This is the ideal place for the current life, so chances are it will be ideal for the next one too. Keep in mind all the story lines, we take turns to kill, marry and give birth to each others.
The universe is huge but right now it seems like were some of the first life if not the first life to arise. That might seem impossible if you consider how old the universe is but you have to remember that for the vast majority of the universe's history it was completely inhospitable, it's only recently become a place where life could arise without being immediately wiped out, and as time goes on the universe will become even less hostile.
>After you die if you're reincarnated, why would you be reincarnated on earth as a human?
Because you yourself will create your next life. It would be your will to be reincarnated on earth as a human, if that's what your will wants.
Imagine you had infinite time. After a billion years you'd get bored after doing pretty much everything you can think up. So why not visit the material plane, ruled by probability waves, for some inspiration and new experiences?
We see what humans are like after they've eliminated all stresses and possibility of harm -- rich people have no actual threats to them at this point in history, they've never known pain, loss, stress, suffering. So they willingly do stupid things and torture others, simply because there is nothing else to do. And most of them have been here less than a hundred years.
Given enough time you'll want to be the torturer and the tortured in every possible and impossible extreme. And if you have infinite time, you'll willingly desire these things an infinite number of times.
I genuinely hope I am never reincarnated to this plane. I either need to make it to the Absolute in this lifetime, or push come to shove, get reincarnated to another plane. I don't want to serve another lifetime here.
Buddhism acknowledges this too and regards being born as a human as very lucky since you are sentient and can have happiness while also suffering enough to strife to escape samsara.
Ravens at least must be sentient. I bet many noble animals are, and I also doubt happiness requires sentience. If any creature were non-attached enough for so called enlightenment why not a Cat?
The Buddhist narrative makes little sense on this issue and all the random animal incarnation stuff just seems like moralistic coercing and or nihilistic universalism resulting from their no-self dogma.
Not everyone has a choice on where they reincarnate.
I think it's not a volitional choice. It's where you energetically resonate towards, which can change with a lot of choices over your life. Often that's just Helheim or another human body. People report injuries recieved carrying over not injuries dealt, so it's not just new age golden rule karma.
I don't know the answers but it makes sense this way to me.
Not just now, no, it has long been a reason to doubt the buddhist version of reincarnation.
Why wouldn't it be random?
Because randomness does not exist in the world, only the idea of randomness exists in the minds of modern autistic reductionists, and seething self proclaimed skeptics. As lord Vivec said to such lobbyists, 36LOV S4: "'Is not the sudden revelation of corresponding conditions and disparate elements that gel at the moment of the coincidence one of the prerequisites to being, in fact, coincidental? Synchronicity comes out of repeated coincidences at the lowest level. Further examination shows it is the utter power of the sheer number of coincidences that leads one to the idea that synchronicity is guided by something more than chance. Therefore, synchronicity ends up invalidating the concept of the coincidental, even though they are the symptomatic signs that bring it to the surface."
in other words coincidence hides within it, the principle of correspondence, which applied across rhythm become synchronicities, which are perceptible patterns in the Wyrd, and thus evidence of the hands of Fate in the world. Furthermore, the motion of Rahu-Ketu is not random, and the significance of Ketu to past lives is well established, nor does any celestial body behave randomly but in rhythmic cycles of geometric patterns, nor does water or air flow randomly but whirls according to the same laws of nature governing the flow of aether, wherein all gross matter embeds itself. How could reincarnation be random, when no cycle is random?
Quite the opposite. If you're otherwise advanced enough to not revert to animal form, you're attuned to this place and more likely to be a person.
Sentience is not binary but no, ravens, while somewhat intelligent are not comparable with average human. Neither are dolphins. But they're closer than many others.
Not saying I know the answer, but my take on it has always been that we're here because this reality matches our level of consciousness.
Like if you genuinely believe "death", "survival", "fighting over resources", "everything is in a state of decay", basically the laws of our reality that we're taught since birth, then why would you ever end up in a different reality with different laws that you don't believe in?
So you still align with realities like this one, and just end up returning to it.
I think this is also why nobody from higher realms can just come and "save us" because they cannot enter this state of consciousness. You have to _become_ it to enter it.
So for us to leave it, we have to first remove all the low awareness shit we carry around that keeps us believing realities such as this make any sense at all.
And then of course you have many humans who end up believing even worse shit like domination, subjugation, making others suffer, etc, and those guys are also going to be leaving this reality, but they're going toward more negative ones because that's what they align with.
I thought this when I was a kid but about specific things in this world. Like when I was younger and would go on social media and look at memes, and it was exactly the level of entertainment and type of content that seemed to align with my state of consciousness at that time, being a young kid. Basically thinking that my reality is aligned with my state of consciousness. I think that Buddhists believe in something similar, that your mental/emotional state at the time of death influences what kind of state of being you will take in your next, immediate birth. I even noticed this with dreams. One time, I was in a super relaxed state (had a direct realization about OCD always being about control and trying to control things and it calmed me down a lot, but I eventually got stuck in the OCD habits again) and I had an amazingly peaceful dream.
You probably wouldn't be, initially. You probably go through like a million other brief lives as a myriad of life, from insects to prey animals and so on. You were probably even a plant, at some point in your cosmic existence.
Of course, you wouldn't have the higher brain function to really process these various existences with your various less-developed brains, so from your perspective you might as well jump right back into being human.
Why would anything be random? The Fates artistically weave you into another thread of the web, based on your karma, which corresponding to the music of the spheres, the lunar nodes Rahu and Ketu indicate future and past life things respectively. Why would you believe in randomness and also have a metaphysical belief in reincarnation? Many people even stay in the same bloodline(s.) I don't get why many buddhists say we're all gonna be random animals as a punishment. Your 'punishment' will be planetary afflictions in the next life.
i always wondered how unborn relatives that await their turn in this reality react to, when
their latest ancestor chooses interracial relationship. Wouldn't that bring tons of complications to that concept?
Maybe you like it here and request the assignment? I've only been here a few times, and honestly, this place has become a crap hole, I think I might avoid this iteration of this particular universe at this dimension and density for my next life.
>After you die if you're reincarnated, why would you be reincarnated on earth as a human?
This is the consequence of socializing Buddhist concepts to non-Buddhist countries who end up divorcing it from any semblance of coherency because they're not Buddhist. You fundamentally do not understand the consequences of reincarnation and the concepts that develop around that and have reduced it to some hedonistic thought experiment; though the only thing Westerners care about is hedonism.
Not him: >What souls do without body?
There's whole realms of existence, things to experience, learn and do. Just because you have no body doesn't mean there is nothing else. >Why would I want a body?
Experience of physicality, flaws, struggles, drives, failures and successes of a living being
When most of us incarnated here in the 80's and early 90s it was still pretty good. We probably had no idea how badly and quickly the shit would hit the fan.
I strongly doubt it's that. Supposedly time is another dimension that's perceived when one's a spirit devoid of trapping of humanity. Interesting theory I've heard is that we incarnate simply for experience for it. Including bad ones which are valuable all on their own to otherwise unlimited, self-sufficient spirits. All that shit from the standpoint of higher beings is as valuable as the good times. We are simply main characters of the full-immersion slice of life drama for higher beings.
>why would you be reincarnated on earth as a human?
been thinking about the "video game: earth" lately. I think each reality is a school where we learn to increase our understanding of love. so there are easy mode worlds, where the veil is thin and the beings live in harmoy and manifestation can happen quickly but "growing up" into a higher form of consciousness takes a long time.
then there's planet earth: hard mode with turbo suffering. manifestation takes a long time, so much so, that we don't even notice it, while being thrown into a society ruled by man's law, taking away free will left and right for material gain and power. the veil is so thick, that for many god doesn't even exist. BUT due to these nightmare settings, our loosh production is massive and of the highest quality, our consciousness can grow rapidly towards any direction so it takes less time.
so maybe, before you came here, you said "I have trouble understanding the concept of community and the absence of bliss and I already played many games on other worlds. I need something more challenging".
and then you came here, got trapped in the matrix by building up bad karma and now you're stuck in hell world with saturnian archons holding you hostage. that's just my theory, though but I understand there's a reason for everything.
Why?
Universe is really big and the idea that we would be reincarnated as humans on earth really seems human centric and unlikely
Earth is the only place with real life.
This is the ideal place for the current life, so chances are it will be ideal for the next one too. Keep in mind all the story lines, we take turns to kill, marry and give birth to each others.
It is improbably slim. Next up in line is an ayy vessel.
The universe is huge but right now it seems like were some of the first life if not the first life to arise. That might seem impossible if you consider how old the universe is but you have to remember that for the vast majority of the universe's history it was completely inhospitable, it's only recently become a place where life could arise without being immediately wiped out, and as time goes on the universe will become even less hostile.
>After you die if you're reincarnated, why would you be reincarnated on earth as a human?
Because you yourself will create your next life. It would be your will to be reincarnated on earth as a human, if that's what your will wants.
>The chances seem very slim.
How so?
>Because you yourself will create your next life
Who the fuck is choosing to be reincarnated as an African child soldier?
they just want to know what it's like
Imagine all the indians, all the africans and chinese with shit lives. They can't all choose to live like this. What for?
Imagine you had infinite time. After a billion years you'd get bored after doing pretty much everything you can think up. So why not visit the material plane, ruled by probability waves, for some inspiration and new experiences?
We see what humans are like after they've eliminated all stresses and possibility of harm -- rich people have no actual threats to them at this point in history, they've never known pain, loss, stress, suffering. So they willingly do stupid things and torture others, simply because there is nothing else to do. And most of them have been here less than a hundred years.
Given enough time you'll want to be the torturer and the tortured in every possible and impossible extreme. And if you have infinite time, you'll willingly desire these things an infinite number of times.
especially when you get so bored you want to act out entire scenarios. Imagine WW2 just being acted out because some powerful energy could.
Only humans have souls and my soul has to go somewhere
I genuinely hope I am never reincarnated to this plane. I either need to make it to the Absolute in this lifetime, or push come to shove, get reincarnated to another plane. I don't want to serve another lifetime here.
no meat, no porn, no negative emotions and traits then.
Buddhism acknowledges this too and regards being born as a human as very lucky since you are sentient and can have happiness while also suffering enough to strife to escape samsara.
Ravens at least must be sentient. I bet many noble animals are, and I also doubt happiness requires sentience. If any creature were non-attached enough for so called enlightenment why not a Cat?
The Buddhist narrative makes little sense on this issue and all the random animal incarnation stuff just seems like moralistic coercing and or nihilistic universalism resulting from their no-self dogma.
I think it's not a volitional choice. It's where you energetically resonate towards, which can change with a lot of choices over your life. Often that's just Helheim or another human body. People report injuries recieved carrying over not injuries dealt, so it's not just new age golden rule karma.
I don't know the answers but it makes sense this way to me.
>just now realizing non-human animals are sentient
Not just now, no, it has long been a reason to doubt the buddhist version of reincarnation.
Because randomness does not exist in the world, only the idea of randomness exists in the minds of modern autistic reductionists, and seething self proclaimed skeptics. As lord Vivec said to such lobbyists, 36LOV S4: "'Is not the sudden revelation of corresponding conditions and disparate elements that gel at the moment of the coincidence one of the prerequisites to being, in fact, coincidental? Synchronicity comes out of repeated coincidences at the lowest level. Further examination shows it is the utter power of the sheer number of coincidences that leads one to the idea that synchronicity is guided by something more than chance. Therefore, synchronicity ends up invalidating the concept of the coincidental, even though they are the symptomatic signs that bring it to the surface."
in other words coincidence hides within it, the principle of correspondence, which applied across rhythm become synchronicities, which are perceptible patterns in the Wyrd, and thus evidence of the hands of Fate in the world. Furthermore, the motion of Rahu-Ketu is not random, and the significance of Ketu to past lives is well established, nor does any celestial body behave randomly but in rhythmic cycles of geometric patterns, nor does water or air flow randomly but whirls according to the same laws of nature governing the flow of aether, wherein all gross matter embeds itself. How could reincarnation be random, when no cycle is random?
Quite the opposite. If you're otherwise advanced enough to not revert to animal form, you're attuned to this place and more likely to be a person.
Sentience is not binary but no, ravens, while somewhat intelligent are not comparable with average human. Neither are dolphins. But they're closer than many others.
Space isn't real retard
Reincarnation is not aleatory.
Not saying I know the answer, but my take on it has always been that we're here because this reality matches our level of consciousness.
Like if you genuinely believe "death", "survival", "fighting over resources", "everything is in a state of decay", basically the laws of our reality that we're taught since birth, then why would you ever end up in a different reality with different laws that you don't believe in?
So you still align with realities like this one, and just end up returning to it.
I think this is also why nobody from higher realms can just come and "save us" because they cannot enter this state of consciousness. You have to _become_ it to enter it.
So for us to leave it, we have to first remove all the low awareness shit we carry around that keeps us believing realities such as this make any sense at all.
And then of course you have many humans who end up believing even worse shit like domination, subjugation, making others suffer, etc, and those guys are also going to be leaving this reality, but they're going toward more negative ones because that's what they align with.
I thought this when I was a kid but about specific things in this world. Like when I was younger and would go on social media and look at memes, and it was exactly the level of entertainment and type of content that seemed to align with my state of consciousness at that time, being a young kid. Basically thinking that my reality is aligned with my state of consciousness. I think that Buddhists believe in something similar, that your mental/emotional state at the time of death influences what kind of state of being you will take in your next, immediate birth. I even noticed this with dreams. One time, I was in a super relaxed state (had a direct realization about OCD always being about control and trying to control things and it calmed me down a lot, but I eventually got stuck in the OCD habits again) and I had an amazingly peaceful dream.
You probably wouldn't be, initially. You probably go through like a million other brief lives as a myriad of life, from insects to prey animals and so on. You were probably even a plant, at some point in your cosmic existence.
Of course, you wouldn't have the higher brain function to really process these various existences with your various less-developed brains, so from your perspective you might as well jump right back into being human.
Why would anything be random? The Fates artistically weave you into another thread of the web, based on your karma, which corresponding to the music of the spheres, the lunar nodes Rahu and Ketu indicate future and past life things respectively. Why would you believe in randomness and also have a metaphysical belief in reincarnation? Many people even stay in the same bloodline(s.) I don't get why many buddhists say we're all gonna be random animals as a punishment. Your 'punishment' will be planetary afflictions in the next life.
Why wouldn't it be random?
i always wondered how unborn relatives that await their turn in this reality react to, when
their latest ancestor chooses interracial relationship. Wouldn't that bring tons of complications to that concept?
They will not be born in this timeline but rather the one that has adolf hitler winning
Not everyone has a choice on where they reincarnate.
You just say that because you have a tentacle hentai fetish and hope to be reincarnated as a cephalopod.
Maybe you like it here and request the assignment? I've only been here a few times, and honestly, this place has become a crap hole, I think I might avoid this iteration of this particular universe at this dimension and density for my next life.
This is just one world of many and were honestly the best and most reinforced astral fortress out there and for good reason (backup, resillience)
the only animals that have a higher population than us at this point would be livestock and insects.
I wish I reincarnate into a god
Maybe it's not random. Maybe there's something up there deciding where you go.
It is you who decides, every enlightened person knows this.
I'm not enlightened and neither are you
The point was that it's not a mystery, no use pretending we don't know or can't know.
Odds are unfortunately an animal/nog/chinaman.
>The chances seem very slim.
This ceases to matter if the universe is cycling through an infinite number of new forms.
>After you die if you're reincarnated, why would you be reincarnated on earth as a human?
This is the consequence of socializing Buddhist concepts to non-Buddhist countries who end up divorcing it from any semblance of coherency because they're not Buddhist. You fundamentally do not understand the consequences of reincarnation and the concepts that develop around that and have reduced it to some hedonistic thought experiment; though the only thing Westerners care about is hedonism.
How do reincarnationists explain population growth?
There's always more souls than bodies.
Especially souls of not so great vibrational quality
What souls do without body? Just chill? Where do they hang out? Why would I want a body?
Not him:
>What souls do without body?
There's whole realms of existence, things to experience, learn and do. Just because you have no body doesn't mean there is nothing else.
>Why would I want a body?
Experience of physicality, flaws, struggles, drives, failures and successes of a living being
When most of us incarnated here in the 80's and early 90s it was still pretty good. We probably had no idea how badly and quickly the shit would hit the fan.
I strongly doubt it's that. Supposedly time is another dimension that's perceived when one's a spirit devoid of trapping of humanity. Interesting theory I've heard is that we incarnate simply for experience for it. Including bad ones which are valuable all on their own to otherwise unlimited, self-sufficient spirits. All that shit from the standpoint of higher beings is as valuable as the good times. We are simply main characters of the full-immersion slice of life drama for higher beings.
>why would you be reincarnated on earth as a human?
been thinking about the "video game: earth" lately. I think each reality is a school where we learn to increase our understanding of love. so there are easy mode worlds, where the veil is thin and the beings live in harmoy and manifestation can happen quickly but "growing up" into a higher form of consciousness takes a long time.
then there's planet earth: hard mode with turbo suffering. manifestation takes a long time, so much so, that we don't even notice it, while being thrown into a society ruled by man's law, taking away free will left and right for material gain and power. the veil is so thick, that for many god doesn't even exist. BUT due to these nightmare settings, our loosh production is massive and of the highest quality, our consciousness can grow rapidly towards any direction so it takes less time.
so maybe, before you came here, you said "I have trouble understanding the concept of community and the absence of bliss and I already played many games on other worlds. I need something more challenging".
and then you came here, got trapped in the matrix by building up bad karma and now you're stuck in hell world with saturnian archons holding you hostage. that's just my theory, though but I understand there's a reason for everything.
I want to go to white people heaven with jesus and ronald reagan
>humans get pissed when reincarnated in a inferior class or caste
>imagine reincarnating as a fucking animal
are you actually dwayne johnson?
>why am i not dwayne johnson
well what are you
>not dwayne johnson
that's probably why
it's a unending loop peepee vagaygay
dwayne johnson may ask why he is not not dwayne johnson
is he dwayne johnson yeah and what he is is as much himself as what he does
Good karma makes you able to reincarnate as a White man.
naggers are probably literally cursed because of bad karma honestly.
isn't it kinda funny that if you're reading this then there was always 100% chance that you would be you reading this?