I'm a 30 year old guy and I've been in a relationship with the same girl for 7 years now (living together for the last 3 years and we're engaged to be married), but a few years ago I went to an Asian Massage Parlor and got a happy ending the first time in my life. I ended up getting hooked for a while - I would go for a "massage" about once or twice a month, I'd mostly just get handjobs but a few places gave me "full service" from time to time. A few months ago I was getting "full service," and before wrapping to fuck my "masseuse" rubbed my bare dick against her bare pussy during the foreplay. I got paranoid about catching an STI and giving it to my fiancée, I ended up being clean but I made a vow to God to never go to an AMP again.
I've been good with keeping that vow for the past 4 or so months, but a few new "massage parlors" have opened up close by in my neighborhood. I looked up them up and sure enough they're listed on rubmaps and escort sites, and now the urge to get "massaged" is coming back.
I call this an addiction because I feel like I'm literally craving it. I get light headed, my legs get shaky, I start breathing heavy and my mouth gets dry. I assume it's just from the adrenaline but nothing else really gets me that excited and turned on. It's a very erotic experience for me, something about laying on a table in just a towel and getting rubbed down before getting fucked by the masseuse is just sexy to me.
I want to do better for my fiancée, and I obviously don't want to give her an STI. Our sex life has gotten very stale in a "married couple way," which is why I guess I started seeking out AMPs, but I really do love her and want to make this marriage work. How can I fight these urges more effectively? What can I do to put the temptation out of my mind despite basically being forced to see these places whenever I leave my house?
tl;dr got "addicted" to massage parlors, stopped going after STI paranoia but tempted again, how can I prevent a relapse?
Dealing with that will be mostly the same as any other sex addiction. Do a little bit of research and you'll find lots of advice. Strongly consider moving to a new neighborhood if possible. Exposure to the source of your addiction will make things much harder for you.
You cheated on your fiance, what you should do is confess to her and beg for forgiveness, sounds like you want out of the relationship and are trying to sabotage it.
unhelpful, virgin take
Not a virgin not a girl if thats your next go to attack, if OP was a woman saying she cheated on her fiance just once all of you would want to burn her at the stake.
Shut the fuck up cuck.
There's literally nothing wrong with what you are doing. Just because you are having sex with other women it doesn't mean you love these hoes. Just make sure to wear a condom and enjoy the finite time you have on earth
Everything you do is eternal. It exists, and will exist forever, whether it's cheating on your wife with asian hookers, or posting on this board.
Porn addicted "Christian" virgin take.
>confess to her and beg for forgiveness
this is how you sabotage the relationship fucktard virgin incel. OP should do what he desires, some Chads would even let their girl know and the girl would be so lovestruck they wouldn't care anyway. Don't ever beg a girl or let her dictate your life, the fuck?
Go to SAA-recovery.org , and find the meetings section. They have daily meetings on zoom or by phone. You can go there and find a bunch of people going thru the same thing and ask them for help/advice. It’s a hard battle
You had a girl for 7 years you could do anything you wanted to do with her, and you still couldn't keep your pants up.
You goofed. Wtf is wrong with you
>You had a girl for 7 years you could do anything you wanted to do with her
I have done everything I've wanted with her, that's kind of the point. We used to have absolutely wild romps but after 7 years there's only so many times and ways you can have sex before it just becomes dull, and the last few years she's really stopped putting in the effort.
I'm not making excuses, I'm just saying how it is because you don't seem to get it. Try eating just your favorite flavor of ice cream for years and years, eventually you'll get sick of it.
I get stinky femcel vibes from this post
lmao imagine having so little willpower that you cant stop having sex with hookers. Hope your fiance finds out what you did and vreaks up with your loser ass
you never thought to ask your fiancee to give you sexual massages???
I tried that once and it was very dull, she couldn't keep up the roleplay (which is funny because she is also Asian) and we just stopped and had sex normally. In general, the last few years she's been making minimal effort in the bedroom, just laying there cold fish until I nut.
Also part of the thrill is that it's a new woman every time, Coolidge effect and all.
>he fell for the wmaf meme
but i digress; talk to her about it (obviously not fucking massage parlor sluts) and wanting to spice up your sex life
im at the 2 year mark myself with my gf and i still find myself nefariously wringing my hands thinking about the shit i want to do to her
Are massage parlor girls actually hot? Going to vegas soon and considering it but don’t want some plain Jane old lady
don't underestimate those plain jane old ladys, they will go the extra mile
I’m sure, but if I’m going to pay, I’d prefer to pay for unobtainable pretty women, out of my league looks wise
If you want that you should just book a normal escort. Out of the 30 or so times I've gone to AMPs/nuru I've only ever gotten two or three girls I considered actually hot, like 8+/10.
Massage is its own thing IMO, some of the thrill is going there under the pretense of not being there for sex, until you do that turn over and a little Chinese hand grabs your dick under the towel.
>Are massage parlor girls actually hot?
Mixed bag, but if it's an actual brothel and not just a massage parlor that throws out the odd handjob they will make an effort to stock hotter, younger girls. Especially Latina places vs strict AMPs
Not usually, and usually the hot ones are cunts.
But if you're not a bad looking average build guy they will genuinely be into it. If you go visit a traditional hooker, even if you're a 10/10 you can always tell its transactional. Also only around 20% of guys do the full service and there's a minimum of 30 mins massage involved so they end up giving usually less than 10 handjobs and get fucked 2-3 times max a day, maybe a couple of blowing, whereas with a normal hooked they could be getting 3-4 dicks an hour (some of them have 30 mins OR you cum (less than 5 mins for most).
Asian massage parlour girls deal with mostly obese boomers so if you're a semi fit 20-35 year old you are a 10/10 to them. Also depends if you get the ones that are fresh on their visas and don't realise what's really going on yet. The ones that have been there for a few years are usually jaded and bitter.
>I want to do better for my fiancée
It's easy to see that you love and care for her, but you're just not sexually attracted/aroused by her anymore.
I really hope you can work on your intimacy issues.
>same girl for 7 years now
It's called the 7-year itch for a reason. There's a book you should read, called "Women’s Infidelity: Living in Limbo" by Michelle Langley. It's not specifically about women, but about relationships and brain chemistry and the book explains your situation.
Ultimately it means if you're not going to have children with your fiancé, your biology demands it of you with another woman. This is why you're having such as physiological reaction to massage parlors, because they satisfy the demand your biology wants from you. Your DNA wants to reproduce and you know damn well you don't want to have children with your fiancé.
Time for you to man up and dump her. Time for you to get another woman that wants a child asap.
>you know damn well you don't want to have children with your fiancé
I actually do, she's the one that's been putting it off and brushing me off the last few years. Her go-to excuse is that we don't have enough saved up for a child but that's bullshit. I think the real reason is that she wants to keep living like a "woman-child" and not take on the responsibilities that come with starting a family.
That doesn't negate your overall point though.
Hey OP. I was the guy in a wmaf situation similar to yours. Around the 7 year mark i also suddenly really wanted kids and she did not. She'd make up excuses. At the 8 year mark she cheated on me - i left her and I'm now with another asian girl who is 5 years younger and literally craves children (shes an elementary school teacher). She actually begs for cum every time and I can't even begin to describe how much better it's been on my psyche. High recommend leaving your gf.
This guys probably right. It might suck but it sure beats knocking up a woman thats clearly wrong for you. I saw one of my ex's the other day and she has a 10 year old. She's a neurotic wreck. Poor kid and I pity the man.
You cheated instead of working on your sex life, you cheated on your fiancee to be more precise.
You don't deserve anything.
Honestly, just wear a condom when you do it and have the decency to not have sex with your wife until you get tested. If you truly have a sex addiction with this stuff then there is no helping it. Most men are this way in that they want to fuck everything, some act on it. There is no love for these whores in anyway and the love for our wives is always present but we just have a physical need that needs to be satiated. Women will never understand this as they have children mindsets and are unable to understand a perspective unless they experience it first hand.
When you go on a binge just make sure you’re responsible and she doesn’t do anything bare and you always use a condom. Also, don’t have sex with your wife and pay for an anonymous drug test at a not so local clinic to ensure you have nothing before you fuck your wife again.
This is the best advice itt other than
>stop fucking whores
If you really can’t stop the urges (you can) then go with just being as safe as possible.
I guess you're also a cheater and this thread struck a nerve? Smh an adult man with no self control is a pathetic thing
No I’m an incel who just understands that I shouldn’t talk about shit that I haven’t experienced.
Did my post strike a nerve for you?
>I know you are but what am I
More childish behaviour to confirm your immaturity. Like I said, pathetic.
>still no actual rebuttal
Thanks for the W
Says the guy who's a virgin and probably will die alone
>pot
>kettle
I’m just being realistic
What rebuttal is there? You're a pathetic man that has to justify a lack of self control by calling people incels? And when you are called out on it you just say 'well I'm an incel as well so whatever'. And then you act like you've said anything of note? You are the very definition of a pathetic coward.
>more personal insults
>no actual rebuttal
Ok very cool. You don’t even know what you’re mad about.
I'm not mad, I just think you're a pathetic man that wants to defend cheating without having the cognitive ability to realise what you are saying. Still waiting for your actual argument btw otherwise I'll take that W, thanks kid, you can go back to Instagram now fr fr.
Wait...were you the one who defended cheating? What the fuck are you on about dude
>IM NOT MAD!!!11
>visibly mad
Nice argument. I accept your concession
>delusional
Lol there’s no argument to be had with you. You are just seething because you saw it as opposition to whatever you claim your gay worldview is in order to cope with your own shortcomings as a “man”
>getting mad and personally insults without offering an argument
sounds like you've got a case of the
Your concession has been accepted and filed, thank you for participating.
You call other people pathetic and here you are telling yourself that you are winning an internet argument that you conjured up in your head. Ask yourself who is really winning. Kek. You didn’t even say anything in the argument, just the typical you’re an incel
There is no need to continue after losing the argument, it just makes you seem even stupider than you already look 🙂
>t.
thanks again for participating
Thank you again
Tell your a horrible person without telling me your a horrible person
You dont have an addiction to sex workers. You are unhappy with the sex life you have with your wife.
Ask how to fix your marriage instead.
>Let ME tell YOU what’s wrong with YOU
Shut the fuck up with your pseudo homosexualry online therapist shit. You can love your wife and have sex with her and still like to fuck other women or fantasize about it lol this is totally normal. Every guy just has different ways of keeping that feeling in check. Some ignore it, some jerk off, others cheat.
>31
>married
>like to frequent AMP myself, I can sniff one out from a mile away and always want to try a new one, similar to you.
It's a shitty thing to do, even though you are simply paying for a non-emotional service getting a sensual massage. It leaves me feeling empty and guilty especially when seeing my wife afterwards.
I used to go ALOT near addiction level at one point in my relationship. (never did full service most I ever did was a blowie). But I abstained long enough and the urges went away like any addiction.
Triggers for me were breaking out of my normal routine, having some extra free time without my wife being present and lastly driving and seeing "SPA" in red letters at a very obvious AMP. Identify your triggers.
If you feel like you must try the new AMP's that opened up and get serviced by an Asian robot just stick to a HJ. This way you only have to deal with guilt and not paranoia of an STI. At least practice self control on some level.
Good luck OP.
I hope your wife finds out about this and leave you. You are a horrible husband and you deserve to be alone and die alone. She doesn't deserve you
OPs gf is asian and he's going to asian parlors. WOW.
White women have been brainwashed by israelites. They're all awful. Simple as.
>t.
Are AMP women even hot enough for it to be worth it? Maybe my standards are high but I’m not going there for less than a 7.5
I mentioned this before
AMP girls aren't usually very hot, but how hot the girls are doesn't really matter to me. I like the sensation and overall experience, that's the hot part. You and the girl are both pretending you're not there for sex initially, but she can feel you're not wearing anything under the towel and you can feel her hands running up to you balls as she's rubbing. It's almost like a fantasy from a porno, sure she's not Anri Okita but you've still got an asian milf worshipping your cock
And as
mentioned if you're not a 50 year old trucker with a gut, parlour girls will actually find you attractive and get real enthusiastic, sometimes throw in extras like getting naked or even jerk you off again for free if they see you're still horny.
It's also very cheap compared to regular escorts, not that I know personally but at most parlors a "tip" of $150-$160 will usually get you everything, most I ever paid was $200 for a very hot big titty latina at a nuru
*not that I know personally about regular escorts. I've never fucked non-AMP prostitutes and probably never will, most of my problem is finding the AMP experience hot compared to just ordering some girl and having her show up at your door/picking her up off the street. And there are plenty of streetwalkers in my town too, if I want to fuck them I would have.
Why do so many dumbasses throw away good long term relationships because theyre coomer sex addicts holy shit, youre pathetic
1. You don't elaborate so I don't know. But it sounds like your fiance is not delivering. Which is NOT a great problem to have before marriage. If so, you need to have a real talk with her about your needs.
2. Assuming all is actually well on her end, you got an addiction. It's a dopamine fix you're chasing, and novel experiences that makes you bored of your fiance. Find resources on it. Anti porn resources may help as well, since it's usually all connected especially since it sounds like you will look up shit online which might stimulate you. Think about what else leads to it. For some people it's other vices or even coming across thots in a social feed. Make another vow to God and write down the date and make it the thing you can't break.
3. Assuming all of the above is fine, every time you get an urge to look at parlors, get a hard on, etc, mentally recognize that is your own desire to fuck your fiance. You want to fuck your girl. Try everything you can to go after your girl or plan to fuck her.
When I was having my own affair: this didn't work. I realized that I wanted to be with my mistress more than I did my wife so I let go of my shame and I continue to have my affair to this day.
I'm responding to OP. I don't know anything about you except that you have a mistress and that you want to be with them more than your wife. Which can be an honest take on your needs that you didn't realize until after you tied the knot, or a cope with the difficulty of fighting urges. Again, no idea since you just popped in here to reply to my advice to OP.
I'm telling you that your advice is dogs and doesn't work so OP shouldn't listen to it.
I guess that will depend on if OP actually came here for advice or is a bitch seeking "validation" from another coomer high on their own copium.
This is probably the most retarded thread I have read on here next
The f you're doing? You've been with the same girl for 7 years and you want to fuck some massage parlor pussy? What's wrong with ya girl? Wtf is this homosexualry, you got an exclusive girl yet you want to put your dick in holes which have had numerous cocks that day.. Jfc
what is the point of being in a relationship if you just want to get your dick wet? 0 iq takes in this thread, do you want to go through the divorce ringer or what
>7 year girlfriend
You were supposed to be married 5 years ago and be having kids already