Anyone else tried AA before but left because it was one huge cult?
AA Is a cult
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yeah all the [thing] anonymous groups are pretty heavy on religion.
kind of has to be that way, no? these people lack the control/insight/self-reflection/power to unfuck themselves, so they have to look for inspiration elsewhere.
You can't cast out the alcohol demon without God. Those who get sober without God missed a perfect opportunity to find religion
I don't drink and I never believed in christ
Doesn't mean your better than anyone else. You want a cookie nigga?
Never said I was maybe that's your inferiority complex talking negroe
>You can't get sober without god
>If you do you didn't do it right
Which one is it retard? Holy fuck religious people are fucking dumb.
lots of things in life come to 2 conclusions
there has to be more to it than this
Yeah that's the cult mentality.
are demons just thoughts/feelings?
kind of, in this sense
they're parasitic memetic entities, both dependent on your consciousness to exist and free to travel around to find hosts
Lucifer and Bune made me quit. I don't need Yahweh.
It's not a cult because they don't compell you to stay. It's not a community just meetings in church basements that no one forces you to go to. The first step is admitting you are powerless
This. Jails, institutions or death is where a lot of anons end up. It’s sad!
Not me, but I was one employed as a sort of personal assistant to a man, and one of my duties was transporting him around.
One of the things I was charged with transporting him to and from was AA meetings, and to put it bluntly, I wouldn't piss on those naggers if they were on fire.
Of course I raised these concerns with my employer, and he agreed, but it was a court mandated thing, so.
I went for over a year and I'd still be a drug addicted retard if I didn't go through the 12 steps. However, most of the people in there relapse and it's absolutely because they don't use Jesus as their higher power, everyone that tippy toes around Christ, trying everything but what the program was actually founded on (Christianity) ended up worse off than before. I don't go anymore, I go to church and haven't had a craving for drugs or alcohol since. It's been years, I'm so glad I don't go anymore because I just known the rooms are most likely filled with homos and trannies these days. I couldn't suffer through a meeting with some mentally ill, demon infested, axe wound trying to tell otherwise sane people how to do life without drugs.
Hey man great to hear things worked out for you. Ever have a drink to celebrate and prove you're over it?
I've had a couple of drinks since in a social setting, I just can't bring myself to get drunk anymore and it's been quite some time since my last one. You know what they say.
>can't have a head full of AA and a belly full of booze.
AA was founded on the idea of using LSD to treat alcoholism (which it does)
Then the israelites told the FBI to shut the guy up.
So yes it is a cult but without LSD the success rate is like 3% instead of well over 50%.
"Durrr muh acid, broo" - hippie burnout homosexual
That shit just makes you schizo
Replacing it with benzos and then weening off that and taking high doses of CBD is fhe way to go
One of the founding members used it because he couldn't accept christ, his drug use isn't something to be looked up to.
Here is the thing, LSD is far more effective in making a non-religious person religious than any missionary. It isn’t addictive either, only danger to your mental state comes from irresponsibly high and constant use but that’s with any substance in existence, even then a lot of people can use lsd a lot and turn out fine; someone who uses lsd responsibly is no different to someone who drinks coffee
I've used it, I don't disagree with your entire statement, it's just not for everyone and I'll never take it again. I have to be honest with myself and for me it isn't an avenue to God but to each their own. If it worked for you then God bless.
The thing is that lsd can be a very different experience every time, and it changes depending on a lot of factors, but it is very possible to have a very direct and intimate experience with God via lsd (which I have).
God bless you too
You should read Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
Every basic bitch has read it
And anyone who has read it wouldn’t make a retarded thread like this.
I was forced into it when I was still a teen and then weird annoying shit started happening around me yes I don't drink now but I'm unhappy.
No friends or human relationships since.
You need to look into narcanon and Phillip Kindred Dick. They were responsible for all of his mental problems and were supplying people with the drugs that made them go crazy. When you see the connection to that real cult you'll notice chemists who had government funding because of the operation they successfully pulled against the government. It's interesting. I have to leave now and switch to a different IP address by driving to another open WiFi connection.
Was the circle and triangle not a tipoff?
I do NA, and if you look around online you can find anonymous-like support groups that are pagan and other spiritual based. there's even buddhist based ones.
NA has the highest relapse rate. I'm telling you the only successful people in these groups find Jesus Christ, and most of them end up leaving the "program" because of the mentally ill freaks that pray to demons. The crazies eventually take over the groups and start complaining about Christian members. Happens every time. Not to mention those who go just looking to take advantage of vulnerable women with low self esteem.
i never understood these ex addict groups. they forever view themselves as ex addicts that can easily get back into whatever they were using. i belive an ex alcoholic can drink responsibly it all depends on their mindset
I think to beat any sort of addiction you need to replace that negative source of pleasure with one that's less negative or even positive. Exercising, eating healthy, a good relationship, friendship, religion, spending time in nature, creative hobbies etc are good ways to break addiction. Its never easy, but you are master of your own destiny, you decide what you want to do, not the bottle you're holding.
AA doesnt seem culty but I can't say im a fan. Druggies going to these meetings and meeting nothing but a bunch of other druggies and getting chummy with them isnt a great idea. I know people who go to AA and they always become close friends with weird druggies who always end up stealing from them or giving them drugs.
So you think an addict has no hope then?
Differentfag. There is some hope for addicts, but the current groups don't work as well as they should. Probably has something to do with them being built on the idea that the addict can't help themselves so therefore need to rely on a religion to get past it. They should be about taking responsibility and building the strength to deal with it.
Kek every addict I know who does AA or NA goes in and says 'fuck this shit this is a cult' then either decides to at aleast give it a try so they don't die an they end up loving it an staying sober or they don't go to it and end up kwabing themselves with drugs/booze
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