Anyone who wants to job (any kind of) job can easily do so, we have record unemployment levels.
We also have record non-participation rates but we don't talk about that.
Demoralization poster? Idk.
Just saying that being employed right now is perhaps the least worth it that it has ever been post-WW2. If you get NEETbucks you're better off preserving that and keep your 40 hours a week.
because they're miserable and want others to make the same mistakes as them. you're perfectly employable at 22, even with no experience you'll be completely fine all the way up to 25. applying for jobs at 25 with no experience is when things get tough.
also, his post about "walmart only hiring 2.6% of applicants" is fucking stupid.
they probably get a ton of applicants, have limited shifts, and your application expires after a certain period. some people will apply each time a job is posted, and will apply for each posting.
so, let's say there are 10 openings. person A applies on all 10 links. they don't get hired. a month later there are 8 openings. that same person applies to all 8 postings and gets hired. that's 1 hire for 18 submitted applications.
this is an anecdote, but it happens a lot. i'm a hiring manager at a restaurant. not fast food like mcdonalds, or chain like tgi fridays, just a regular local restaurant. anyway, it's not uncommon for me to see the same names over and over when going through applications.
>applying for jobs at 25 with no experience is when things get tough.
Age is completely arbitrary though. Why is 25 the magic unemployable number? What makes me less capable at 25 than at 20? Why can't I just lie about my experience? This is such a needlessly overcomplicated process. We're immigrating 30 year old mexicans who have no experience do jobs.
that's just when people start asking "wtf are you doing with your life?" so if you're 25 with no previous experience, then it's like, what's the point of hiring you? do you have ambitions? anything that you want to work towards?
you're not less capable, at least not necessarily...but, for a lot of places, a 20 year old is more appealing cus they can get more years out of that person. training is tough and expensive, and the older you are, the more likely you are to have specific work methods or habits. with a 25 year old who has no experience, they're more likely to have bad habits. also, every 24+ year old with no previous experience that i've interviewed gave me incredibly bad vibes, smelled terrible, and seemed like they'd be trouble (showing up late for the interview, asking how long it would take, scoffing that i only offered them a free appetizer rather than entree...even though i told them they get a free entree with every shift, our cheapest entree is $20 so it's not like other restaurants where you get some shitty ass dollar burger or a soft drink each shift) so i toss those applications in the trash as a rule.
you can lie about experience, but depending on the job it becomes very obvious that you lied. if it's for basic retail or a mcjob, then go ahead and lie if you think it'll help. just don't lie if you're applying to a real job.
the illegal alien argument is something else entirely and i 100% agree that it's stupid to hire them over hiring a citizen, especially when the job market is so fucked beyond belief. legal immigrants almost always have careers.
>you can lie about experience, but depending on the job it becomes very obvious that you lied. if it's for basic retail or a mcjob, then go ahead and lie if you think it'll help. just don't lie if you're applying to a real job.
l-o-l. i work as a financial analyst for a relatively well-known company. i used to work as a literal investmant banker in chicago. i have lied, openly and blatantly, in every single job ive applied to. i jump around every 2-3 years too, since theres always someone willing to pay you 40 grand more than the last guy.
if you're stupid and incompetent, then yeah, maybe you shouldn't lie. but you're delusional if you think deceit isnt commonplace in real careers.
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Spot on.
Most jobs can be done by most people, and incompetence exists independent of experience. There would be absolutely nothing of value a fresh graduate could do if experience actually translates into meaningful ability. All the experience shows is that someone else trusted you with a level of responsibility. It doesn't even confirm that you didn't totally ruin everything the moment you got that responsibility.
I was a multi year neet like some people here and the only reason I got a job was because of covid. I still work and they think my work is great but it was all dumb luck really. Before this I was rejected from walmart like jobs as if I was wasting their time.
You want to get on that, before you know it you will be 28 with no experience. Really employers don't expect a 22 year old to have experience, just bullshit that you volunteered or worked at target or something, they probably won't check. Or maybe move, sometimes it really is the shitty place you live in.
this. i recently watched the news and they told me that the economy is the greatest its ever been and we have so many jobs available that not even the economic migrants coming in from mexico can fill all of the open positions.
so, yeah, we're literally the most employed we've ever been. the only way to make employment rates better is to start hiring babies, because 100% of babies are unemployed and that needs to change.
Yeah, it's hard for a 22 year old NEET, unless you just got out of college recently or something.
If you've never had a job and never went to college, an employer looks at that and wants no part of it. All the people you actually WANT to employ started working at least part-time when they were 16 or even younger, and/or went to college.
If you've literally dicked around for years and now are 22, the odds are that you will ALWAYS dick around.
>25 years old and never had a job
How over is it for me? I did some voluntary work at a charity store for a year, but I didn't ask for any reference or anything.
>trades are always hiring
Good advice. I had an uber driver just the other day who's finishing up with HVAC school / certification and he's 41. He'll definitely be working and making decent money because there's no shortage of people needing their A/C of heaters fixed.
It's definitely far from over in your early 20s. You have the maximum amount of opportunity at that point. You can do anything you want.
There are so many retarded useless wagies out there
It is impossible to be too incompetent to work
You'd have to be no thoughts tons of chromosomes retarded to be worse than your average wagie
You should be fine, 22 is quite young. There are a shitload of jobs out there. If you're in the US, keep an eye on job listings on the USPS website. It kinda sucks but a lot of places are so hard up they'll hire anyone and at least the carrier positions start out at 20 an hour. Also once you finish your probation it's real fucking hard to get fired thanks to the unions lol.
The job market is so fucked right now that it has never been easier to get a job as a never before employed 25 year old. most robots are depressed and self-defeating, though. It would be a low level wagie job, but you can get them. You need to work your way up from there.
Literally just lie and fill your resume with gigger work. "I've been driving ubereats/lyft/charging lime scooters for the last 5 years, decided i needed something more stable."
apply. that's it. apply and call them a few days later and say you submitted an application and are wondering if the position is still available, they'll ask for your name and either set up an interview or say they filled the position.
calling just to check looks good.
>Am I permanently unemployable
yes
t. 32 year old NEET
Okay but why did anon make it seem my life's over as a 22 NEET?
https://i.imgur.com/ZA6phIe.png
Am I permanently unemployable as a 22 year old NEET? Because this anon said so
Ill tell youns what I said a few nights ago, apply to a steel mill. Im making $28.66 an hr and it aint a hard job. Great benefits + bonus at the end of the year. Youre mileage may vary but its by far the best job ive ever had.
That's either a weekly or monthly rate of pay. The autistic typing indicates that he's some kind of Eastern Bloc.
And yes, I do mean monthly. The shitty eastern bloc countries are that poor. Being an MMORPG gold farmer pays like being a brick mason, a diamond rank LoL booster earns more than a doctor or lawyer.
This is brutal, can anyone verify if this is true and I should give up. I'm in the UK btw, there's an Amazon center near me and I assumed you were practically guaranteed a job there if you applied.
its really not hard, i think people are just afraid of success in a way, or dont want to take the steps necessary to get money despite how easy those steps might be. i became an apprentance welder at 25 and started from day one making $26 an hour and 3 years later I make $42 an hour.
I was neet until I turned 29, then I got a trade job in construction and earn 6 figures plus benefits and healthcare. 5 years later, still khhv. Maybe one day.
Anyone who wants to job (any kind of) job can easily do so, we have record unemployment levels.
We also have record non-participation rates but we don't talk about that.
Okay but why did anon make it seem my life's over as a 22 NEET?
Demoralization poster? Idk.
Just saying that being employed right now is perhaps the least worth it that it has ever been post-WW2. If you get NEETbucks you're better off preserving that and keep your 40 hours a week.
sometimes people on LULZ are retarded
you should know this by now
stay strong anon senpai
because they're miserable and want others to make the same mistakes as them. you're perfectly employable at 22, even with no experience you'll be completely fine all the way up to 25. applying for jobs at 25 with no experience is when things get tough.
also, his post about "walmart only hiring 2.6% of applicants" is fucking stupid.
they probably get a ton of applicants, have limited shifts, and your application expires after a certain period. some people will apply each time a job is posted, and will apply for each posting.
so, let's say there are 10 openings. person A applies on all 10 links. they don't get hired. a month later there are 8 openings. that same person applies to all 8 postings and gets hired. that's 1 hire for 18 submitted applications.
this is an anecdote, but it happens a lot. i'm a hiring manager at a restaurant. not fast food like mcdonalds, or chain like tgi fridays, just a regular local restaurant. anyway, it's not uncommon for me to see the same names over and over when going through applications.
>applying for jobs at 25 with no experience is when things get tough.
Age is completely arbitrary though. Why is 25 the magic unemployable number? What makes me less capable at 25 than at 20? Why can't I just lie about my experience? This is such a needlessly overcomplicated process. We're immigrating 30 year old mexicans who have no experience do jobs.
that's just when people start asking "wtf are you doing with your life?" so if you're 25 with no previous experience, then it's like, what's the point of hiring you? do you have ambitions? anything that you want to work towards?
you're not less capable, at least not necessarily...but, for a lot of places, a 20 year old is more appealing cus they can get more years out of that person. training is tough and expensive, and the older you are, the more likely you are to have specific work methods or habits. with a 25 year old who has no experience, they're more likely to have bad habits. also, every 24+ year old with no previous experience that i've interviewed gave me incredibly bad vibes, smelled terrible, and seemed like they'd be trouble (showing up late for the interview, asking how long it would take, scoffing that i only offered them a free appetizer rather than entree...even though i told them they get a free entree with every shift, our cheapest entree is $20 so it's not like other restaurants where you get some shitty ass dollar burger or a soft drink each shift) so i toss those applications in the trash as a rule.
you can lie about experience, but depending on the job it becomes very obvious that you lied. if it's for basic retail or a mcjob, then go ahead and lie if you think it'll help. just don't lie if you're applying to a real job.
the illegal alien argument is something else entirely and i 100% agree that it's stupid to hire them over hiring a citizen, especially when the job market is so fucked beyond belief. legal immigrants almost always have careers.
where do you live? i have never had an employer ask me my age
>you can lie about experience, but depending on the job it becomes very obvious that you lied. if it's for basic retail or a mcjob, then go ahead and lie if you think it'll help. just don't lie if you're applying to a real job.
l-o-l. i work as a financial analyst for a relatively well-known company. i used to work as a literal investmant banker in chicago. i have lied, openly and blatantly, in every single job ive applied to. i jump around every 2-3 years too, since theres always someone willing to pay you 40 grand more than the last guy.
if you're stupid and incompetent, then yeah, maybe you shouldn't lie. but you're delusional if you think deceit isnt commonplace in real careers.
Spot on.
Most jobs can be done by most people, and incompetence exists independent of experience. There would be absolutely nothing of value a fresh graduate could do if experience actually translates into meaningful ability. All the experience shows is that someone else trusted you with a level of responsibility. It doesn't even confirm that you didn't totally ruin everything the moment you got that responsibility.
I was a multi year neet like some people here and the only reason I got a job was because of covid. I still work and they think my work is great but it was all dumb luck really. Before this I was rejected from walmart like jobs as if I was wasting their time.
You want to get on that, before you know it you will be 28 with no experience. Really employers don't expect a 22 year old to have experience, just bullshit that you volunteered or worked at target or something, they probably won't check. Or maybe move, sometimes it really is the shitty place you live in.
>record unemployment levels
that number is fake
this. i recently watched the news and they told me that the economy is the greatest its ever been and we have so many jobs available that not even the economic migrants coming in from mexico can fill all of the open positions.
so, yeah, we're literally the most employed we've ever been. the only way to make employment rates better is to start hiring babies, because 100% of babies are unemployed and that needs to change.
no it's not, if you want a job its piss easy to get one
problem is that jobs don't pay you anything. so labor participation rates are at record lows.
nah there are places that will hire anyone, if ur willing to work at a shit wage that is
Yeah, it's hard for a 22 year old NEET, unless you just got out of college recently or something.
If you've never had a job and never went to college, an employer looks at that and wants no part of it. All the people you actually WANT to employ started working at least part-time when they were 16 or even younger, and/or went to college.
If you've literally dicked around for years and now are 22, the odds are that you will ALWAYS dick around.
>If you've literally dicked around for years and now are 22, the odds are that you will ALWAYS dick around.
I mean I can just lie on my resume
>25 years old and never had a job
How over is it for me? I did some voluntary work at a charity store for a year, but I didn't ask for any reference or anything.
27 and in the same boat. If I don't have my shit together by 30 I will probably kill myself.
I'm 31. You won't kill yourself. I used to say the same thing about 25 and then 30
>If you've literally dicked around for years and now are 22, the odds are that you will ALWAYS dick around.
Exactly. Even if you aren't that person, they have no way of knowing for sure. They will always take the person who doesn't have that added risk.
It's not about being able to do the job, it's about being the best available candidate.
Can confirm. I got into Berkeley but cannot find employment even at Arby's.
>Am I permanently unemployable
yes
t. 32 year old NEET
Nah, you might have a harder time than someone with connections but the trades are always hiring if you are looking for a job.
>trades are always hiring
Good advice. I had an uber driver just the other day who's finishing up with HVAC school / certification and he's 41. He'll definitely be working and making decent money because there's no shortage of people needing their A/C of heaters fixed.
It's definitely far from over in your early 20s. You have the maximum amount of opportunity at that point. You can do anything you want.
Or you can just fucking lie and say you worked at others factories etc, if it's a wagie job they won't even bother to check
There are so many retarded useless wagies out there
It is impossible to be too incompetent to work
You'd have to be no thoughts tons of chromosomes retarded to be worse than your average wagie
I am thinking of sending application to Lidl.
how difficult is it?
You should be fine, 22 is quite young. There are a shitload of jobs out there. If you're in the US, keep an eye on job listings on the USPS website. It kinda sucks but a lot of places are so hard up they'll hire anyone and at least the carrier positions start out at 20 an hour. Also once you finish your probation it's real fucking hard to get fired thanks to the unions lol.
The job market is so fucked right now that it has never been easier to get a job as a never before employed 25 year old. most robots are depressed and self-defeating, though. It would be a low level wagie job, but you can get them. You need to work your way up from there.
Literally just lie and fill your resume with gigger work. "I've been driving ubereats/lyft/charging lime scooters for the last 5 years, decided i needed something more stable."
EZ
There are a ton of jobs. It's just they're all horrible, low pay, low hours, and you will be miserable the whole time.
Good luck!
So is full-time work hard to find? I want to work at a warehouse
Should be easy. Burnout is high because they will slave the fuck out of you.
apply. that's it. apply and call them a few days later and say you submitted an application and are wondering if the position is still available, they'll ask for your name and either set up an interview or say they filled the position.
calling just to check looks good.
Ill tell youns what I said a few nights ago, apply to a steel mill. Im making $28.66 an hr and it aint a hard job. Great benefits + bonus at the end of the year. Youre mileage may vary but its by far the best job ive ever had.
Not an option in my cuntry, friend.
Dude in my country for the same job we get paid around 503 euro. For reference a 2l bottle of cola is almost 2 euro
I have no idea what youre trying to say. 503 euros an hr? Same job? You have no idea what I do you autistic retard.
Well sorry to hear that.
That's either a weekly or monthly rate of pay. The autistic typing indicates that he's some kind of Eastern Bloc.
And yes, I do mean monthly. The shitty eastern bloc countries are that poor. Being an MMORPG gold farmer pays like being a brick mason, a diamond rank LoL booster earns more than a doctor or lawyer.
This is brutal, can anyone verify if this is true and I should give up. I'm in the UK btw, there's an Amazon center near me and I assumed you were practically guaranteed a job there if you applied.
>Walmart has a lower acceptance rate than Harvard
The anon that said this is a bigger loser than you. He most likely wants to bring you down so he feels better about his shitty life.
its really not hard, i think people are just afraid of success in a way, or dont want to take the steps necessary to get money despite how easy those steps might be. i became an apprentance welder at 25 and started from day one making $26 an hour and 3 years later I make $42 an hour.
I was neet until I turned 29, then I got a trade job in construction and earn 6 figures plus benefits and healthcare. 5 years later, still khhv. Maybe one day.