This. A perfect storm is needed for a thread to thrive. There are definitely anons very knowledgeable about Ulysses here, or at least there used to be. They seem to come out of the woodwork when they know putting in effort will be appreciated. It’s like that for most books, little incentive if there isn’t much of a chance of a response
I’ve contributed to a couple e-boita threads here and there that have cropped up. One of these days I’m going to sit down and type up a thread on To the Lighthouse or Heart of Darkness or some other book that isn’t discussed here.
We have multiple threads a week where it is clear at least a few people in them have actually read the book. That's better than I can say for most threads on LULZ "discussing" great books.
As someone who is one of those people, let's try to have some talking. What is your favorite chapter? Do you like Bloom best, or do you prefer Stephen? How badly do you want to fuck Molly, or would you rather fuck Gerty's crippled little snatch?
>favorite chapter
ithaca. it comes off as barren in intention, a mathematical description (or whatever joyce said about it), but it comes off as beautiful in its direct description/explanation of the world and its inhabitants. something like that >bloom vs stephen
gotta be bloom for me, although i feel that this is mostly because i have very little idea of what stephen is talking about. nonetheless, bloom is fleshy and human compared to the cerebral stephen, talking living and thinking in a way that is undoubtedly human, doubting himself, entertaining fantasies, being wrong: the things that make up the majority of the lived experience, as opposed to the neurotic and learned stephen. i like them both, really >sex
i don't have an answer for this
>chapter
Circe is so goddamned funny, first time a book had me in legitimate tears from laughing >bloom/stephen
Stephen is the more interesting character study to me, but Bloom is actually likeable as a person. Actually, he is seriously admirable. Stephen is a great character study of a sophmore painfully on the verge of self-awareness, though. >Horn
Could care less
OP three years ago we had a complete read of all of Joyce's works from Dubliners to Ulysses and there was plenty of discussion, although it did die out as we moved through Ulysses. Most anon's fell at the library. was probably there.
Yep, three years ago and weren't we all just loving neetdom? Feel sick thinking about it to be honest everything has been shit since lel. I still think some anons should come together and do our own annotated version of Dubliners or something
>talking. What is your favorite chapter?
Controversial choice, but I actually liked the early Stephen chapters/the Telemachia (or three chapters in general corresponding to that section of the Odyssey), where the writing is extremely dense, fractured, poetic and mystical, like the famously hated Proteus chapter. The Nestor chapter also has some of the most beautiful writing in it. Besides that I suppose it would be the Ithaca and Circe chapters, more popular choices. As you can see, I find it hard to choose just one. >Do you like Bloom best, or do you prefer Stephen?
Again, I have to give an equivocating answer. Bloom is far more likable as a character, warm, human, wry, funny and sympathetic. Stephen is often cold, an alien-like figure, estranged from those around him, overly bookish and arrogant in the way of some young men, and has a big ego. Bloom succeeds as the human character you love more. BUT, again, I oddly enough almost love the parts from Stephen’s P.O.V. more just because they have some of Joyce’s densest, most poetic stream-of-consciousness or polished rhetoric (lines like “God is a shout in the street”), especially when veering into Stephen’s theological and literary speculations. >How badly do you want to fuck Molly, or would you rather fuck Gerty's crippled little snatch?
Depends on how horny I am at the moment, something in Gerty and the descriptions of her turns me on more, but I don’t quite have the teenage libido of yore that would make this a seriously provocative question for me. I suppose I’d be glad to take what I could get if I had the chance to fuck some embodiment of either of them, or even have a threesome with them.
It's a ghost story about how Stephen and Bloom see apparitions of their relatives, and a lot of fucking around in between. I'm surprised nobody ever mentions how they both constantly reconnect themselves to their own psychological underworlds. There's a start.
I agree to a slight degree that in a way the book takes on the persona of the average modern day normie afraid to be serious and care about something truly without irony, BUT i believe its magnificence and overall mastery of the English language and prose outshines this whether you can handle the crassness, the humor, the what have you of it. Joyce forced this to be a literary masterpiece, he knew it wouldn't be readily accepted but its greatness renders it as art that cannot be denied
Joyce to me represents the most insufferable, horrible, and borderline bad writing that's ever come from the anglophone world and for the life of me I cannot grasp what makes people enjoy his work, nor why he would be considered one of the greats
You really have to be a pretentious fuck to force yourself into liking the kind of progressive prose this nagger has come up with, labelling it as masterpiece, and exactly why? Who wants to read the incoherence of a toddler, or random ramblings of a dimwit teen? I'm glad it's never discussed, and it doesn't deserve to be
My book had >The 1934 Text, as corrected and reset in 1961
On the cover, so I was curious as to the context. I learned that this novel has double digit editions with varying degrees of errors and corrections, including those that Joyce added on purpose. It sounds frustrating and interesting at the same time.
way to reveal yourself as a newfag.
you even 18 little bud?
>way to reveal yourself as a newfag.
>you even 18 little bud?
(You) #
>kek
transvestite or israelite?
what's your favourite episode anon?
I think Ithaca is really good
not OP but for me it's episode 3 with stephen
Ithaca. Most of it is autistic, but the end where Bloom is getting ready for bed and fantasizing about that house in the countryside is comfy
Any answers other than the one of the masturbation at the beach are wrong
Telemachus, Lestroygonisns, Scylla and Charibdis, Wandering Rocks, Nausicaa,
ulysses was pretty good in terms of being experimental, but i have to say i prefer portrait in general
I have noticed this with many books on the top.
I feel that only Blood Meridian and Stoner are discussed often here.
for the last year or two it's become nearly unusable
This. A perfect storm is needed for a thread to thrive. There are definitely anons very knowledgeable about Ulysses here, or at least there used to be. They seem to come out of the woodwork when they know putting in effort will be appreciated. It’s like that for most books, little incentive if there isn’t much of a chance of a response
I’ve contributed to a couple e-boita threads here and there that have cropped up. One of these days I’m going to sit down and type up a thread on To the Lighthouse or Heart of Darkness or some other book that isn’t discussed here.
We have multiple threads a week where it is clear at least a few people in them have actually read the book. That's better than I can say for most threads on LULZ "discussing" great books.
As someone who is one of those people, let's try to have some talking. What is your favorite chapter? Do you like Bloom best, or do you prefer Stephen? How badly do you want to fuck Molly, or would you rather fuck Gerty's crippled little snatch?
>favorite chapter
ithaca. it comes off as barren in intention, a mathematical description (or whatever joyce said about it), but it comes off as beautiful in its direct description/explanation of the world and its inhabitants. something like that
>bloom vs stephen
gotta be bloom for me, although i feel that this is mostly because i have very little idea of what stephen is talking about. nonetheless, bloom is fleshy and human compared to the cerebral stephen, talking living and thinking in a way that is undoubtedly human, doubting himself, entertaining fantasies, being wrong: the things that make up the majority of the lived experience, as opposed to the neurotic and learned stephen. i like them both, really
>sex
i don't have an answer for this
I doubt the snatch itself is crippled.
>chapter
Circe is so goddamned funny, first time a book had me in legitimate tears from laughing
>bloom/stephen
Stephen is the more interesting character study to me, but Bloom is actually likeable as a person. Actually, he is seriously admirable. Stephen is a great character study of a sophmore painfully on the verge of self-awareness, though.
>Horn
Could care less
OP three years ago we had a complete read of all of Joyce's works from Dubliners to Ulysses and there was plenty of discussion, although it did die out as we moved through Ulysses. Most anon's fell at the library. was probably there.
Was it really three years ago? I swear it was just last year. I tried to revive it again this past summer but got no bites.
Yep, three years ago and weren't we all just loving neetdom? Feel sick thinking about it to be honest everything has been shit since lel. I still think some anons should come together and do our own annotated version of Dubliners or something
stephen is an insufferable character, it's gotta be bloom for me. ithaca is my favorite chapter.
>talking. What is your favorite chapter?
Controversial choice, but I actually liked the early Stephen chapters/the Telemachia (or three chapters in general corresponding to that section of the Odyssey), where the writing is extremely dense, fractured, poetic and mystical, like the famously hated Proteus chapter. The Nestor chapter also has some of the most beautiful writing in it. Besides that I suppose it would be the Ithaca and Circe chapters, more popular choices. As you can see, I find it hard to choose just one.
>Do you like Bloom best, or do you prefer Stephen?
Again, I have to give an equivocating answer. Bloom is far more likable as a character, warm, human, wry, funny and sympathetic. Stephen is often cold, an alien-like figure, estranged from those around him, overly bookish and arrogant in the way of some young men, and has a big ego. Bloom succeeds as the human character you love more. BUT, again, I oddly enough almost love the parts from Stephen’s P.O.V. more just because they have some of Joyce’s densest, most poetic stream-of-consciousness or polished rhetoric (lines like “God is a shout in the street”), especially when veering into Stephen’s theological and literary speculations.
>How badly do you want to fuck Molly, or would you rather fuck Gerty's crippled little snatch?
Depends on how horny I am at the moment, something in Gerty and the descriptions of her turns me on more, but I don’t quite have the teenage libido of yore that would make this a seriously provocative question for me. I suppose I’d be glad to take what I could get if I had the chance to fuck some embodiment of either of them, or even have a threesome with them.
the book everyone says they love but haven't read.
You won't see me discussing it, nossiree!
I‘ve read it and loved it and can‘t tell you one thing that was in it. Hard to discuss.
It's a ghost story about how Stephen and Bloom see apparitions of their relatives, and a lot of fucking around in between. I'm surprised nobody ever mentions how they both constantly reconnect themselves to their own psychological underworlds. There's a start.
FW is miles better.
(I have only read the first 1/5th or so of both.)
The books reddit is literally a higher quality of discourse than here.
Because the book is for midwits and pseudo-intellectuals.
I agree to a slight degree that in a way the book takes on the persona of the average modern day normie afraid to be serious and care about something truly without irony, BUT i believe its magnificence and overall mastery of the English language and prose outshines this whether you can handle the crassness, the humor, the what have you of it. Joyce forced this to be a literary masterpiece, he knew it wouldn't be readily accepted but its greatness renders it as art that cannot be denied
I always giggle at this, she seethed so fucking hard at Ulysses, vanished for a few years then came out with her own pale imitation in Mrs. Dalloway
Joyce to me represents the most insufferable, horrible, and borderline bad writing that's ever come from the anglophone world and for the life of me I cannot grasp what makes people enjoy his work, nor why he would be considered one of the greats
You really have to be a pretentious fuck to force yourself into liking the kind of progressive prose this nagger has come up with, labelling it as masterpiece, and exactly why? Who wants to read the incoherence of a toddler, or random ramblings of a dimwit teen? I'm glad it's never discussed, and it doesn't deserve to be
I'll discuss it in a thread tomorrow. Keep in mind I've never read it, and I almost outright refuse to read anything from James Joyce.
>gravity's rainbow and ulysses bait threads posted simultaneously
I hate the bots here.
My book had
>The 1934 Text, as corrected and reset in 1961
On the cover, so I was curious as to the context. I learned that this novel has double digit editions with varying degrees of errors and corrections, including those that Joyce added on purpose. It sounds frustrating and interesting at the same time.