correct, if this was any two other similar sized Eastern European countries, sure the one with western support would win, even if it had a shittier military. But in this case...
It would be like thinking Taiwan could beat China if we don't intervene but instead just hand them missiles.
your analogy to melos actually supports ukraine's push to join nato and the EU, as being neutral with such a powerful belligerent neighbour is no guarantee of security.
>Ukraine could have let DPR/LPR leave, said no NATO, and avoided the entire war.
I think you are basically right here, but it is politically impossible to simply cede territory like that. zelensky would have been lynched for it, even if it was the right move. furthermore, as stated above, it would be naive to assume that would guarantee security for the country. Russia already signed agreements gauranteeing ukrainian territorial integrity in exchange for nukes, which they have now obviously reneged on
I forgot to mention this, but the whole 'Give us your nukes and we won't carve up your country. jk' is probably the most important point. Not only was their little annexation of Crimea and glowop of the 'novorussia' movement the thing that started the war, it was also Russia saying that any nuclear disarmament treaties with it are just foreplay for future military action. Now all of Russias smaller neighbors know that only being part of a massive military alliance or having nukes is a good defense against being 'returned' to Russia. I'd be suprised if all the 'stan's and Armenia and Georgia etc aren't taking notes and looking into the feasibility of developing their own nuclear arsenal.
It will if Russia decides to go to war over that Lithuanian blockade.
>The historically Russian parts
There are none. Crimea is historically Tatar, and the Donbas is historically Ukrainian. Both territories were Russified in the 50's through forced deportations and mass migration of Russian workers. Furthermore, the last census before the war put Ukrainian ethnics as the absolute majority of the donbas. That has likely changed since then as Russia and its proxies further engage in genocide and ethnic cleansings of the conquered territories.
>Russian speakers
This isn't a good proxy for support for integration into Russia.
>if I was Canadian I would be elated to kick out Quebec
It's very easy to have opinions about things that have nothing to do with you.
>Russia will go nuclear
Russia left Chechnya in shame in 1996 without going nuclear. They will do the same in Ukraine, and they will quickly ascend to NATO member to guarantee Russia doesn't decide to redo the conflict, and that's assuming that internal pressure doesn't get Putin kicked from power.
I dont think Ukraine can win this. They don't get enough weapons to win and counting on a war of attrition makes sense only against someone who actually cares about the lives of his soldiers. Putin clearly doesnt at this point. And the sanctions, even if they harm, it will not cause a revolution. Look at North Korea, yeah its shitty but it does exist. People should take this as a warning, do not let people in power for decades.
>They don't get enough weapons to win
They're getting more as time goes by. Russia, on the other hand, doesn't seem to be able to replenish their lost tanks, IFVs, jets, helicopters, etc, or it's at least too expensive to do so. Like I said, they've clearly changed tactics to a heavily artillery centric bomb and advance style of attrition warfare, and that only works as long as Russia has the better artillery, and Ukraine is getting more and more artillery with longer ranges than Russia, as well as international support for finding Russian positions. This war is only going to go further south for Russia IMO, because of the Russia running out of on field advantages.
>counting on a war of attrition makes sense only against someone who actually cares about the lives of his soldiers
I don't think the goal is intended to be a war of attrition. It's certainly that right now, but the goal is likely to make it so that Ukraine can retake and then defend their international border while achieving a high attrition ratio against Russia. Russia has been racing through legislation to lower acceptance into the military and is scraping the bottom of the barrel for volunteer forces. Sure they can 'just' declare war and conscript, but that would be very unpopular locally and degrade their performance even more. It also won't help provide them with the weapons they need to fight. A thousand people in 300 tanks is better than a million unmotivated people while still only having 300 tanks.
>I'd be suprised if all the 'stan's and Armenia and Georgia etc aren't taking notes and looking into the feasibility of developing their own nuclear arsenal.
Ukraine already had a secret nuclear weapons program, which a British MP accidentally admitted when he was prank called.
The only historically Ukrainian part of Ukraine is a small part in the center. Russian speakers sure as shit want out of Ukraine now. They aren't allowed to go to school in Russian and teachers are fined if they so much as speak Russian to a student. They're hated in what was their country.
Quebecers suck, and this is from someone who speaks French. Ils s'en foutent complètement des autres canadiens. Ils vous détestent. Ils sont même plus socialistes que vous et en plus ils sont trop fiers de larper comme des vieux-français quand ils peuvent meme pas parler correctement leur propre langue.
>Russia left Chechnya in shame in 1996 without going nuclear. They will do the same in Ukraine, and they will quickly ascend to NATO member to guarantee Russia doesn't decide to redo the conflict, and that's assuming that internal pressure doesn't get Putin kicked from power.
But wait, you said Ukraine would win??? Why would Russia leave Ukraine in a position to ever join NATO? That's the majority of the reason they're doing this. They won't win and say "well we blew you up, bye!" and then leave Ukraine to join NATO
>British MP accidentally admitted
Yeah I also tell foreign MPs about my 'secret' nuclear program. I think the prank call you're talking about was an MP being told by the prankster that Ukraine had a nuclear weapons program, and them stammering their way through that little bomb shell.
>The only historically Ukrainian part of Ukraine is a small part in the center.
Yeah I've seen the meme image too. Get better material. Almost all of Ukraine is majority Ukrainian ethnics. Every oblast voted to be part of Ukraine in the early 90's. Russia signed off on this arrangement in 1995. We'll never know the opinions of Ukrainians at the moment the war broke out, but every indicator shows how fake and gay the whole novorussia movement was.
>Ils sont même plus socialistes que vous
Yeah I don't exactly like frogs either, but they're at least indigenous, and not just forced deportees from America in the 50's now pretending like Canada is actually American or some gay shit like that.
>Why would Russia leave Ukraine in a position to ever join NATO
Because they lack the army necessary to prevent it.
>They won't win and say "well we blew you up, bye!" and then leave Ukraine to join NATO
I think you need to reread my post.
Go get a Sputnik 5 vaccine zigger
>They don't have a proper ethnogenesis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_War_of_Independence
>which is the difference between an Ukrainian and a Russian
no true Scotsman. The average Ukrainian is less of a commie, but also more just generally butthurt about the holodomor.
>there is zero interest
Thought you had a bunch of old farts constantly demanding to get restitution of their stolen lands from the end of WW2
>It will if Russia decides to go to war over that Lithuanian blockade.
germany will never take back konigsberg. there is zero interest and germany is not a warmaking country anymore and probably never will be.
>The only historically Ukrainian part of Ukraine is a small part in the center.
you are confusing political borders with ethnic ones. no one denies these areas were part of russian empire or that russians founded majority of major cities in south/east ukraine, but the people living there prior to russian empire annexation and up today are majority ukrainian
>people living there prior to russian empire annexation
it was wild field before russian empire liberation though
Raided by nogaui/tatar hordes yearly. Loca deserta on map
you're such a cock gobbling propagandist stop shilling the american position when you know very well they are evil and frothing at the mouth over the possibility of war with russia. they want another 80s invasion of afghanistan and don't care at all if ukraine is destroyed in the effort.
Truth.
Russhit meme flag confirmed, fire the fagget exterminator missiles. Ukraine had better standard of living than russia before war. You faggets don't know what a toilet or washing machine is and loot fucking laundry detergent. You shell trenches with bunker busters like a fucking ape would. Neck yoursel.
>Ukraine had better standard of living than russia before war.
according to what metric?
based vatnik
>old farts is pissing their pants from happiness,
>Yeah, most people are pro-russian
So why are pro Russia? Most or just old people, mr.liberashka? Surerly not everyone is old. Someone is fighting, mr.betterthantherest
You understand Western Ukraine is an even more impoverished shithole right?
Why didn't you leave for Poland in february? Or anywhere. Why do you have no agency and just stay and rot? Niggas walked here from Syria but you can't leave your house
> i'm planning on leaving this shithole in ukraine when the war is over
i hope you never have the chance
>> i'm planning on leaving this shithole in ukraine when the war is over
>i hope you never have the chance
Based anon hoping for eternal war
God bless Ukraine. Stay safe brother.
I will cry tears of joy when Putin flattens krautland
I know chinks like you hate white culture and land and wish it be wiped by Mongols.
>white culture
>Germany
>I know chinks like you hate white culture and land and wish it be wiped by Mongols.
You've been 100% zogged. You have no white culture left, only that of the israelite. Your grandpa had a good run anon, you can be proud of that at the very least
Stop projecting.
>Stop projecting.
cope and seethe
You're the only one seething inside. You live in a soulless cooperate mutt land that only exists as a police station. You have nothing left.
>German implying he still has his culture
Isn't your first language arabic dude? LMA O
Go Russia. Fuck you retard.
>t. liberashka
>Do most people approve of Russia coming in?
I'm not from Ukraine, but no, certainly not in Kherson and other newly captured towns
>Crimea, DPR and LPR aren't "occupied Ukraine"
They are.
>To believe that you have to believe that no people, ever, have the right to self-determination
How do you gauge public opinion in these occupied territories? I won't insult your intelligence by asking whether you think """referendums""" conducted by the Russian army are legit
>If Belgium banned French speakers from working in government jobs and banned French from schools, would you find it surprising that the French speakers wanted to leave Belgium or join France?
France hasn't been terrorising or threatening to invade Belgium for years, so nobody in the North perceives us (Walloons) as a threat
so you have no first hand knowledge at all, which was the point of the thread.
My country basically caused the Ukrainians to go Uber-nationalist and discriminate against the Russians, which caused this whole mess. Russia was never "terrorizing" Ukraine, however Ukraine has been shelling Donbass for 8 years after they declared independence.
According to you I live in occupied United Kingdom.
? You live in occupied Indian land retard
Liberated*
>It was ours all along
>Russia was never "terrorizing" Ukraine,
are you blind or what? theyve been carving the country up and annexing it in chunks since 2014. the internet is full of footage of ukraine being blown to smithereens since the end of february. just today a huge shopping mall went up in flames from an attack
>meme flag (probably a fat ass ignorant american) trying lecture a ukrainian about his own country
just shut the fuck up. no one is going to read your diary homosexual
russians still believe ukrainian is not a language
>are you blind or what? theyve been carving the country up and annexing it in chunks since 2014. the internet is full of footage of ukraine being blown to smithereens since the end of february. just today a huge shopping mall went up in flames from an attack
I was responding to someone who said "terrorising or threatening to invade... for years" so he meant pre-invasion. Before February Russia really hasn't done shit to Ukraine, and pre 2014 they certainly didn't, they were allies.
>russians still believe ukrainian is not a language
it's on the borderline between separate language and just weird dialect.
You do live in occupied United Kingdom. Your land should be returned to the Crown.
then the crown needs to go back to being a part of normandy. Which is all really a part of Rome.
Stop pretending like you know anything about my country you limp dick fagget. Go watch some more youtube videos and clips of RT.
I'm a redneck you retard. I know quite a bit about America, as my last ancestor came here in the 19th century.
Is surzhyk something that can be learned or is it something you only get from living in mixed Ukrainian/Russian speaking areas?
It's like ebonics, there's no standardization so it varies from place to place, and being like ebonics, besides living with the naggers there's no way to learn it.
So if i know Ukrainian i can just pepper random russian words through it and go full bix nood muhfugga?
Maybe, I'm sure they'd all be so drunk it might work.
the whole conflict is more similar to a civil war actually
Imagine US liberals have their own independent retarded state for 30 years
most of the people in Ukraine or Russia though don't want to be a part of this stupid conflict
so
>How is morale?
I think people there (in Donbass and Ukaine in general) just want peaceful life
>Imagine US liberals have their own independent retarded state for 30 years
More like Texas has liberal independant retarded states around it.
There was an anon from Crimea. From what I remember, live there is "relatively" normal. The wasno power for a while, there was a lot more soldiers. And he couldn't get his favourite biscuits. But more or less its more or less the best place to be in the current circumstance.
Crimea is different. It only had 3% native Ukrainian speakers, already had Russian military there, and seceded with no fighting.
I'm more curious about the places that were Ukraine in January and 6 months later are now Russia.
Well my only sources are Patric Lancasters vids, so for many it might not be a good souce. But he often shows homes in and how people live through this situation. Last time I checked there was a video abaut Kherson
I was agreeing with you on Crimea. Everyone supports Russia and there was no violence, so basically life just kept going as before.
It must be very different on the mainland outside of the territory that LPR/DPR had before February.
Well Patric Lancaster is propably the best you can get.
But from his videos is quite clear that its not the best and people there really don't want to be involwed in any of this.
Crimea was a violent beatdown followed by repression.
Life kept going as before but with less jobs if you shut up and accepted occupation.
Oh and it wasn't short repression. No they still made peaceful political opposition disappear in 2021 and 22. Purges upon purges. Remove individual leaders and protesters until the rest folds.
Know someone from Kherson, shortages and prices are high
>conquered
lmao
temporarily occupied is not conquered.
>temporarily occupied is not conquered.
How is Ukraine going to beat Russia? If NATO stepped in I'd agree with you, but they won't. Russia sees this as necessary to their survival, the west doesn't.
Lend lease will be enough. Once Ukraine has high precision weaponry it will turn the tide of the war. HIMARS is already working.
Russia isn't using most of their military. If it comes down to it they will. They care about this more than we do.
yeah, I have aunt/uncle and cousins in the LNR since im from Voronezh region in the south
LNR was luckier than DNR so they didnt even evacuate this time (in 2014 they came to live with us for a while), their area is safely under LNR control and hasn't been particularly attacked
Services as usual from their local gov but also lots of Russians there
They 100% approve and want to be annexed asap, because it will open a lot of opportunities for my cousins, who are young
They are 100% russian and have never supported Ukrainian army
that said, they know many people who were on the 'other side of the lines' for the last 8 years who have now become passionate ukie nationalists, even though they live close nearby
>, they know many people who were on the 'other side of the lines' for the last 8 years who have now become passionate ukie nationalists, even though they live close nearby
I'm guessing you mean the other side of the lines but still in Lugansk. Wait, so Russian speakers became Ukrainian nationalists? Did they give up their mother tongue to be accepted? Do they realize that if they don't get taken by Russia, the Ukrainians will fucking execute them after the war is over?
not only in lugansk, i was more talking about kharkov area actually
no, they still all speak russian
they dont think theyll be executed (and i doubt that would happen), they have just drunk the EU coolaid etc and believe they would be rich superpower if not for russia
its hard also because russia is bombing their region a lot right now
but who knows how things will go when its over
>Wait, so Russian speakers became Ukrainian nationalists? Did they give up their mother tongue to be accepted? Do they realize that if they don't get taken by Russia, the Ukrainians will fucking execute them after the war is over?
Man, you have falled for KGB propaganda. RUSSIAN SPEAKERS AREN'T PERSECUTED IN HOHOLAND. Even their president israelitelensky is a russian speaker and speaks a really broken ukrainian. Also you shouldn't be surprised if there are russian speakers ukrie nationalists. Think it like this, a french speaker senegalese can hate french people too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine
>herp derp we aren't persecuted when they're literally attempting to erase our language from the country.
This is actual bullshit
I was helping ukr refugees in Romania few months back and talked to some of them about it. A girl told me (from Odessa) her school banned Russian and fined anyone who spoke it.
I thought it was all propaganda, but if you talk to the ukrianians from the east it's quite obvious it's not propaganda.
>israelitelensky is a russian speaker and speaks a really broken ukrainian
This is on the "he's a israelite therefore Nazis don't exist" level of retardation. He literally just signed new laws banning Russian music lol.
is a russian speaker and speaks a really broken ukrainian
>This is on the "he's a israelite therefore Nazis don't exist" level of retardation. He literally just signed new laws banning Russian music lol.
I think he might have come into office with good intentions of deescalating the situation, but the immediate death threats caused him to 180. He's basically a captive puppet at this point and just wants to get out alive with his billions.
oh i guess i should add my bros gf is from zaporozhye and she has been back there recently with hum aid convoy. she says there the situation is very different and pretty hostile. however, zaporozhye is very very fucking poor, even compared to steppenagger areas of russia, so she thinks if russia will give money to the area in like 10 years it will be pro-russian
she is kinda ambivalent, but she already lives in russia with my brother so
>they know many people who were on the 'other side of the lines' for the last 8 years who have now become passionate ukie nationalists
What did you expect? Conflicts radicalize people. Bosniaks, croats and serbs know this very well
I assume ukraine is metro, I also do not even know or care where it is.
What NPCs think (see pic related).
I don't know, but I saw full stores in Kherson. Looked like stores in America, maybe with even more food since a lot of shelves are empty because of Biden.
What do Russians/Ukrainians think of this image?
when I see that a pride like no other swells in my heart. #thefutureisfluffy
COPE
top kek
Five dollar gas in the US paid for with Ukrainian ham.
post nose
Nobody under 30 left there to post here. They either run, or fight, or are already dead.
Wrong as always seething baltic. Your butthurt doesn't define reality.
Stfu you illiterate retard. Imagine believing this schizo is an objective source when all his videos are pro-Russian "look how Ukraines shells Donetsk".
More reliable source than your bloody shit stains.
How would the Ukrainians feel if a massive pr campaign educated them that:
>US Ukrainian-biolabs set them up for an NBC Chernobyl;
>Biden probably secretly intends to aid Putin; boost his proxy (through Hunter) investments in oil; and crush fossil fuels in the US, none of which have anything to do with improving the lot of non-U-certified Ukrainians
Look at this schizo thinking people who fight for the survival of their nation and families care about some biolabs and hunter biden. Oh, hunter biden embezzled funds, then Russia can take my country. Some people on this board are literally insane.
>Look at this schizo thinking people who fight for the survival of their nation and families
But they're not.
Of course they are.
>just lay down your weapons and allow to be invaded dude
sometimes it's the best strategy
You gayto homosexuals are given a script. You adhere to the script, because you're either a paid shill or retarded. I'm not sure which.
No, Ukraine is just a territorial designation of Russia. It was never its own independent country until the USSR dissolved. If you actually read the history of Russia you will see this, but you don't care about facts and history and other things like that, because you have a narritive to protect. A narrative given to you by George Soros.
I'll spell it out for you:
>Biden never intended for the Ukrainians to actually win
>ukranian advance
I actually laughed
I wonder if Russia will let me buy 100 acres just north of crimea on the cheap. Id fuckin move in a heartbeat.
Lets say there are no more villages left after this ~~*war*~~ to feed or shelter people.
This country is done, the shit is coming
I don't know whether you're a troll, retarded, or both. Either way, I'm going to find where you live.
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Have you lost the capacity for human speech, or do they study Urdu instead of English in the UK?
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PSST HEY VATTY, STOP FALLING FOR THE NIKERPOPAGANDATINO VATNIKERINO XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Nice hips, would
SHELLING DONBASS? PFFT THATS JUST VATNIKERINTO VATTY NIKKERTINO XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
VATNIKERTINO PROPAGANDINO XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
VATTY CAKE VATTY CAKE BAKERS MAN VATNIKERINTO VATTY BAMBINO XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>Reasonably Sized Dick
how much you packin' ukraine bro?
14 or 15
Hey guys nice chat, which side are the israelites on so I can do the opposite? Carry on.
Watch Yuri Podolyaka, along with other political events he makes almost daily updates about the special operation in Ukraine.
https://t.me/yurasumy
nagger