>AHH BUT I WAS A MORALLY UPRIGHT PERSON, A LOVING PARENT, AND A CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF SOCIETY! DO I REALLY DESERVE THIS JUST BECAUSE I PICKED THE WRONG GOD !?
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>AHH BUT I WAS A MORALLY UPRIGHT PERSON, A LOVING PARENT, AND A CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF SOCIETY! DO I REALLY DESERVE THIS JUST BECAUSE I PICKED THE WRONG GOD !?
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> actually believes 2000 year old myth fearmongering
> my god is good, also he'll torture you forever if you don't believe in him and also refuses to show himself
So fricking sick of paeuds strawmanning the actual doctrine of hell.
Which church are you?
Catholics do believe you will end up in hell if you knew about Catholicism and didn’t convert.
Hell is the wilful exclusion of the self from the salvation of Christ.
>wilful exclusion
AH I PICKED THE WRONG DOCTRINE OF HELL TO BELIEVE IN
Not really different from how things are for me now
>Hell is the wilful exclusion of the self from the salvation of Christ.
So nothing then. Who cares?
>I chose to be born on North Sentinel Island
please enlighten us.
Money was your god, you served him well
Enjoy
>he didn’t choose Islam
You did it to yourself
OH NO! I WORSHIPED YAHWEH BUT NOT THE CORRECT ITERATION OF HIM! AH!
Did you hear the word of the prophet Muhammad? Why didn’t you listen?
>CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF SOCIETY!
What exactly did you contribute?
What kind of society was it contributed to?
> I WORSHIPED YAHWEH BUT NOT THE CORRECT ITERATION OF HIM! AH!
There is but One.
The wrong one is the one that constantly forks into a million different pieces every time it has a problem.
Clean up your goddamned messes.
No you weren't
OH NO ONCE I LUSTED AFTER A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN AND GOT MAD AT SOMEONE IN TRAFFIC AND NOW I'M DESTINED FOR ENTERAL TORMENT!
Yes
>2022
>not being a universalist
Yes
explain.
God is holy
Sin causes one to fall short of the glory of god
These two are incompatible, even if you think your sin is minor
But is that really worth enteral torment? If anything, annihilationism is almost more merciful than ETC.
ECT*
By what standard?
by our God given conscience
How do you interpret the conscience to determine whats more merciful/just and what's not regarding damnation?
by the same standard that I know that murder and theft is wrong, by the law of God written on our heats
In this case the text of scripture (special revelation) contradicts your speculative view, just like the psalmist says when he warns the heart is deceitful above all things
Protestant troony non-sense
Hey Dirk. Did you actually call or text the number gdp schizo gave you?
Not sending someone to eternal torture is more merciful than sending someone to eternal torture.
A NORMAL human inherently understands this.
Even if so it's unjust. Christian theology does not claim god is maximally merciful, as in exercises mercy in all circumstances. He has however performed the work to cover the sin debt of the whole world who repents, so like was discussed before it's a sinner problem not a god problem.
If the bank loans you $1mil, then the bank offers to forgive your loan without payment, and you don't accept the offer, the bank cannot he accused of failing to be merciful.
>Christian theology does not claim god is maximally merciful,
>"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies NEVER come to an end." Lamentations 3:22
>"But I received mercy for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his PERFECT PATIENCE as an example to those who were to believe in him for eternal life." 1 Timothy 1:16
>"Go, and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, “Return, faithless Israel,” declares the Lord. “I will not look on you in anger, for I am merciful, declares the Lord;” “I will NOT be angry forever.” Jeremiah 3:12
Now of course Dirk will proceed to give the ad hoc rationalizations he has memorised in order to convince us that the Bible definitely doesn't contradict itself. It's a typical christcuck practice.
Calm down bud
What I said doesn't contradict what you've cited
Nah, being merciful is a great-making property
By what standard are you getting the moral expectation that God will indeed fulfill the promises He made in the Bible, Dirk? After all, if "God's ways are not our ways", why assume that He wouldn't lie to us (for morally sufficient reasons, of course)?
His past promises which were fulfilled
You're really throwing a hail Mary with this one because if God is entirely unknowable or his word untrustworthy like you're implying you could not claim to know annihilationism is true or ECT is false
>His past promises which were fulfilled
Why do you assume that God has to be coherent? It seems like you are applying your subjective and "untrustworthy" human moral expectations to Him
>You're really throwing a hail Mary with this one
Yes, that's precisely what I'm trying to show: that to appeal to divine inescrutability like you christians do in order to justify the many immoral actions of your God os ultimately self-refuting. I'm not a Christian, of course, ans precisely because of things like these.
I'm not in a position of assuming as I have firsthand knowledge of the being and character of God who saved me from my sin
I also have a firsthand knowledge of the fact that Yahweh doesn't exist and that all Christians are mentally impaired. Presuppositionalism is truly wonderful, isn't it?
>I have firsthand knowledge which proves a negative
Ok bro
>Unironically thinking you don't deserve to go to Hell just because you were a "good person"
ISHYGDDT
Tritheists go to Hell.
I mean, life isn't fair so why would afterlife be fair? From what I've seen of the world, if their is an after life this is most plausible.
Just think about it. How many billions are in the furnace right now, roasting in darkness and being sodomized with flame for their sins. And the fact that so many of their crimes are so trivial, so pedestrian, fills me with glee. So many "good" people who were only good because they were nobodies, because they didn't try to be any better than slime, when God meant for them to be so much more and they spat in his face by being nothing. Now Hell is where they are and Hell is where they will stay, forever. Anyone who's been down there for even a month might think it's been thousands of years. And there are many who have been down there for thousands of years, yet that's just a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of nothing compared to the unfathomable immensity that is eternity. It's just going to keep going and going and billions more will be added to bottomless pit of screaming souls. Rot in Hell motherfrickers, you deserve it and I'll spend every second of eternity in paradise looking down on you and gloating.
t. calvin
Such a gay larp to even know what this website is and think like you do hatetroony
>Gloating devil-worshipper larping as a god-worshipper.
Satan's greatest trick: hellfire Abrahamism.
Yes
>there's physical pain on something that doesn't have a physical body because there's not electrical signals sent from the skin to trigger the released of activity in your brain to signal physical pain
>this is somehow emulated in a methaphysical realm without the physical structures that resemble brain signals and skin nerves
explain how pain exist in a spiritual world.
how a burn exists in a realm that has not physical atoms in the first place to cause combustion?
all feelings and perception happens in the soul, sensory organs and the brain are just the soul's tools
>happens in the soul
care to show me scientific evidence the soul is real?
>care to show me scientific evidence the soul is real?
NPC moment
care to show me a logical argument why the conciousness isn't a logical emergent property of a trillion over trillion graph of computer like chemical computations that uses some form of low energetic massive multiparalelism and innate biological machine learning paralel structures.
Only becuase you can't give any evidence for it.
>GIVE ME MATERIAL PROOF OF SOMETHING IMMATERIAL
yikes
What would happen if the soul was detached? What if we built a computer that could simulate a human body down to a molecular level? Would the operations within the body just not work?
Hellfire is probably a metaphor(for eternal superdepression)
Noone lives a sinless life, anon, which is what is required to get into heaven without Absolution
>Noone lives a sinless life, anon
So your god punishes people for making them not perfect (i.e. not being god). Nope, that seems very reasonable.
Paul said the saved recive new bodies just like Jesus had a new body when he was raised, so maybe damned people do also.
you can't be "morally upright" without being a monotheist (tawheed)
because christianity is a death cult
We are all sinners. God will sort us out one way or another. If you don’t believe in God or hell then why even bother questioning it? The bible clearly states how Jesus descended into hell and harrowed it. So no, mrs. 1000bc who loved a good life isn’t burning in hell forever. The rest of us just have to do the best we can and hope by the grace of God we do Ok.
A lovely post, but this is not the doctrine of most christian churches
It's just a false Christcuck Threat, nothing more!
>A CONTRIBUTING MEMBER OF SOCIETY
Society is literally evil, corrupted, and demonic. If you were a mortally upright person, you’d seek to destroy society.
>I PICKED THE WRONG GOD
You are ok. You hanged out at a sunday club.
Not a single one of the organized religions has any god left.
>morally upright
oh? am I to understand that you lay claim to a righteousness that meets God's perfect standard? Consult the Scriptures and see what God demands of those who would stand before Him in holiness and enter into everlasting bliss.
>but I picked the wrong god
The only "god" that chooses to worshp in this modern society is "self"; that and the fetishism of their perverted lusts. You are a graceless fool who is bereft of the truth, and your contribution to "society" is merely a pebble atop a mass grave. Be gone with you.