Abrahamists do not have an answer for the following;
>Why did God create billions of other planets and stars if the Earth is meant to hold significance?
>Why did God create life billions of years before man if man is meant to be significant?
>Why did God only chose to reveal himself within the most recent 1% of human history if God is meant to be significant
>if God real why universe big
The other two are false.
Are you a young earth creationist?
Amen.
It's a stupid question to ask. The universe is an immense tapestry of divine glory
If you are YEC then you in a weird place anon. The data does not say YEC is true, holding into to that is just holding onto literalism. As a Christians arent we called to seek the truth. Literalism is just not it, the earth is much much older than 10k years.
>The universe is an immense tapestry of divine glory
Okay but why?
>>if God real why universe big
This is a fair question to ask. How do the literal billions of lifeless rocks out in there in the universe serve Gods greater plans? We know these dead planets are out there, and we know its physically impossible to explore even a fraction of them. Is God just retarded?
why the FUCK would I, a mortal man who's a speck in the grand design of the universe, have any expectation to fully know and comprehend the creation of something as immense and infinite as GOD? retarded
>We know these dead planets are out there, and we know its physically impossible to explore even a fraction of them.
Uhh proof? What do you think we'll be doing for the next few billions of years
All places in the universe are overseen by God's angels so technically no planet is truly lifeless.
I’d hate to be an angel assigned to the andromeda galaxy, shit must be so fucking boring.
How do we know he hasn’t created other beings on other planets? Either in the past, present or will in the future?
Why didn't he just create life on all the other planets then? Why didn't he create life on Mars?
does there need to be a reason? why did some french mailman build a castle in his free time? why do people make art? god made the universe beautiful because he wanted the universe to be beautiful
most retarded circular reasoning i've ever seen
>if i don't understand it then it must be god 🙂
>I believe this because it is in fact based and differentpilled.
Wow look at this yespilled boy
It he based?
um - YES.
>Muh 6000 year old snowglobe
Creationists are a different breed of stupid
1- If the barrenness of the universe contrasts so much with the Earth, then our significance and special status becomes obvious. The more we observe the universe, the more special we become.
People however like to irrationally use the vastness of the universe in the opposite sense, to justify their hedonism as in your pic - Vast meaningless universe, therefore i can be imoral.
2-the billions years earth thing and evolution is a lie
3-also stems from the previous lie
>2-the billions years earth thing and evolution is a lie
I would love to see you try and debunk the radiocarbondating of fucking Zircon crystals
>atheist picks fight with literalist Christian
They’ll never get to the bottom of it
God is knowable by your sense of self.
Any assertion made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You're just making shit up right now. I can say the Earth is actually only 5 days old and it would be just as valid. You can't prove the Earth isn't just 5 days old. All our memories from before 5 days ago could just be false.
>I can say the Earth is actually only 5 days old and it would be just as valid. You can't prove the Earth isn't just 5 days old. All our memories from before 5 days ago could just be false.
Ok, sure. Can you disprove this? I would like to see proof this is not true.
>The data does not say YEC is true
The data doesn't say anything, data cannot speak. The bible on the other hand...
>holding into to that is just holding onto literalism
"Literalism" is a buzzword of heretics and unbelievers.
>As a Christians arent we called to seek the truth
Amen. John 17:17 "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
>Ok, sure. Can you disprove this? I would like to see proof this is not true.
I can't. That's the point. That's why "disproving" something is inherently illogical. You can only seek to prove something through evidence, we then work our way backwards based on the evidence we have until we reach a logical conclusion. We know for example, the decay rate and half life of material foiund in Zicron crystals, and we use this information to determine that they are around 4 billion years old.
You don't have evidence because christianity is not evidence based, its fath based, which is at odds with what we can observe. You can only assert without evidence, but you can just as easily dismiss without evidence.
>I can't. That's the point
But you don't realize you completely owned yourself. You can't disprove last thursdayism, which means you can't disprove YEC either.
>That's why "disproving" something is inherently illogical. You can only seek to prove something through evidence
Disproving things is much more important in science than proving them
>We know for example, the decay rate and half life of material foiund in Zicron crystals, and we use this information to determine that they are around 4 billion years old.
That information tells you how old they could be, not how old they are. They could not be older than 4 billion years old, however, they are actually more like 6,000 years old.
>You don't have evidence because christianity is not evidence based
Incorrect
>at odds with what we can observe
Scientific observation confirms biblical creation. https://youtu.be/XatoDTlXRgY?si=nPukQ55hauLDiU3l
>You can't disprove last thursdayism, which means you can't disprove YEC either.
Correct, I'm calling you a retard. I'm sorry that flew over your head. And speaking of "self-own", you just admitted YEC is just as valid of a theory as Last Thursdayism. So whole we're just making shit up now, I can your religion is completely bullshit and not even have to prove it. Isn't Hertz' Razor great?
YEC is proven to be absolutely true by the following syllogism
P1: the bible is the infallible word of God
P2: the bible teaches YEC
C: YEC is true
P1: The bible is s random book written by some israelites centuries ago
P2; Said israelites were also retarded
C: The YEC is not true.
I mean we can do this all day if you want to. You don't need evidence to make your assertions, I don't need evidence to make mine.
That's not an assertion, it's an argument. Your response requires us to reject P1. I contend there is no means to reject the conclusion without rejecting P1, which means any and all arguments against Christianity on the basis of muh Darwin, muh old earth represent the informal logical fallacy of begging the question and are therefore invalid arguments. The great excuse of modern man now lies dead.
Yeah, but I just did reject it. Sorry man, you should assert harder next time. Thats how arguments work right? Its whoever asserts harder? Well I just asserted 5 times more than you so I win.
>I contend there is no means to reject the conclusion without rejecting P1
Because P2 only works within your logical framework, we can dismiss it. You're retarded.
You *can* also defeat the argument by rejecting P2, however, doing so also eliminates the apologetic relevance of evolutionism (if evolution is compatible with the bible then it being true is not evidence against the bible).
>(if evolution is compatible with the bible then it being true is not evidence against the bible).
There is no such thing as evidence "against" something, only in favor of something. We've been through this but I think you're just slow. Disproving something is inherently illogical. The burden of proof is on you to determine that YEC is real. Which you have not done.
Incoherent
>The burden of proof is on you to determine that YEC is real
Done
YEC is not real
>Proof
I just said so
I mean according to you thats how proof works.
You want to keep going down this circular logic?
The fact I said so isn't proof, Anon. The fact God said so is
God didn't say that
It's right there in the bible.
The Bible is not Gods word
You're wrong
Prove it
No.
Why? Because you can't? Guess that means I'm right.
I reject P1, citing that Jesus was prophecized to come back within his apostles' lifetime and never did.
He did come back. From the dead.
That's not the second coming, and you know it.
I didn't say it was. We were specifically told *not* to predict the second coming.
>I didn't say it was.
Then your response was total bullshit.
>We were specifically told *not* to predict the second coming.
Matthew 16:28, Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30 and Luke 21:32.
Those aren't about the second coming.
Yes they are. Keep coping.
>P1: the bible is the infallible word of God
Please demonstrate that P1 is true.
Why do YEC lie that everyone who disagrees with them is an atheist?
>The data doesn't say anything, data cannot speak. The bible on the other hand..
Allows data to speak
>If the barrenness of the universe contrasts so much with the Earth, then our significance and special status becomes obvious.
So would a geocentric universe with no planets, in fact if humans were literally the entirety of the center of the universe, then our significance would be undeniable.
Yeah because we aren’t god lol, how should we know
Humility?
>Why did God create billions of other planets and stars
It's literally explained on the 1st page of the book.
Space is fake
Evolution is fake
The earth is flat
The earth is 6000 years old at most
Why is moon and other planets then
CGI by NASA
I don't need the answers for any of these questions because my faith in Jesus Christ is a Spiritual relationship with God. The material world is highly insignificant.
Why did God give you a penis and testicles when you clearly identify as a woman?
To fit all the personal Earths in heaven, above the firmament...you havnt heard the Good News?
The sky is just ethereal not physical balls of gas you could theoretically fly into
Because he felt like it? I don’t believe in god (definitely not the Abrahamic one) but if he does exist theres no reason not to think he might just like stars and shit
I am not a Abrahamist but
1. Because God wanted it to be so? How could we possibly know what gives God satisfaction artistically?
2. Because God wanted it to be so? How could we possibly know what gives God satisfaction artistically?
3. Yeah I don't know
I love how anything not explicitly stated in the gospels/bible can just be handwaved by "we don't know gods true purpose maaan!"
religious folks are a weird bunch
secular ideas such as big bang/evolution/globe earth/heliocentrism are both false and unbiblical