African armies

>no cavalry
>no armor
>nothing but cow hide shields
>literally fought naked of in animal skins
>lost against every foreign army they faced

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Muslim africa had cavalry and armor

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >no cavalry
    West Africa and East Africa had calvalry. This is only true for south of the Congo basin.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Holy frick

    Every fricking day you post this autistic fricking thread

    And every fricking day you INSIST on dumping your autism armor folder

    Frick off

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Reddit

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Trump lost

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are they in the room with us now OP?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Holy Reddit spacing, please go back

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

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  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >no cavalry
    >no armor
    I want shitposters to neck themselves.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Mali was berber.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Berbers can be black and Mali was mostly Mandike and Fula

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          But they weren't. Mali was settled by Arabs and Berbers from North Africa. There were only mud huts there and anything beyond that was built by Arab and Berber setters. Mali wasn't even a blip on the radar until settled by Caucasians. All of the texts and records are in Arabic because blacks had no written languages.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            KYS OP

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >All of the texts and records are in Arabic because blacks had no written languages
            This is like saying because all written correspondence until well into the Middle Ages in Western europe was done in Latin, only Romans/Italians knew how to write.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So were all Scythians greek and Persian then? What shitty logic is this?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That doesn't change what I said, Mali was and still is, populated mostly by Niger-Congo peoples. Its true that Arabs and Berbers introduced civilization in the area but that isn't unique thing since the Romans, Greeks and Iranians introduced civilization to the Berbers and Arabs before and so it doesn't mean everything was built by foreigners. The military was mostly Mande and Fula because Arabs and Berbers were only minorities.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That's not even true. Organized societies developed along the Upper Niger due to high crop yields of rice and the need to defend settlements from the raids of Berber and Fulani barbarians. The early Sahara was more lush than it is now and the Mande were able to construct settlements of stone in what is now desert.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Most Malians were and still are black people. The Amazigh migrated south into Mali, similar to how some Sahelian Black Africans migrated north into southern Libya.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        and? still africans.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >lost against every foreign army they face
    Zulus outflanked and slaughtered an entire British Army division at the Battle of Isandwala in 1879. The first time in history that natives defeated a modern western army.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      neat!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Seems you're high and don't know about the first Ethio-Italian War

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Meanwhile in reality
    >troops with no cavalry, no armor, not even a cow hide shield win against African cavalry using wooden/metal shields.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You mean south African armies?
    Horners and Sehel armies were known for having good cavalry, even used as mercs by the muslims at times.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw Mali literally means "hippopotamus" in Mandingo
    >mfw the royals of Mali were literally called the "Mansare" meaning Lords of the Sky because they trace their lineage to the first humans to descend from heaven on the golden ark of the water goddess
    >mfw the locals of Mali called it Niani after the core kingdom established by Baramenda Keita
    >mfw somehow this means Mali was founded by Berbers according to idiots

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kitombo

    >The governor of Luanda, Francisco de Távora, ordered a force of Portuguese, augmented by native allies such as the feared Imbangala, into Sôyo to crush the kingdom once and for all.[5] It was led by João Soares de Almeida, with the most powerful colonial force that had been organised in Central Africa up until then.[6] It included 400 musketeers, a rare detachment of cavalry, 4 light cannons, an unknown number of levee bowmen, Imbangala auxiliaries and even some naval vessels.

    >The BaKongo forces regrouped at Nfinda Ngula, a densely forested area that had served Soyo well in their battles against Kongo during the invasions of Garcia II. The Soyo-Ngoyo army rallied around Estêvão Da Silva and his light artillery pieces.[10][5] It proved difficult to access for the Portuguese artillery, allowing the allied force to use the Dutch light field pieces to good effect. They then charged and routed the Portuguese. The colonial army was comprehensively destroyed.[6] The Portuguese not killed in the battle drowned attempting to flee across the river or were captured.[6] Legend has it the captives were offered as white slaves to the Dutch.[6] Its commander, de Almeida, died during the battle.[5]

    >The Battle of Kitombo was a humiliating defeat for the Portuguese and a boon for the state of Soyo. Portuguese Angola remained hostile to Soyo and Kongo, but they dared not venture back.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The Battle of Mbandi Kasi was a military engagement between forces of Portuguese Angola and the Kingdom of Kongo during their first armed conflict which spanned from 1622 to 1623. The battle, while not widely reported by the Portuguese, was recorded in correspondence between the Kongolese and their Dutch allies. The battle marked the turn of the short war in the favor of Kongo and led to the ouster of the Portuguese governor of Luanda and the return of Kongolese subjects taken as slaves in earlier campaigns.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >In 642, 'Amr ibn al-'As sent a column of 20,000 horsemen under his cousin Uqba ibn Nafi against Makuria. They managed to get as far as Dongola, the capital of Makuria. However, in a rare turn of events, the Arab forces were beaten back.[3]

        >According to historian Al-Baladhuri, the Muslims found that the Nubians fought strongly and met them with showers of arrows. The majority of the Arab forces returned with wounded and blinded eyes. It was thus that the Nubians were called 'the pupil smiters'.[2] Al-Baladhuri also states, quoting from one of his sources that went to Nubia twice during the rule of `Umar ibn al-Khattab.[5]

        >"One day they came out against us and formed a line; we wanted to use swords, but we were not able to, and they shot at us and put out eyes to the number of one hundred and fifty."
        The Nubian victory at Dongola was one of the Rashidun Caliphate's rare defeats during the mid-7th century. With their archers' deadly accuracy plus their own experienced cavalry forces, Makuria was able to shake the Amr's confidence enough for him to withdraw his forces from Nubia.[4]

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Abdallah marched a force of 5,000 men to the Makurian capital of Dongola in 651.[1] He was equipped with heavy cavalry and a catapult (manjaniq), probably a traction trebuchet,[4] which according to al-Maqrizi the Makurians had never seen before.[3] He then laid siege to the city,[5] putting his cavalry in the precarious situation of storming a walled city defended by the infamous Nubian archers.[6] During the siege the town's cathedral was damaged by catapult fire.[1] (A damaged church has been discovered outside the remains of the city walls dating to the mid-seventh century.[3])

          >The siege ended in a pitched battle.[7] The casualties incurred by Abdallah's forces were heavy,[6] and Qalidurut did not sue for peace.[1] In the end, Abdallah called off the siege and negotiated a pact (baqt).[2] According to the 9th-century Egyptian historian Ibn 'Abd al-Hakam this was because "he was unable to defeat them". The 10th-century Shiite historian Ahmad al-Kufi, who had no sympathy for the forces of the caliph, had an even stronger opinion: "The Muslims had never [before] suffered a loss like the one they had in Nubia."[7] An Arab poet describing the battle wrote:[8]

          >"My eyes ne'er saw another fight like Damqula [Dongola],
          With rushing horses loaded down with coats of mail."
          In the centuries that followed, however, the siege and second battle of Dongola were transformed by Muslim historians into a victory. Qalidurut was said to have come out of the city submissively seeking terms, according to al-Maqrizi.[7] It may be that this version of events stems from the conflation of the events of 652 with late 13th-century conflict between Nubia and the Mamluks.[3]

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >lost against every foreign army they faced
    Not that straightforward. One of the biggest parts of the colonial armies in Africa was them making use of local soldiers and mercenaries to fill their numbers and to provide expertise. On top of that it was only with modern weaponry and artillery were many battles handily won (and not ever colony was obtained in a conflict) and not even that helped Italy out since they lost the first Italo-Ethiopian war.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they will find exceptions but never admit that everything you listed was the norm for the majority of the people there

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Germans did the same and overcame the tightly drilled and lavishly equipped Roman armies to such a degree that the only thing of the Romans left are a few genetic markers in a largely Germanic Europe.

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