>I'm not a farmer
sucks to suck, but you could also put a watertank or welding equipment or barrells of oil on there, or an AA gun, but I guess you homosexuals are too cucked for guns
What's the point of owning a gun when you lads never use them, for anything ever, and let all the corruption happen without resistance? You didn't do shit during the great chimpout, you didn't so shit during the meme lockdowns and you didn't do anything during the 2020 elections. You, owning guns, as a concept/on paper, is amazing and I am very jealous indeed, don't get me wrong. But I am starting to see just why they let you have them [guns] because you will comply with anything anyway, so you're not a thread to anyone.
Sorry for the long off-topic post. >tl;dr
Little less conversation, a little more action please.
Definitely sounds like a real use case problem either way I'm sure there's no way you could have that delivered when you buy a new one every twenty years
1 year ago
Vtak yo
Yea but I need it now to hold all my fricking burgers m8
1 year ago
Anonymous
Fridges don't last 20 years lol. You might get 10 if you're really lucky. Now when you got multiple fridges/freezers trips to the appliance store and the landfill become pretty common. Same goes for TV's.
because Europe has had civilization built upon it for thousands of years and old roads and institutions have been built in places we can't just bulldoze through to make roads.
The USA is a very young nation
Have they not figured out skyscrapers yet?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Have they not figured out skyscrapers yet?
Yes...? How exactly do skyscrapers fix the width of the roads?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Bulldoze the 2000 year old pieces of shit and build a more narrow but taller building to replace it. That way you keep the same surface area and volume inside it. It's like elementary level math...
American cities were built for horses too not cars, just like the ones in Europe. They just didn't give a shit and bulldozed them in the 50s.
Because we were smart.
1 year ago
Anonymous
American cities were built for horses too not cars, just like the ones in Europe. They just didn't give a shit and bulldozed them in the 50s.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>bulldozed them in the 50s
Where? My city’s downtown is nearly the same as it was in 1910. The ‘car-oriented’ suburbs were all built in what was originally open woodland and swamps.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I still use a freezer made in 1958.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>i need a pickup truck because i buy a new fridge every 10 years
holy shit
1 year ago
Anonymous
You know it's normal here to have multiple fridges in your house, right? Of course the people with washers and dryer s in their kitchen can't comprehend this.
1 year ago
Anonymous
My fridge did. Maybe yours keeps shitting itself because the little motor is having to cool half a year's worth of food
>how do you transport a fridge
how often do you buy fridges? have it delivered >or a boat
it lives in the marina, I don't have to tow it around >or a stack of hay
I'm not a farmer, I've never had to move a stack of hay >or a dirtbike
white trash entertaniment, no thanks.
>how do you transport a fridge
It comes delivered, you should know this >or a boat
I live on the coastline, never had to tow my boats on the road. >stack of hay (or similar items)
I rent a pickup for a day if it's needed, but it's so rare it happens once in 2-3 years >a dirtbike
Why? Can't I just drive the dirtbike where I want it, otherwise if I REALLY need it in the car I can fold the seats down, maybe a golf can't fit it but my 5 series wagon can.
Not owning a truck while owning a motorcycle actually really sucks: >need to buy a fat ADV if you want to go offroad anywhere far >basically no way of getting bike to mechanic if it can't run on its own power >if bike can run on its own power, taking to mechanic ends up being two cab fares per appointment >buying bikes out of state becomes a huge pain in the ass as rental trucks become hundreds of dollars and are not always available >basically can't own dirtbikes at all
What I always wonder is how do you go snowboarding or surfing with a couple friends? Where is your gear suppose to go? >roof rack >lol just rent a truck for the day.
Those are the usual excuses, by people that apparently never go outside because my snowboard gear alone is a 40 gallon duffel bag + multiple boards for various slope conditions. You're not getting that x3 onto a roof rack of some europoor shitbox.
You're also not renting a truck every weekend.
It's like anti-truck gays have no life outside of the internet and have never experienced a need for anything other than an appliance tier vehicle to bring their chicken teddies home.
Cars don't quite cut it for MTB'ing where I live. I drive a sedan and a wagon but I still have to carpool with my friends to get to the good trailheads. While my bike fits fine in both I don't got the ground clearance or traction to get to the good spots.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You should be able to get a moderate size suv that can handle it. The hybrid ones with 2/4wd switch about are great for it as they ahve seperate motors for each wheel the can work seperately to maintain tractions.
1 year ago
Anonymous
There is no such thing as a hybrid SUV anymore. Those are all crossovers. A true BOF SUV with a real 4x4 system would be ideal but those don't really exist anymore. I will get a half or 3/4 ton truck once I get more parking spots and once the use market fricks off.
1 year ago
Anonymous
4runner is expect to get a hybrid soon. The highland should honestly do everything you want as well.
1 year ago
Anonymous
4Runners are chick mobiles and I'm not driving a V6 truck. A Highlander barely has more ground clearance than my cars. It's also a crossover which is not an option for me.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Toyota sequoia is a full size suv hybrid.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's a expensive, bloated piece of shit with IRS and a V6.
I drive a Higlander for a living. Theyre surprisingly luxurious but they feel underpowered. Going up a hill is a challenge. Good fuel economy if it's a hybrid
Or you could just drive a V8 half ton for less that's faster than it should be.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Tell that to my company. They sourced hybrids due to their fuel economy but considering what they haul, they are very underpowered.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It's a expensive, bloated piece of shit with IRS and a V6.
Sequoia finally went back to solid axle... but at the cost of a decent engine as you mentioned.
Your choices are good BOF solid axle with minivan engine or BOF with minivan suspension and decent engine
1 year ago
Anonymous
The Highlander is a Camry on stilts and wishes it was half the SUV the 4Runner was
t. FWD base model Highlander driver
1 year ago
Anonymous
I liked my highlander. It could just drive over things I didn't think it should. That said 4runner is coming out with a hybrid soon. Sequoia is coming out with one this year for 2023 model. That said the hybrid sequoia still somehow only gets 20mpg.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I still want a 4Runner because I never felt like I was in anything but a Camry
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I've definitely got my eyes on that 4runner hybrid coming out. I want to be able to go anywhere off road but want good gas mileage too.
>Americans justify this
I don't want to drive a FWD shitbox.
Me either.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>The hybrid ones with 2/4wd switch about are great for it as they ahve seperate motors for each wheel the can work seperately to maintain tractions.
What the frick are you talking about? Did you get high while riding a bus?
we rent a tahoe or other large SUV for our year snowboard trips. much comfier then a truck and its not ours so we dont really care how its treated. i transport lumber, music gear and camping equipment in my honda fit all the time and will occasionally transport soil for the garden and furniture for the house. it could easily fit a fridge as well.
>we rent a tahoe or other large SUV for our year snowboard trips
Why the frick would you only go snowboarding once a year? Are you going to rent one every single weekend?
1 year ago
Anonymous
we all go as a large group once a year you daft Black person. everyone is on a different schedule so we usually plan the trip and set aside a date in august. the fit is perfectly capable of transporting three people and their gear for a day/weekend trip.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>snowboarding >august
What shithole do you live in lol? Also only once a year lol? Here you gotta go every weekend to get the most out of your season pass. Yet you say it's bullshit when people say they need 400+ mile EV's. Well this is why people need the range, because we're actually allowed to do shit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
what is the meaning of this?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Keeps one animal or another out/off of the car.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I've been skiing all over the US and Canada, what the frick is this moronation? I have never seen this lol.
Someone might door ding me, let me beat them to the punch by dinging my car with sticks all over the place. What the frick even is this?
This might be hard for a poorgay european like you to understand, but in America a V8 is considered a ‘standard’ engine. Anything less is for people living in abject poverty. >that’s just wasteful!!!
So is indoor plumbing. What was once a luxury is now considered an ubiquitous bare minimum, because the population is rich enough that they won’t accept anything less. Don’t worry, you’ll get there too eventually; provided your nanny government doesn’t ban private car ownership before then.
I remember not that long ago europeans used to think that home air condition was an american decadence, now most newbuilt housing in europe comes with aircon as standard. So you’re catching up to us, slowly!
1 year ago
Anonymous
The average American drives a Civic at best, on finance of course. And has to take out another loan if something major ever breaks on it because he doesn't have $1000 in savings.
Lee Canyon ski resort base lodge is at 8,660 feet elevation (summit is 11,289).
Las Vegas strip is at about 2,000 feet.
It's a 45 minute drive.
I can load up my Bronco with 4 friends and all of our gear and get there when the road is covered with fresh powder.
You're not doing that with a Citreon.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Okay, that's true. If that's something you do semi-regularly, then of course a pickup is great. But then you might be the exception not the rule.
>rain and snow
San Diego averages 7" of annual rainfall.
Las Vegas averages 4".
And here's an idea- don't go shopping during a blizzard.
I don't think that those desert cities are representative of the entire country.
Also snow doesn't come solely in form of blizzards
rich people always pay others to do shit for them moron
1 year ago
Anonymous
Depends on the person and their wealth level. It pretty much comes down to time vs money. If they can get it done themselves easily without wasting time they're going to do it themselves. You would be surprised how cheap they can be even though they got a $10m house with $60m in the bank.
>fridge
The same place you bought it has employees who get paid to transport appliances. Its also covered by insurance if something happens to it during transport, which is something you don't get when you move it yourself. >boat
not my thing >hay
no farm land >dirtbike
bikes are moronic by design, not my thing
>The same place you bought it has employees who get paid to transport appliances.
You also have to take the day off and wait for them. That's so much easier than just stopping by the store after work and doing it myself aka being a man which is probably "not your thing". I can also move it with more care myself than a bunch of guys who have to move 30 of them a day. You're also not really "covered" when they damage shit. They'll offer you a 10% discount on it or take it back and make you wait months for a refurbished replacement.
A boat is just about the only thing on your list that can't be conveniently hauled by a human-sized car
A car isn't making it to the dirt bike trailhead and hay is heavier than you think.
>You're also not really "covered" when they damage shit.
Just because you can't negotiate doesn't mean everybody else in the world is a pussy. > That's so much easier than just stopping by the store after work and doing it myself aka being a man which is probably "not your thing". I can also move it with more care myself than a bunch of guys who have to move 30 of them a day.
Nah, you're just a narcissistic c**t with that "I can do it better than the 'professionals'" mentality. The same logic used by filthy causals who insist on doing their own maintenance on their car because they know better than an actual reputable mechanic. We also charge customers more if we have to undo their work which interferes with our job, it just costs them more in the long run than if they weren't arrogant narcissists
1 year ago
Anonymous
> That's so much easier than just stopping by the store after work and doing it myself aka being a man which is probably "not your thing". I can also move it with more care myself than a bunch of guys who have to move 30 of them a day. >you're just a narcissistic c**t.
Not him, but you should have a nice day. Its natural for man to get things themselves rather than relying on other people.
>A car isn't making it to the dirt bike trailhead
That didn't really come to mind, I was thinking purely in terms of weight, a compact car like that will tow a bike to a track no issue >hay is heavier than you think
Idk man, my uncle had no major issues towing trailers full of gravel and crushed stone in a shitbox Fabia when we were fixing up his driveway. Though I do admit that I'd rather not see the state of his clutch after having to stop and then get moving up a hill
1 year ago
Anonymous
You do realize a round bale of hay weighs anywhere from 800-1200 lbs right, my 30ft trailer carries 22 of them at ~900 lbs plus 7700 lbs for the trailer. Puts me at 27k with a full load.
Imagine living in a land of non-existing consumer protection laws. >be me >order clothes dryer from appliance retailer >have them deliver it to my home >delivery guy arrives and we notice there is a tear in the plastic wrap on the side >we open the side and see minor cosmetic damage on the metal panel >driver apologizes >"we just got a delivery, I'm almost certain we have several pieces of this exact model still in stock" >the guy takes dryer back and delivers a mint replacement 3 hours later, apologizing again
Even if you have to take a day off how often do you buy fridges moron? Is a day waiting at home every 5-6 years really that big of a deal?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Like I said multiple fridges that don't last means a trip to the store/landfill every year or two. You also act like fridges are the only thing to move when you own a house. The same goes for gardening bullshit and furniture. I like doing things when I fricking want not waiting on others, hence why I own vehicles and don't use the bus.
>how do you transport a fridge
I don't, the store delivers it, or if I really need to move it or whatever I'll just pay someone with a truck to do so >or a boat >your boat is able to be transported by land
Just call it what it is, a canoe >or a stack of hay?
If I had any reason to transport hay around I'd have a tractor and/or commercial truck to do so
or a dirtbike?
It's a bike, you drive it unless it's dead, you would know that if you weren't LARPing
God Americans are so pathetic, no wonder their ancestors were kicked from europe
That's really small but I can see it working, as a jet ski
>It's a bike, you drive it unless it's dead
What a fricking moron.
Another basement dweller that has no idea what the world has to offer or what it takes to get there.
I suggest you stream "Crusty Demons of Dirt", preferably volume 2.
>fatass can't ride a fricking dirtbike and has to buy a truck to move it around >somehow thinks everybody else is a basement dweller
Sorry didn't knew that with "dirtbike" you meant your mobility scooter with offroad tires
1 year ago
Anonymous
An actual dirtbike isn't street legal for one you fricking moron.
And are you going to ride your shitty dual sport for 300 miles out to the desert where the nearest town is 50 miles away and camp for 4 days with whatever you could strap to the back seat?
Food, water, fuel, shelter....
You don't go there to sit at a camp fire.
You go to ride all day.
You couldn't haul enough fuel let alone everything else on the list.
Go back to your basement, dumbshit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Look at all this fat infused cope >An actual dirtbike isn't street legal for one you fricking moron. >caring about being street legal or not
It's either some pathetic homosexual cope or you're an actual commie >And are you going to ride your shitty dual sport for 300 miles out to the desert where the nearest town is 50 miles away and camp for 4 days with whatever you could strap to the back seat?
Yes, maybe even more >Food, water, fuel, shelter....
Yes >You don't go there to sit at a camp fire. >You go to ride all day.
Yes, that's what you do when you ride bikes as a hobby, if I wanted to sit at a campfire all day I'd take camping as a hobby >You couldn't haul enough fuel let alone everything else on the list.
You can haul that any much more when you're not an obese piece of shit
It's clear to me that you're a LARPer that financed a truck because you felt really insecure with people driving trucks around you, and now has to justify your huge piece of shit with some feeble excuse for practicality, pretty pathetic behavior all around
1 year ago
Anonymous
If you're too fat to ride a dirtbike you're definitely too fat to get it into a truck.
Anyone regularly getting a dirtbike into a pickup truck is fit and coordinated.
>It's a bike, you drive it unless it's dead
What a fricking moron.
Another basement dweller that has no idea what the world has to offer or what it takes to get there.
I suggest you stream "Crusty Demons of Dirt", preferably volume 2.
>fridge
what, a truck comes home and installs it for you >boat
Where do you even want to tow a boat? you can just rent a truck for a day >a stack of hay
You can tow it but generally farmers have a pickup with good torque >a dirtbike
You can tow that even with a 500
>just have someone deliver and install it for you >just rent a truck
This is the europoor mindset.
Peons that rely on someone else. >I'll just pay someone to do it for me because I'm incapable of doing it myself.
>trailer
Isn’t the yuropoor complaint about pickups the weight plus the length? Your proposed alternative is to make the hatchback longer and as heavy as a pickup? AND have to pay extra for the registration and plates for the trailer in addition to the car? moronic.
On no no no anon. You’re going to justify to the class why you need that big gas guzzling waste of space. Here’s a hint, there is no justification. Turn in your keys and get yourself a bus pass. You’re going to save the environment and enable your enslavement by global elites whether you like it or not
The USA is the richest country in the world, and one of the largest as most developed, and therefore its citizens can afford to buy larger and more expensive vehicles. The infrastructure and land accommodate these large vehicles well.
>56% of Americans have to go into debt for a small emergency
Shit happens. If an average American hit a pothole and busted their tire and/or rim, they'd need to go into debt to fix it.
America lacks a winter mindset, so they never save for a rainy day. They spend everything in times of plenty and starve in times of famine. Americans have close to no income after taxes and expenses, regardless of social class except for the wealthy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Americans are fat >Americans are starving
Which is it europoors?
1 year ago
Anonymous
And yet, the roads are filled with those vehicles. It doesn't matter how many economic statistics you pull out of your hat, the real world conflicts with your perceived notions.
1 year ago
Anonymous
When you technically own something but it's financed, along with your other debts and your income barely covers your outgoings can you really class that as being able to afford it?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yadda yadda, you sound like a banker with all this economic jargon.
1 year ago
Chud Anon
>If an average American hit a pothole and busted their tire and/or rim, they'd need to go into debt to fix it.
That’s not what the chart says moron. Yuroshart education.
1 year ago
Anonymous
These percentages don't even add up to 100%
1 year ago
Anonymous
These percentages don't even add up to 100%
Fricking kek.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This, this, this. Sure Europeans pay higher taxes around 35% of their income, but they get a huge return on their investment, including single payer healthcare, much cheaper university costs, much longer paid leave, etc. Meanwhile Americans pay around 20% of their income in taxes and still have shitty roads, horrid public school systems, criminally expensive health care, and the joke of social security not going to last for the future generations. Also 40% of Americans are morbidly obese now. This can't be said for your grandparent's generation, they were on average, in much better shape. Pathetic.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You moronic mutt europoors pay far more than 35% in taxes. That may be the income tax rate but they also pay $4 in taxes on every gallon. 10% of the purchase price of a vehicle every year for 10 years if the engine is larger than 2.0L and may more INSANE taxes on shit that eats away at their take home pay leaving them with less money than burgerfat poors.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Meanwhile Americans pay around 20% of their income in taxes and still have >shitty roads,
Only in blue areas, 98% of the roads in America are pristine, if you think the roads going into Shitcago or Philadelphia resemble that of America you are sadly mistaken. >horrid public school systems,
The biggest problem with public school is this notion from low income parents that school is a daycare to free them of children for the day. The second issue is that we force people that don’t want to go to school to keep going bringing down the chance for other students to learn.
>criminally expensive health care,
This is a meme, healthcare in America is very affordable and the poors have free or extremely cheap government care.
I pay less than 0.1% of my income on healthcare any given year and insurance takes care of the rest.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Poorest state is Mississippi. Britain has an identical GDP per capita as Mississippi. You have no idea how poor you actually are.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>GDP per capita >a value that fluctuates every day along with the country's currency >using it as a measure of the standard of living.
You're amazingly moronic.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You are so butthurt when confronted with your own inferiority. Has to be depressing living your whole life in vassal country.
1 year ago
Anonymous
In reality they are even poorer. Tons of taxes, everything from cars to electronics to groceries costs more, a literal shoebox apartment is more expensive than a McMansion etc.
Most debt is owned by the certain private individuals who own the Federal Reserve. They loan the dollar with interest to the united states.
It's big business and we all know who is involved with big bank business.
>comparing a nation of 350 million to microstates with less than 2 million people
Lol
Now remove Black folk and illegal alien hispanics from the statistics
Are you saying that less than 2 million people can accomplish more than 350 americans?
1 year ago
Anonymous
moron
The average American drives a Civic at best, on finance of course. And has to take out another loan if something major ever breaks on it because he doesn't have $1000 in savings.
Over 50% of all new car sales in the US are comprised of the big 3 fullsize pickups. More F150s are sold every year than any other individual model of car IN THE WORLD.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>More F150s are sold every year than any other individual model of car IN THE WORLD.
A quick google search would tell you that Toyota Corolla and Rav4 is selling way better among several other models that sell better than the F150
based and subhumanpilled
white men made a median of 62k before 2020
idk what the recent stats are prob higher
1 year ago
Anonymous
>white men made a median of 62k before 2020
No they didn't. Theres no way just the White Male population offset the median to almost twice the overal Median of 35k
1 year ago
Anonymous
women and subhumans get paid under the table a lot depressing the official numbers
North America isn’t yurop. Our roads are wider than the average American. And we can afford cars larger than a shoebox clown car. Hope I explained it. Look up burger trucks in Germany, Poland or Norway and prepare to seethe.
t. Canadian who’s blessed to not be a cucked yuropoor
Ironically rural leaves own more guns than the Americans.
>fridge
what, a truck comes home and installs it for you >boat
Where do you even want to tow a boat? you can just rent a truck for a day >a stack of hay
You can tow it but generally farmers have a pickup with good torque >a dirtbike
You can tow that even with a 500
>Where do you even want to tow a boat? you can just rent a truck for a day
Do you not understand what a lake is? You're going to rent a truck every weekend in the summer? That seems real economical.
I thought your boat was at sea. So you have 1 actual application for a boat which costs as much as your pickup, unless it's a small one and you can tow that with an SUV? Do all americans have big boats that they move around the country every week?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Do all americans have big boats that they move around the country every week?
There are a lot of lakes in America. Also, many of the rivers like the Potomic are large enough for a bass boat to traverse. I don't have a boat but I've been thinking of buying one. A cheap 16' bass boat for my lake that is a 10 minute drive away would be great. I normally haul thinks with my outback and a small 4'x8' trailer but If I want to haul a boat I would have to upgrade to a much more expensive trainer with brakes to haul my boat and even then my transmission isn't designed for that kind of abuse as I would be fishing every weekend. It also doesn't help that I live in a mountainous region and my Outback would struggle hauling a boat. Until I get a truck I'm probably going to stick to fishing from my Kayak.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Do all americans have big boats that they move around the country every week?
Not all of them but there's over 10 on my street alone. The storage lots here are packed with them. Keep in mind a lake boat can weigh anywhere from 3000lbs to 7000+lbs which most SUV's can't comfortably tow.
My fridge did. Maybe yours keeps shitting itself because the little motor is having to cool half a year's worth of food
A modern fridge won't last. t. appliance repair technician.
>Ironically rural leaves own more guns than the Americans.
no they don't. america has the most guns in the world. both in shear numbers and per capita. we have 4x as many guns as canadians going by per capita.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>no they don't. america has the most guns in the world. both in shear numbers and per capita. we have 4x as many guns as canadians going by per capita.
Canadian cities are almost completely nogunz since there's no concealed carry and handguns can only be used at shooting ranges. The only province with meaningful numbers of urban gun owners is Alberta, and otherwise the 6.6mil rural Canadians probably own 75% of all the guns in the country.
Rural Canada isn't better armed than the average red state, but I think it's probably true that they're better armed than the statistically average American that owns 1.2 guns.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Obviously the US has more guns in general and per capita. That's not what the anon you greentexted said though. Try again.
because a lot of euro roads date back hundreds of years while NA's were designed much later.
I don't think they're about to bulldoze a bunch of buildings to build wider roads.
That truck is over a foot wider than your biggest vans there and it's not even a big truck. I don't think you realize how massive American trucks are compared to european vehicles.
because Europe has had civilization built upon it for thousands of years and old roads and institutions have been built in places we can't just bulldoze through to make roads.
I see Jimnys with Mexican plates periodically here in Los Angeles and I get butthurt that we don't get them in the US. Also have been seeing a lot of Hiluxes lately. Also a Peugeot pickup truck.
Europoors will never understand.
Doesn't matter how many times you try to drive it into the skull.
This is a people that are content with taking a train to the ski slopes and renting gear when they get there because they don't have enough storage room in their 300 square foot shithole apartment to store a fricking snowboard.
Americans justify what? Not driving a circus side show micro car? I get it’s funny once or twice but the joke really doesn’t age well repeatedly after a week.
Are you going to drive that 200 miles to Glamis, with enough gear and food to camp for 4 days in the desert?
Europoors have no clue what Americans have available to them.
You're peons.
Serfs.
Peasants that aren't even allowed to use your governments land.
>Has to go into debt every time something slightly goes wrong with his car >Too moronic to understand that a decent hatchback/sedan with a cheap ass trailer can do the same >You're peons.
Manufacturers producing real cars not this cheapo cucked stuff for midgets like in your picture. B-body was canceled to literally give way to more trucks and truck-based SUVs.
I've driven several thousands kilometers through Yurop in a Golf like the one pictured. Never again. The older BMW 1 Series was way better, but both are too underpowered in most trims even without the trailer, and probably shit out their trannies and overheat with one, especially in the hills/mountains.
What vehicle those clown mirrors did belong to, by the way? A 1950s tractor?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I am taller than 89.3% of your population moron. I get that you're morbidly obese and can't fit in anything smaller than a ulitity vehicle. Honestly the fact that you could drive a golf and not pop it's tires from the sheer weight your lard ass ads on it is a show of how much a regular hatchback and toll/carry.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>being this mad
I'm not even *merican lol
1 year ago
Anonymous
Cope
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that's the usual reason for so many ad hominems. Add *mericans living rent free in one's head and we'll get something very close to that post.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Ironic picture, anyone stuck in a rabbit can’t afford a camper.
Why do you think a starter for an F150 costs more than a starter for a Peugeot?
Oh ya, because you're a fricking idiot. >just get a trailer.
Ah yes, the ever moving goalpost..
You are only allowed one parking spot in your government controlled apartment complex. Where are you going to store your trailer?
Oh that's right, you don't have a trailer.
Meanwhile the average American family has 3 cars.
I have a classic truck, a 4x4, a muscle car and a shitbox DD commuter.
Wife has her own car.
Kids each have their own car.
And yes, you're a peon.
Because they were underappreciated they all got beaten and totaled until they became rare-ish. Also Democrat government devaluing our money didn't help.
I own an F250 and want a kei truck. When I was in Japan they were literally everywhere. It can't tow 10k, but would be useful as hell around my property. Still, my F250 serves a purpose.
I'm 6'4, I really don't fit in some smaller cars. Fortunately I'm not pigfat so I can tolerate short rides in a pinch. But I do want a big tall vehicle next, back is starting to go out a bit, can feel it just getting in an out of my car now.
I drive a Higlander for a living. Theyre surprisingly luxurious but they feel underpowered. Going up a hill is a challenge. Good fuel economy if it's a hybrid
americans get to experience V8s and 4x4 pickup trucks at the expense of
>every non-V8 engine is terrible >almost every non-pickup truck vehicle is shit >some of the best exotics are unavailable at release (959, XJ220, koenigseggs, etc) >dogshit roads and infrastructure >even more dogshit drivers
>americans get to experience V8s and 4x4 pickup trucks at the expense of
non-V8 engine is terrible
every non-pickup truck vehicle is shit
This trade off is very easy to make, only poors in America have to deal with the 4/6 cylinder shitbox engines.
As for every non-BOF vehicle being shit - you can thank the government for reducing our offerings over this moronic pursuit of bettering fleet fuel economy.
If they made one of these with a fold down midgate I'd buy one immediately
I like the idea of a separate cargo area but I don't like the idea of being unable to reach it somehow from the interior.
Reaching stuff from the interior is not very convenient in these. The idea was that you can transport stuff significantly longer than your bed from time to time (it's a bit noisy thing to do), and if it's less than 50-something cm high, you can even protect it from the weather to some degree while doing that (the bed cover and the midgate are weather-sealed, but not watertight, there are rubber seals and multiple drain channels around them). As a bonus you can use your rear window as a vent and sleep in the truck with comfort. But you can't carry too much weight in the bed compared to trucks with separate beds because it puts too much stress on the body the frame can't relieve. You can't use camper modules either, but some people still try.
t.owner
Many Americans have crippling insecurities which car manufacturers prey on. Soccer moms need huge suvs to feel safe and boomer men need oversized pickups to feel masculine.
This, thought I wish they calm down on the safety regulations that ironically make cars more unsafe by bloating them, and emissions stuff that just serve to Gump cars in general
It's the worst. Cars all have been getting bigger over the past few decades, but pickups are by far the worst offenders. And ironically the bigger they've gotten the less they are actually used for their intended purpose. 80% of truck owners these days use it to commute to their office job and to run errands, that's it. Almost all off all of them have those large ass cabins, so they can fit their family in their trucks, instead of you know, getting a van or something, nope it has to be a truck. They buy it out of pure vanity. Nobody who actually uses their truck for work needs all that fancy electronic stuff, only people who buy it to show off do. Because of their huge size and increased height they also have way more blind spots than other cars or older trucks. If your own child was standing in front of your bumper you simply wouldn't see them, there's been an increase in pedestrian fatalities largely because of that.
The cargo part looks pretty small for a truck of that size. About the size of the boot of a Skoda Octavia with the seats folded down, except exposed to the elements.
This is the thing I really don't understand about trucks, the open boot.
Stuff you want to carry is exposed to rain and snow, it ruins your aerodynamics and isn't even that big.
Of course you can do with your money what you want and frick everyone who disagrees, but I don't buy it when truckdrivers say that a truck is a practical dd or a family car.
It’s a farm vehicle. You’re throw muddy tools and livestock in the back and it’s isolated away from the cabin unlike in a van or some hatchback with the seats folded down. It’s not meant to be a white collar urban runabout. >then why can urban people buy them
Because America isn’t a communist shithole where certain people are banned from owning property because of where they live/what job they have. If someone wants to buy something they have no use for, it’s their money to spend.
Fair enough, in Europe too everyone is free to drive a tractor or an RV or a large commercial van or an American pickup. However, you can't expect the state to pay for free ample parking in every urban area for your oversized vehicle. That actually would be communism. I'm not paying with my taxes so some moron can go grocery shopping in his RV because he's too cheap to get another, appropriately-sized vehicle.
In the US every parking spot in every Walmart, in every White Castle and every Taco Bell needs to be able to fit a large truck and so do the roads leading to them. So you've got this sea of concrete and asphalt that costs a ton to maintain, money that isn't there. That's why American infrastructure is crumbling so hard. I've been to Greece and Eastern Europe and nowhere was there a "pothole situation" as bad as in your average American city.
>trailer
Isn’t the yuropoor complaint about pickups the weight plus the length? Your proposed alternative is to make the hatchback longer and as heavy as a pickup? AND have to pay extra for the registration and plates for the trailer in addition to the car? moronic.
Hint: You only use the trailer when you need it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The state doesn’t create parking, the property owner does. The state DOES tell property owners what kind of parking to make, though. And in the US, they mandate a certain percentage of spots must be for ‘compact’ cars.
>american roads are wide
To fit a four-horse stagecoach, not cars. American cars were designed to fit the roads that already existed. >american infrastructure
Is only bad in left wing-ran urban areas, because they take all the money that’s supposed to be set aside for infrastructure and instead put it into welfare systems to feed and house Black folk and illegals who refuse to work. Then they b***h about how bad the roads are, raise taxes to fund infrastructure, and then put all THAT money into welfare as well.
>More F150s are sold every year than any other individual model of car IN THE WORLD.
A quick google search would tell you that Toyota Corolla and Rav4 is selling way better among several other models that sell better than the F150
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/g42487365/most-popular-used-cars-and-trucks-of-2022/
You didn’t look hard. >that’s just used
Read past the first sentence.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Is only bad in left wing-ran urban areas
its pretty bad across the country. There are so few freight and passenger rail lines in the country its pretty easy to see why the logistics are so bad all the time. The fact that your effective choices are to either fly or drive to maine from california or wherever is pretty fricking stupid seeing as Europe has multiple fast routes that can be taken cheaply and effortlessly.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>muh rail
The US transports a greater percentage of its GDP cargo via rail than any other country on the planet.
>Used cars >Not worldwide
What happened to "More F150s are sold every year than any other individual model of car IN THE WORLD." ?
Please stop embarassing yourself
>confirmed to not read past the first sentence
>To fit a four-horse stagecoach, not cars. American cars were designed to fit the roads that already existed.
Blatantly false. Do you think this type of a road, as you can find it in almost any American town, was already like this in 1900?
>t-that’s false
moron
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh I read it. You're just using it as a crutch because you now feel like a moron (as you should).
Now, explain to me how the Ford F150 is the best selling car IN THE WORLD and not just in the domestic American market.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah, the domestic American USED market that is. I just had to put the cherry on top.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Used cars >Not worldwide
What happened to "More F150s are sold every year than any other individual model of car IN THE WORLD." ?
Please stop embarassing yourself
1 year ago
Anonymous
>To fit a four-horse stagecoach, not cars. American cars were designed to fit the roads that already existed.
Blatantly false. Do you think this type of a road, as you can find it in almost any American town, was already like this in 1900?
1 year ago
Anonymous
And before you say “that’s an urban street”, here’s a typical old west town’s main street
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Ford-150 is the best selling car in the world, here's my source an article exclusively about used car sales in the US
Embarrassing
1 year ago
Anonymous
>third sentence includes a link to how the F150 is the best selling new vehicle as well
100% confirmed illiterate, GG no re
Oh I read it. You're just using it as a crutch because you now feel like a moron (as you should).
Now, explain to me how the Ford F150 is the best selling car IN THE WORLD and not just in the domestic American market.
>US is the single largest market for new cars >best selling model is F150 >can’t put it together
1 year ago
Anonymous
I have a hunch that you might not know that the best selling USED car on your domestic market does not translate to being the best sold car IN THE WORLD. Also you're saying that the US is the largest market for new cars and yet you refer to used cars statistics. There are 195 countries on earth. Hopefully you are not this stupid.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>continues to aggressively confirm his illiteracy
Lol
1 year ago
Anonymous
At this point I truly only feel bad for you
1 year ago
Anonymous
Dunning kruger on display.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Not that anon but all you have is evidence is the best selling vehicle in the US, your premise that it then must be the best selling vehicle in the world just because the US is the biggest vehicle market amongst individual nations is where your argument completely falls apart.
You might be correct that it's the best selling vehicle global but you have no evidence for it seemingly, and the fact that F-150 is sold almost exclusively in North America and other models are sold across regions which accumulate to keep markets makes this doubtful.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The actual reality is I was mixing the sales statistics of full-sized pickups in general with that of the F150 exclusively. The fact they’re only sold in America is irrelevant when you remember more new cars are sold in the US alone than in the entirety of the EU. It’s the same reason why GM and Toyota constantly trade places for the biggest car companies in the world, even though GM’s sales outside of north america are practically non-existent.
Something like 2.4 million new full-size pickups were sold in the US last year, excluding the Titan and Tundra. According to Toyota’s own website, they only sold 1.5 million Corollas globally in 2015 (most recent statistic I could find). Remember though, the new car market was booming in 2015 but has retracted hard in 2020-2022.
The real crux of the argument is this entire argument is one giant deflection from the main point I was originally makinng; that is, that in America, V8s are considered ‘basic equipment’. The other guy hyperfocused on my claim about F150 global sales because he had no counterargument to the main point of my original post. He hopes that if he pushes that argument long enough, I will forget what we were originally talking about and he can take the W.
My bank statement is my rancher house, my V8 pickup, and my fishing boat. Your bank statement is your apartment, 1.3L diesel hatchback, and your bus pass.
how do you transport a fridge or a boat with that tiny ass clown cuck car? or a stack of hay? or a dirtbike?
>stack of hay
Everything else is valid but why tf would I drive around with a stack of hay? I'm not a farmer and neither are most truck drivers
>I'm not a farmer
sucks to suck, but you could also put a watertank or welding equipment or barrells of oil on there, or an AA gun, but I guess you homosexuals are too cucked for guns
Post your truck mounted anti-air gun please.
>he doesn't drive with an 88mil flak cannon strapped to the back of his vehicle to deter road goblins
ngmi
If by water tank, you mean you're fat ass, then yes, you'd need a monster truck for it's towing capability.
What's the point of owning a gun when you lads never use them, for anything ever, and let all the corruption happen without resistance? You didn't do shit during the great chimpout, you didn't so shit during the meme lockdowns and you didn't do anything during the 2020 elections. You, owning guns, as a concept/on paper, is amazing and I am very jealous indeed, don't get me wrong. But I am starting to see just why they let you have them [guns] because you will comply with anything anyway, so you're not a thread to anyone.
Sorry for the long off-topic post.
>tl;dr
Little less conversation, a little more action please.
Do you think only farmers have use for hay? That shits used on construction sites and landscaping all the fricking time.
ive seen that. what do they use it for?
It is for covering up dirt for erosion and to help with the grass growing after the dirt gets torn up.
To control water runoff and prevent soil erosion.
Also used to protect grass seed from weather, said erosion and birds.
Euros don't even keep a hay room in their house? lol wtf is wrong with you queers?
Fold the seats down and put it in the back. Why the frick do mutts not understand how hatchbacks and station wagons work.
I think your underestimating the size of the average American fridge. There about 3x bigger than your little euro cuck fridge.
Definitely sounds like a real use case problem either way I'm sure there's no way you could have that delivered when you buy a new one every twenty years
Yea but I need it now to hold all my fricking burgers m8
Fridges don't last 20 years lol. You might get 10 if you're really lucky. Now when you got multiple fridges/freezers trips to the appliance store and the landfill become pretty common. Same goes for TV's.
Have they not figured out skyscrapers yet?
>Have they not figured out skyscrapers yet?
Yes...? How exactly do skyscrapers fix the width of the roads?
Bulldoze the 2000 year old pieces of shit and build a more narrow but taller building to replace it. That way you keep the same surface area and volume inside it. It's like elementary level math...
Because we were smart.
American cities were built for horses too not cars, just like the ones in Europe. They just didn't give a shit and bulldozed them in the 50s.
>bulldozed them in the 50s
Where? My city’s downtown is nearly the same as it was in 1910. The ‘car-oriented’ suburbs were all built in what was originally open woodland and swamps.
I still use a freezer made in 1958.
>i need a pickup truck because i buy a new fridge every 10 years
holy shit
You know it's normal here to have multiple fridges in your house, right? Of course the people with washers and dryer s in their kitchen can't comprehend this.
My fridge did. Maybe yours keeps shitting itself because the little motor is having to cool half a year's worth of food
get it delivered and let someone else do the hard work for you.
>how do you transport a fridge
how often do you buy fridges? have it delivered
>or a boat
it lives in the marina, I don't have to tow it around
>or a stack of hay
I'm not a farmer, I've never had to move a stack of hay
>or a dirtbike
white trash entertaniment, no thanks.
>how do you transport a fridge
It comes delivered, you should know this
>or a boat
I live on the coastline, never had to tow my boats on the road.
>stack of hay (or similar items)
I rent a pickup for a day if it's needed, but it's so rare it happens once in 2-3 years
>a dirtbike
Why? Can't I just drive the dirtbike where I want it, otherwise if I REALLY need it in the car I can fold the seats down, maybe a golf can't fit it but my 5 series wagon can.
Dirtbikes aren't street legal. Dual sports are.
Not owning a truck while owning a motorcycle actually really sucks:
>need to buy a fat ADV if you want to go offroad anywhere far
>basically no way of getting bike to mechanic if it can't run on its own power
>if bike can run on its own power, taking to mechanic ends up being two cab fares per appointment
>buying bikes out of state becomes a huge pain in the ass as rental trucks become hundreds of dollars and are not always available
>basically can't own dirtbikes at all
What I always wonder is how do you go snowboarding or surfing with a couple friends? Where is your gear suppose to go?
>roof rack
>lol just rent a truck for the day.
Those are the usual excuses, by people that apparently never go outside because my snowboard gear alone is a 40 gallon duffel bag + multiple boards for various slope conditions. You're not getting that x3 onto a roof rack of some europoor shitbox.
You're also not renting a truck every weekend.
It's like anti-truck gays have no life outside of the internet and have never experienced a need for anything other than an appliance tier vehicle to bring their chicken teddies home.
I fit my snowbard and mountain bike in my mitsubishi mirage you moron. Literally in the trunk with the back reads folded down.
Cars don't quite cut it for MTB'ing where I live. I drive a sedan and a wagon but I still have to carpool with my friends to get to the good trailheads. While my bike fits fine in both I don't got the ground clearance or traction to get to the good spots.
You should be able to get a moderate size suv that can handle it. The hybrid ones with 2/4wd switch about are great for it as they ahve seperate motors for each wheel the can work seperately to maintain tractions.
There is no such thing as a hybrid SUV anymore. Those are all crossovers. A true BOF SUV with a real 4x4 system would be ideal but those don't really exist anymore. I will get a half or 3/4 ton truck once I get more parking spots and once the use market fricks off.
4runner is expect to get a hybrid soon. The highland should honestly do everything you want as well.
4Runners are chick mobiles and I'm not driving a V6 truck. A Highlander barely has more ground clearance than my cars. It's also a crossover which is not an option for me.
Toyota sequoia is a full size suv hybrid.
It's a expensive, bloated piece of shit with IRS and a V6.
Or you could just drive a V8 half ton for less that's faster than it should be.
Tell that to my company. They sourced hybrids due to their fuel economy but considering what they haul, they are very underpowered.
>It's a expensive, bloated piece of shit with IRS and a V6.
Sequoia finally went back to solid axle... but at the cost of a decent engine as you mentioned.
Your choices are good BOF solid axle with minivan engine or BOF with minivan suspension and decent engine
The Highlander is a Camry on stilts and wishes it was half the SUV the 4Runner was
t. FWD base model Highlander driver
I liked my highlander. It could just drive over things I didn't think it should. That said 4runner is coming out with a hybrid soon. Sequoia is coming out with one this year for 2023 model. That said the hybrid sequoia still somehow only gets 20mpg.
I still want a 4Runner because I never felt like I was in anything but a Camry
Yeah, I've definitely got my eyes on that 4runner hybrid coming out. I want to be able to go anywhere off road but want good gas mileage too.
Me either.
>The hybrid ones with 2/4wd switch about are great for it as they ahve seperate motors for each wheel the can work seperately to maintain tractions.
What the frick are you talking about? Did you get high while riding a bus?
So you go mountain biking by yourself? Because you can't fit more than 1 bike in there.
we rent a tahoe or other large SUV for our year snowboard trips. much comfier then a truck and its not ours so we dont really care how its treated. i transport lumber, music gear and camping equipment in my honda fit all the time and will occasionally transport soil for the garden and furniture for the house. it could easily fit a fridge as well.
>we rent a tahoe or other large SUV for our year snowboard trips
Why the frick would you only go snowboarding once a year? Are you going to rent one every single weekend?
we all go as a large group once a year you daft Black person. everyone is on a different schedule so we usually plan the trip and set aside a date in august. the fit is perfectly capable of transporting three people and their gear for a day/weekend trip.
>snowboarding
>august
What shithole do you live in lol? Also only once a year lol? Here you gotta go every weekend to get the most out of your season pass. Yet you say it's bullshit when people say they need 400+ mile EV's. Well this is why people need the range, because we're actually allowed to do shit.
what is the meaning of this?
Keeps one animal or another out/off of the car.
I've been skiing all over the US and Canada, what the frick is this moronation? I have never seen this lol.
Someone might door ding me, let me beat them to the punch by dinging my car with sticks all over the place. What the frick even is this?
>he needs a bof v8 log axle 5,500 lbs truck to transport fricking snow boards
Good God you are pathetic.
This might be hard for a poorgay european like you to understand, but in America a V8 is considered a ‘standard’ engine. Anything less is for people living in abject poverty.
>that’s just wasteful!!!
So is indoor plumbing. What was once a luxury is now considered an ubiquitous bare minimum, because the population is rich enough that they won’t accept anything less. Don’t worry, you’ll get there too eventually; provided your nanny government doesn’t ban private car ownership before then.
I remember not that long ago europeans used to think that home air condition was an american decadence, now most newbuilt housing in europe comes with aircon as standard. So you’re catching up to us, slowly!
The average American drives a Civic at best, on finance of course. And has to take out another loan if something major ever breaks on it because he doesn't have $1000 in savings.
Lee Canyon ski resort base lodge is at 8,660 feet elevation (summit is 11,289).
Las Vegas strip is at about 2,000 feet.
It's a 45 minute drive.
I can load up my Bronco with 4 friends and all of our gear and get there when the road is covered with fresh powder.
You're not doing that with a Citreon.
Okay, that's true. If that's something you do semi-regularly, then of course a pickup is great. But then you might be the exception not the rule.
I don't think that those desert cities are representative of the entire country.
Also snow doesn't come solely in form of blizzards
hook up a trailer / destroy the transmission
or maybe hire a truck / van
>just pay others to do it for you
Maybe this is why you're soo poor??
rich people always pay others to do shit for them moron
Depends on the person and their wealth level. It pretty much comes down to time vs money. If they can get it done themselves easily without wasting time they're going to do it themselves. You would be surprised how cheap they can be even though they got a $10m house with $60m in the bank.
Just use a trailer lol
Which clown car is going to safely tow a 5000lb boat?
A boat is just about the only thing on your list that can't be conveniently hauled by a human-sized car
>fridge
The same place you bought it has employees who get paid to transport appliances. Its also covered by insurance if something happens to it during transport, which is something you don't get when you move it yourself.
>boat
not my thing
>hay
no farm land
>dirtbike
bikes are moronic by design, not my thing
>The same place you bought it has employees who get paid to transport appliances.
You also have to take the day off and wait for them. That's so much easier than just stopping by the store after work and doing it myself aka being a man which is probably "not your thing". I can also move it with more care myself than a bunch of guys who have to move 30 of them a day. You're also not really "covered" when they damage shit. They'll offer you a 10% discount on it or take it back and make you wait months for a refurbished replacement.
A car isn't making it to the dirt bike trailhead and hay is heavier than you think.
>You're also not really "covered" when they damage shit.
Just because you can't negotiate doesn't mean everybody else in the world is a pussy.
> That's so much easier than just stopping by the store after work and doing it myself aka being a man which is probably "not your thing". I can also move it with more care myself than a bunch of guys who have to move 30 of them a day.
Nah, you're just a narcissistic c**t with that "I can do it better than the 'professionals'" mentality. The same logic used by filthy causals who insist on doing their own maintenance on their car because they know better than an actual reputable mechanic. We also charge customers more if we have to undo their work which interferes with our job, it just costs them more in the long run than if they weren't arrogant narcissists
> That's so much easier than just stopping by the store after work and doing it myself aka being a man which is probably "not your thing". I can also move it with more care myself than a bunch of guys who have to move 30 of them a day.
>you're just a narcissistic c**t.
Not him, but you should have a nice day. Its natural for man to get things themselves rather than relying on other people.
>A car isn't making it to the dirt bike trailhead
That didn't really come to mind, I was thinking purely in terms of weight, a compact car like that will tow a bike to a track no issue
>hay is heavier than you think
Idk man, my uncle had no major issues towing trailers full of gravel and crushed stone in a shitbox Fabia when we were fixing up his driveway. Though I do admit that I'd rather not see the state of his clutch after having to stop and then get moving up a hill
You do realize a round bale of hay weighs anywhere from 800-1200 lbs right, my 30ft trailer carries 22 of them at ~900 lbs plus 7700 lbs for the trailer. Puts me at 27k with a full load.
Imagine living in a land of non-existing consumer protection laws.
>be me
>order clothes dryer from appliance retailer
>have them deliver it to my home
>delivery guy arrives and we notice there is a tear in the plastic wrap on the side
>we open the side and see minor cosmetic damage on the metal panel
>driver apologizes
>"we just got a delivery, I'm almost certain we have several pieces of this exact model still in stock"
>the guy takes dryer back and delivers a mint replacement 3 hours later, apologizing again
Even if you have to take a day off how often do you buy fridges moron? Is a day waiting at home every 5-6 years really that big of a deal?
Like I said multiple fridges that don't last means a trip to the store/landfill every year or two. You also act like fridges are the only thing to move when you own a house. The same goes for gardening bullshit and furniture. I like doing things when I fricking want not waiting on others, hence why I own vehicles and don't use the bus.
>how do you transport a fridge
I don't, the store delivers it, or if I really need to move it or whatever I'll just pay someone with a truck to do so
>or a boat
>your boat is able to be transported by land
Just call it what it is, a canoe
>or a stack of hay?
If I had any reason to transport hay around I'd have a tractor and/or commercial truck to do so
or a dirtbike?
It's a bike, you drive it unless it's dead, you would know that if you weren't LARPing
God Americans are so pathetic, no wonder their ancestors were kicked from europe
>euro's can't comprehend owning a lake boat
That's really small but I can see it working, as a jet ski
>fatass can't ride a fricking dirtbike and has to buy a truck to move it around
>somehow thinks everybody else is a basement dweller
Sorry didn't knew that with "dirtbike" you meant your mobility scooter with offroad tires
An actual dirtbike isn't street legal for one you fricking moron.
And are you going to ride your shitty dual sport for 300 miles out to the desert where the nearest town is 50 miles away and camp for 4 days with whatever you could strap to the back seat?
Food, water, fuel, shelter....
You don't go there to sit at a camp fire.
You go to ride all day.
You couldn't haul enough fuel let alone everything else on the list.
Go back to your basement, dumbshit.
Look at all this fat infused cope
>An actual dirtbike isn't street legal for one you fricking moron.
>caring about being street legal or not
It's either some pathetic homosexual cope or you're an actual commie
>And are you going to ride your shitty dual sport for 300 miles out to the desert where the nearest town is 50 miles away and camp for 4 days with whatever you could strap to the back seat?
Yes, maybe even more
>Food, water, fuel, shelter....
Yes
>You don't go there to sit at a camp fire.
>You go to ride all day.
Yes, that's what you do when you ride bikes as a hobby, if I wanted to sit at a campfire all day I'd take camping as a hobby
>You couldn't haul enough fuel let alone everything else on the list.
You can haul that any much more when you're not an obese piece of shit
It's clear to me that you're a LARPer that financed a truck because you felt really insecure with people driving trucks around you, and now has to justify your huge piece of shit with some feeble excuse for practicality, pretty pathetic behavior all around
If you're too fat to ride a dirtbike you're definitely too fat to get it into a truck.
Anyone regularly getting a dirtbike into a pickup truck is fit and coordinated.
>It's a bike, you drive it unless it's dead
What a fricking moron.
Another basement dweller that has no idea what the world has to offer or what it takes to get there.
I suggest you stream "Crusty Demons of Dirt", preferably volume 2.
Because they larp as rugged outdoorsmen on the 5 vacation days a year mr sheklestein peemits them. See:
>He needs to haul a dirt bike
OHHH SAYYY CAN YOU SEEEEE
>europoor can't comprehend the size of America
Once again we're talking about actual MX dirtbikes, not some poor excuse dual sport.
They're not road legal.
Look up "Glamis" on a map.
We have sand dunes in the U.S. bigger than your third world country.
>fridge
what, a truck comes home and installs it for you
>boat
Where do you even want to tow a boat? you can just rent a truck for a day
>a stack of hay
You can tow it but generally farmers have a pickup with good torque
>a dirtbike
You can tow that even with a 500
>just have someone deliver and install it for you
>just rent a truck
This is the europoor mindset.
Peons that rely on someone else.
>I'll just pay someone to do it for me because I'm incapable of doing it myself.
The fun thing is that most cuckboxes can actually tow like 3k pounds easily with an aftermarket hitch.
>trailer
Isn’t the yuropoor complaint about pickups the weight plus the length? Your proposed alternative is to make the hatchback longer and as heavy as a pickup? AND have to pay extra for the registration and plates for the trailer in addition to the car? moronic.
you transport it with a small trailer
nothing against trucks, but i never needed one
t. cuckbox and dirtbike owner
Frick off, I got work to do
Get off 4chinz then
On no no no anon. You’re going to justify to the class why you need that big gas guzzling waste of space. Here’s a hint, there is no justification. Turn in your keys and get yourself a bus pass. You’re going to save the environment and enable your enslavement by global elites whether you like it or not
Better chill out there, heavy metal dick. You’re lucky I’m on probation.
Based Cyrus enjoyer
The USA is the richest country in the world, and one of the largest as most developed, and therefore its citizens can afford to buy larger and more expensive vehicles. The infrastructure and land accommodate these large vehicles well.
>therefore its citizens can afford to buy larger and more expensive vehicles
They clearly can't, they live paycheck to paycheck.
>they clearly can't, even though they are.
>56% of Americans have to go into debt for a small emergency
Shit happens. If an average American hit a pothole and busted their tire and/or rim, they'd need to go into debt to fix it.
America lacks a winter mindset, so they never save for a rainy day. They spend everything in times of plenty and starve in times of famine. Americans have close to no income after taxes and expenses, regardless of social class except for the wealthy.
>Americans are fat
>Americans are starving
Which is it europoors?
And yet, the roads are filled with those vehicles. It doesn't matter how many economic statistics you pull out of your hat, the real world conflicts with your perceived notions.
When you technically own something but it's financed, along with your other debts and your income barely covers your outgoings can you really class that as being able to afford it?
Yadda yadda, you sound like a banker with all this economic jargon.
>If an average American hit a pothole and busted their tire and/or rim, they'd need to go into debt to fix it.
That’s not what the chart says moron. Yuroshart education.
These percentages don't even add up to 100%
Fricking kek.
This, this, this. Sure Europeans pay higher taxes around 35% of their income, but they get a huge return on their investment, including single payer healthcare, much cheaper university costs, much longer paid leave, etc. Meanwhile Americans pay around 20% of their income in taxes and still have shitty roads, horrid public school systems, criminally expensive health care, and the joke of social security not going to last for the future generations. Also 40% of Americans are morbidly obese now. This can't be said for your grandparent's generation, they were on average, in much better shape. Pathetic.
You moronic mutt europoors pay far more than 35% in taxes. That may be the income tax rate but they also pay $4 in taxes on every gallon. 10% of the purchase price of a vehicle every year for 10 years if the engine is larger than 2.0L and may more INSANE taxes on shit that eats away at their take home pay leaving them with less money than burgerfat poors.
>Meanwhile Americans pay around 20% of their income in taxes and still have
>shitty roads,
Only in blue areas, 98% of the roads in America are pristine, if you think the roads going into Shitcago or Philadelphia resemble that of America you are sadly mistaken.
>horrid public school systems,
The biggest problem with public school is this notion from low income parents that school is a daycare to free them of children for the day. The second issue is that we force people that don’t want to go to school to keep going bringing down the chance for other students to learn.
>criminally expensive health care,
This is a meme, healthcare in America is very affordable and the poors have free or extremely cheap government care.
I pay less than 0.1% of my income on healthcare any given year and insurance takes care of the rest.
Poorest state is Mississippi. Britain has an identical GDP per capita as Mississippi. You have no idea how poor you actually are.
>GDP per capita
>a value that fluctuates every day along with the country's currency
>using it as a measure of the standard of living.
You're amazingly moronic.
You are so butthurt when confronted with your own inferiority. Has to be depressing living your whole life in vassal country.
In reality they are even poorer. Tons of taxes, everything from cars to electronics to groceries costs more, a literal shoebox apartment is more expensive than a McMansion etc.
Richest country in the world when China owns all of our debt? Half of American families can't even afford a $500 emergency.
Most debt is owned by the certain private individuals who own the Federal Reserve. They loan the dollar with interest to the united states.
It's big business and we all know who is involved with big bank business.
>as most developed
According to the Human Development Index, no it fricking isn’t.
>The US is not even top 5 GDP per Capita
>comparing a nation of 350 million to microstates with less than 2 million people
Lol
Now remove Black folk and illegal alien hispanics from the statistics
Are you saying that less than 2 million people can accomplish more than 350 americans?
moron
Over 50% of all new car sales in the US are comprised of the big 3 fullsize pickups. More F150s are sold every year than any other individual model of car IN THE WORLD.
>More F150s are sold every year than any other individual model of car IN THE WORLD.
A quick google search would tell you that Toyota Corolla and Rav4 is selling way better among several other models that sell better than the F150
based and subhumanpilled
white men made a median of 62k before 2020
idk what the recent stats are prob higher
>white men made a median of 62k before 2020
No they didn't. Theres no way just the White Male population offset the median to almost twice the overal Median of 35k
women and subhumans get paid under the table a lot depressing the official numbers
We don't need to.
North America isn’t yurop. Our roads are wider than the average American. And we can afford cars larger than a shoebox clown car. Hope I explained it. Look up burger trucks in Germany, Poland or Norway and prepare to seethe.
t. Canadian who’s blessed to not be a cucked yuropoor
Canadian tax structure and government is based off the UK model so you might as well be a European country homosexual.
Canada is the worst of both worlds honestly
Ironically rural leaves own more guns than the Americans.
>Where do you even want to tow a boat? you can just rent a truck for a day
Do you not understand what a lake is? You're going to rent a truck every weekend in the summer? That seems real economical.
I thought your boat was at sea. So you have 1 actual application for a boat which costs as much as your pickup, unless it's a small one and you can tow that with an SUV? Do all americans have big boats that they move around the country every week?
>Do all americans have big boats that they move around the country every week?
There are a lot of lakes in America. Also, many of the rivers like the Potomic are large enough for a bass boat to traverse. I don't have a boat but I've been thinking of buying one. A cheap 16' bass boat for my lake that is a 10 minute drive away would be great. I normally haul thinks with my outback and a small 4'x8' trailer but If I want to haul a boat I would have to upgrade to a much more expensive trainer with brakes to haul my boat and even then my transmission isn't designed for that kind of abuse as I would be fishing every weekend. It also doesn't help that I live in a mountainous region and my Outback would struggle hauling a boat. Until I get a truck I'm probably going to stick to fishing from my Kayak.
>Do all americans have big boats that they move around the country every week?
Not all of them but there's over 10 on my street alone. The storage lots here are packed with them. Keep in mind a lake boat can weigh anywhere from 3000lbs to 7000+lbs which most SUV's can't comfortably tow.
A modern fridge won't last. t. appliance repair technician.
Yeah that is great and all but our pozzed government is in the process of giving us worse than Australia tier gun laws
>Ironically rural leaves own more guns than the Americans.
no they don't. america has the most guns in the world. both in shear numbers and per capita. we have 4x as many guns as canadians going by per capita.
>no they don't. america has the most guns in the world. both in shear numbers and per capita. we have 4x as many guns as canadians going by per capita.
Canadian cities are almost completely nogunz since there's no concealed carry and handguns can only be used at shooting ranges. The only province with meaningful numbers of urban gun owners is Alberta, and otherwise the 6.6mil rural Canadians probably own 75% of all the guns in the country.
Rural Canada isn't better armed than the average red state, but I think it's probably true that they're better armed than the statistically average American that owns 1.2 guns.
Obviously the US has more guns in general and per capita. That's not what the anon you greentexted said though. Try again.
wtf is wrong with you euro's? Why would you build roads this small?
because a lot of euro roads date back hundreds of years while NA's were designed much later.
I don't think they're about to bulldoze a bunch of buildings to build wider roads.
Why are you watching trash like that?
If big euro vans can navigate those roads just fine so can burger pickup.
That truck is over a foot wider than your biggest vans there and it's not even a big truck. I don't think you realize how massive American trucks are compared to european vehicles.
We have public transport that can use that space
Grim
because Europe has had civilization built upon it for thousands of years and old roads and institutions have been built in places we can't just bulldoze through to make roads.
The USA is a very young nation
>we can't just bulldoze through to make roads.
Not with that attitude
Man even the ford transit van drivers in the video thinks he's moronic.
>when your fetish is size difference
>when Stacey’s luxury school bus could flatten you like a pancake if she rams you from behind
Hot
I see Jimnys with Mexican plates periodically here in Los Angeles and I get butthurt that we don't get them in the US. Also have been seeing a lot of Hiluxes lately. Also a Peugeot pickup truck.
tags: size_difference
>interracial, military, big_top_small_bottom
we dont have to frick off
>just put it on a roof rack
>just rent a truck
Anti-truck gays are basement dwelling losers that don't experience life.
Look how fricking fat the 911 has gotten.
DAMN BOI HE THICC
because we can. seethe and cope, commie. now get outta the way before i crush your smartcar
We have this magical thing called property. You use truck to maintain your land and make money.
Europoors will never understand.
Doesn't matter how many times you try to drive it into the skull.
This is a people that are content with taking a train to the ski slopes and renting gear when they get there because they don't have enough storage room in their 300 square foot shithole apartment to store a fricking snowboard.
“I want it” is enough justification
>Europoo promoting useless cars that dont have proper size trunk space.
Yeah I take the pickup in this case.
Americans justify what? Not driving a circus side show micro car? I get it’s funny once or twice but the joke really doesn’t age well repeatedly after a week.
>seething impoverished yuro demands his betters justify their higher standard of living
I don't vote for people who want to make my life worse?
american ignorance never fails to amuse me
this board doesn't even need flags because you can always tell which posters are american kek
americans be like
>b-but how am i supposed to haul stuff without a 3 ton truck???
this is illegal
americans be like
>b-but how am i supposed to transport stuff without a 3 ton truck???
fricking gypsies i swear
He weep
mogged
Seething Europoors ITT
Are you going to drive that 200 miles to Glamis, with enough gear and food to camp for 4 days in the desert?
Europoors have no clue what Americans have available to them.
You're peons.
Serfs.
Peasants that aren't even allowed to use your governments land.
>Has to go into debt every time something slightly goes wrong with his car
>Too moronic to understand that a decent hatchback/sedan with a cheap ass trailer can do the same
>You're peons.
They stopped making those almost 30 years ago
Who tf is they?
Manufacturers producing real cars not this cheapo cucked stuff for midgets like in your picture. B-body was canceled to literally give way to more trucks and truck-based SUVs.
I've driven several thousands kilometers through Yurop in a Golf like the one pictured. Never again. The older BMW 1 Series was way better, but both are too underpowered in most trims even without the trailer, and probably shit out their trannies and overheat with one, especially in the hills/mountains.
What vehicle those clown mirrors did belong to, by the way? A 1950s tractor?
I am taller than 89.3% of your population moron. I get that you're morbidly obese and can't fit in anything smaller than a ulitity vehicle. Honestly the fact that you could drive a golf and not pop it's tires from the sheer weight your lard ass ads on it is a show of how much a regular hatchback and toll/carry.
>being this mad
I'm not even *merican lol
Cope
Yeah, that's the usual reason for so many ad hominems. Add *mericans living rent free in one's head and we'll get something very close to that post.
Ironic picture, anyone stuck in a rabbit can’t afford a camper.
Why do you think a starter for an F150 costs more than a starter for a Peugeot?
Oh ya, because you're a fricking idiot.
>just get a trailer.
Ah yes, the ever moving goalpost..
You are only allowed one parking spot in your government controlled apartment complex. Where are you going to store your trailer?
Oh that's right, you don't have a trailer.
Meanwhile the average American family has 3 cars.
I have a classic truck, a 4x4, a muscle car and a shitbox DD commuter.
Wife has her own car.
Kids each have their own car.
And yes, you're a peon.
>YOU VILL DRIVE ZE SMALL KUKBOX AS ZE EU HAS MANDATED UND YOU VILL SEETHE AT AMERICANS WHO DONT
I’m glad yurocels are going extinct tbqhwy
Because they were underappreciated they all got beaten and totaled until they became rare-ish. Also Democrat government devaluing our money didn't help.
Yea, my car is completely dwarfed by some of the shit on the road
I own an F250 and want a kei truck. When I was in Japan they were literally everywhere. It can't tow 10k, but would be useful as hell around my property. Still, my F250 serves a purpose.
A UTV like a Gator is still much more useful for doing shit around your property. You can also get parts for it in town.
hey where are you towing that crown vic?
Families in the suburbs want a big ass SUV so that if they're in an accident the other family dies.
I'm 6'4, I really don't fit in some smaller cars. Fortunately I'm not pigfat so I can tolerate short rides in a pinch. But I do want a big tall vehicle next, back is starting to go out a bit, can feel it just getting in an out of my car now.
It's called owning a business, you fricking dipshit.
>Americans justify this
I don't want to drive a FWD shitbox.
I drive a Higlander for a living. Theyre surprisingly luxurious but they feel underpowered. Going up a hill is a challenge. Good fuel economy if it's a hybrid
americans get to experience V8s and 4x4 pickup trucks at the expense of
>every non-V8 engine is terrible
>almost every non-pickup truck vehicle is shit
>some of the best exotics are unavailable at release (959, XJ220, koenigseggs, etc)
>dogshit roads and infrastructure
>even more dogshit drivers
it's a tradeoff, pick your poison
>americans get to experience V8s and 4x4 pickup trucks at the expense of
non-V8 engine is terrible
every non-pickup truck vehicle is shit
This trade off is very easy to make, only poors in America have to deal with the 4/6 cylinder shitbox engines.
As for every non-BOF vehicle being shit - you can thank the government for reducing our offerings over this moronic pursuit of bettering fleet fuel economy.
It takes a certain kind of indoctrination to believe that any "justification" is needed.
Bitches don't know 'bout my tailgating
If they made one of these with a fold down midgate I'd buy one immediately
I like the idea of a separate cargo area but I don't like the idea of being unable to reach it somehow from the interior.
Reaching stuff from the interior is not very convenient in these. The idea was that you can transport stuff significantly longer than your bed from time to time (it's a bit noisy thing to do), and if it's less than 50-something cm high, you can even protect it from the weather to some degree while doing that (the bed cover and the midgate are weather-sealed, but not watertight, there are rubber seals and multiple drain channels around them). As a bonus you can use your rear window as a vent and sleep in the truck with comfort. But you can't carry too much weight in the bed compared to trucks with separate beds because it puts too much stress on the body the frame can't relieve. You can't use camper modules either, but some people still try.
t.owner
Most american soccermoms would be just fine with a subcompact hatchback.
Why americans don't make cool vans anymore?
They were much cooler than oversized pickup trucks.
america f yeah
americans are big and very easy to make money out of
Many Americans have crippling insecurities which car manufacturers prey on. Soccer moms need huge suvs to feel safe and boomer men need oversized pickups to feel masculine.
The car people choose vs the car people are taxed into
Why do europeans think being poor and taxed to death = logic and efficiency
Coping mechanism.
I like my comfy couch
i love being american and not having to justify my posessions to anyone or the government
This. Imagine living in a country wide HOA.
Absolute hell
This, thought I wish they calm down on the safety regulations that ironically make cars more unsafe by bloating them, and emissions stuff that just serve to Gump cars in general
Why does it upset you so much? Does it keep you up at night at night that we can have trucks like that and you can't?
It's the worst. Cars all have been getting bigger over the past few decades, but pickups are by far the worst offenders. And ironically the bigger they've gotten the less they are actually used for their intended purpose. 80% of truck owners these days use it to commute to their office job and to run errands, that's it. Almost all off all of them have those large ass cabins, so they can fit their family in their trucks, instead of you know, getting a van or something, nope it has to be a truck. They buy it out of pure vanity. Nobody who actually uses their truck for work needs all that fancy electronic stuff, only people who buy it to show off do. Because of their huge size and increased height they also have way more blind spots than other cars or older trucks. If your own child was standing in front of your bumper you simply wouldn't see them, there's been an increase in pedestrian fatalities largely because of that.
The cargo part looks pretty small for a truck of that size. About the size of the boot of a Skoda Octavia with the seats folded down, except exposed to the elements.
This is the thing I really don't understand about trucks, the open boot.
Stuff you want to carry is exposed to rain and snow, it ruins your aerodynamics and isn't even that big.
Of course you can do with your money what you want and frick everyone who disagrees, but I don't buy it when truckdrivers say that a truck is a practical dd or a family car.
It’s a farm vehicle. You’re throw muddy tools and livestock in the back and it’s isolated away from the cabin unlike in a van or some hatchback with the seats folded down. It’s not meant to be a white collar urban runabout.
>then why can urban people buy them
Because America isn’t a communist shithole where certain people are banned from owning property because of where they live/what job they have. If someone wants to buy something they have no use for, it’s their money to spend.
Fair enough, in Europe too everyone is free to drive a tractor or an RV or a large commercial van or an American pickup. However, you can't expect the state to pay for free ample parking in every urban area for your oversized vehicle. That actually would be communism. I'm not paying with my taxes so some moron can go grocery shopping in his RV because he's too cheap to get another, appropriately-sized vehicle.
In the US every parking spot in every Walmart, in every White Castle and every Taco Bell needs to be able to fit a large truck and so do the roads leading to them. So you've got this sea of concrete and asphalt that costs a ton to maintain, money that isn't there. That's why American infrastructure is crumbling so hard. I've been to Greece and Eastern Europe and nowhere was there a "pothole situation" as bad as in your average American city.
Hint: You only use the trailer when you need it.
The state doesn’t create parking, the property owner does. The state DOES tell property owners what kind of parking to make, though. And in the US, they mandate a certain percentage of spots must be for ‘compact’ cars.
>american roads are wide
To fit a four-horse stagecoach, not cars. American cars were designed to fit the roads that already existed.
>american infrastructure
Is only bad in left wing-ran urban areas, because they take all the money that’s supposed to be set aside for infrastructure and instead put it into welfare systems to feed and house Black folk and illegals who refuse to work. Then they b***h about how bad the roads are, raise taxes to fund infrastructure, and then put all THAT money into welfare as well.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/g42487365/most-popular-used-cars-and-trucks-of-2022/
You didn’t look hard.
>that’s just used
Read past the first sentence.
>Is only bad in left wing-ran urban areas
its pretty bad across the country. There are so few freight and passenger rail lines in the country its pretty easy to see why the logistics are so bad all the time. The fact that your effective choices are to either fly or drive to maine from california or wherever is pretty fricking stupid seeing as Europe has multiple fast routes that can be taken cheaply and effortlessly.
>muh rail
The US transports a greater percentage of its GDP cargo via rail than any other country on the planet.
>confirmed to not read past the first sentence
>t-that’s false
moron
Oh I read it. You're just using it as a crutch because you now feel like a moron (as you should).
Now, explain to me how the Ford F150 is the best selling car IN THE WORLD and not just in the domestic American market.
Oh yeah, the domestic American USED market that is. I just had to put the cherry on top.
>Used cars
>Not worldwide
What happened to "More F150s are sold every year than any other individual model of car IN THE WORLD." ?
Please stop embarassing yourself
>To fit a four-horse stagecoach, not cars. American cars were designed to fit the roads that already existed.
Blatantly false. Do you think this type of a road, as you can find it in almost any American town, was already like this in 1900?
And before you say “that’s an urban street”, here’s a typical old west town’s main street
>Ford-150 is the best selling car in the world, here's my source an article exclusively about used car sales in the US
Embarrassing
>third sentence includes a link to how the F150 is the best selling new vehicle as well
100% confirmed illiterate, GG no re
>US is the single largest market for new cars
>best selling model is F150
>can’t put it together
I have a hunch that you might not know that the best selling USED car on your domestic market does not translate to being the best sold car IN THE WORLD. Also you're saying that the US is the largest market for new cars and yet you refer to used cars statistics. There are 195 countries on earth. Hopefully you are not this stupid.
>continues to aggressively confirm his illiteracy
Lol
At this point I truly only feel bad for you
Dunning kruger on display.
Not that anon but all you have is evidence is the best selling vehicle in the US, your premise that it then must be the best selling vehicle in the world just because the US is the biggest vehicle market amongst individual nations is where your argument completely falls apart.
You might be correct that it's the best selling vehicle global but you have no evidence for it seemingly, and the fact that F-150 is sold almost exclusively in North America and other models are sold across regions which accumulate to keep markets makes this doubtful.
The actual reality is I was mixing the sales statistics of full-sized pickups in general with that of the F150 exclusively. The fact they’re only sold in America is irrelevant when you remember more new cars are sold in the US alone than in the entirety of the EU. It’s the same reason why GM and Toyota constantly trade places for the biggest car companies in the world, even though GM’s sales outside of north america are practically non-existent.
Something like 2.4 million new full-size pickups were sold in the US last year, excluding the Titan and Tundra. According to Toyota’s own website, they only sold 1.5 million Corollas globally in 2015 (most recent statistic I could find). Remember though, the new car market was booming in 2015 but has retracted hard in 2020-2022.
The real crux of the argument is this entire argument is one giant deflection from the main point I was originally makinng; that is, that in America, V8s are considered ‘basic equipment’. The other guy hyperfocused on my claim about F150 global sales because he had no counterargument to the main point of my original post. He hopes that if he pushes that argument long enough, I will forget what we were originally talking about and he can take the W.
>rain and snow
San Diego averages 7" of annual rainfall.
Las Vegas averages 4".
And here's an idea- don't go shopping during a blizzard.
ITT:
Americans buying large vehicles to justify themselves being vevvy insecuve >:(
Ahh yes. After you Jeff Bezos.
My bank statement is my rancher house, my V8 pickup, and my fishing boat. Your bank statement is your apartment, 1.3L diesel hatchback, and your bus pass.
That sounds like property.
How will we know how much your wife's boyfriend have gifted you?
Imagine buying all that just to try to impress anonymous strangers on the internet
Imagine thinking I bought it to impress strangers on the internet