I agree it can be annoying but the other extreme of nasty is loud and robotic, too digitally processed. Music today is often too square, over produced and the beat set exactly on the grid. Joni had interesting chords and "alternate" or "open" tuning, some of Tom York's chord choices are interesting even if the song is miserable. I have not listened to Joanna Newsom in a while but if I remember it was kind of annoying and it was one of those typical mistakes vocalists make, they slow down or break their playing into this off-tempo mood waiting for their vocal to kick in, there is a fraction of a second wait for the line of the voice to land before playing the note on Piano or Harp or Guitar. It destroys the groove, some oldies or drug addicts might not hear it but it can be annoying if you've ever played rhythm, their rhythm is almost there but not really, always off tempo inside their own head waiting for their own vocal note to arrive. The rhythm section instruments should drive the song not the voice not the other way around, it is a very bad habbit to get into. Although on rare moments you do have vocalists with very good timing.
>off-tempo singing
Modern obsession with singing on the grid is a result of DAWs. Traditionally, singers cared about preserving the natural phrasing of speech.
We're talking about singer-songwriter stuff, which like most non-classical music before digital production was happy to vary lyrical phrasing independently from the accompaniment.
>Traditionally
No they didn't. Choir and choral arrangements were strictly rhythm.
We're talking about singer-songwriter stuff, which like most non-classical music before digital production was happy to vary lyrical phrasing independently from the accompaniment.
Ah, so by "traditional" you meant post-war, deconstructionist theory?
Tom York, the Radioheads
I agree it can be annoying but the other extreme of nasty is loud and robotic, too digitally processed. Music today is often too square, over produced and the beat set exactly on the grid. Joni had interesting chords and "alternate" or "open" tuning, some of Tom York's chord choices are interesting even if the song is miserable. I have not listened to Joanna Newsom in a while but if I remember it was kind of annoying and it was one of those typical mistakes vocalists make, they slow down or break their playing into this off-tempo mood waiting for their vocal to kick in, there is a fraction of a second wait for the line of the voice to land before playing the note on Piano or Harp or Guitar. It destroys the groove, some oldies or drug addicts might not hear it but it can be annoying if you've ever played rhythm, their rhythm is almost there but not really, always off tempo inside their own head waiting for their own vocal note to arrive. The rhythm section instruments should drive the song not the voice not the other way around, it is a very bad habbit to get into. Although on rare moments you do have vocalists with very good timing.
we're not prepared to have this conversation
Of all the critiques one could make, “thin” singing is not one of them.
Rush/Geddy Lee
>thin, off-tempo singing
>Geddy
leave Geddy alone.
joanne newsome. I hate that sprout loving retard
SOLA
>off-tempo singing
Modern obsession with singing on the grid is a result of DAWs. Traditionally, singers cared about preserving the natural phrasing of speech.
>Traditionally
No they didn't. Choir and choral arrangements were strictly rhythm.
We're talking about singer-songwriter stuff, which like most non-classical music before digital production was happy to vary lyrical phrasing independently from the accompaniment.
Ah, so by "traditional" you meant post-war, deconstructionist theory?
You are all completely wrong
In 15 years we'll be precisely right.
is she really a top 10 guitarist? i always thought she was like Dylan
She's way better than Dylan but I wouldn't put her anywhere near the top 10. She's a unique player but not really technical
>way better than Dylan
>top 10 songwriters
kyss
top 10 songwriters probably