Wanna know how to defeat alcoholism?
I don't agree with "one day at a time" or "easy does it", I agree with recovery being an amazing journey. I agree with inspiration in recovery. To be compelled to a higher level and beholden to the mysteries of life with a sober mind. What do you all think?
you can defeat addiction by not being a weak-willed homosexual
you can take your weak willed face and shove it in your anus nagger
my man, addiction is a symptom not a problem. that's why you can never truly recover and are always tempted. the real problem is that you are a worthless homosexual and the problem can by solved by killing yourself
then i'll go to hell though
what is hell to you? if you have to will, you have no soul. materialism is all you feel, it's why you're an addict
*if you have no will
You never defeat it if you believe it's a problem. You just live with it without letting it be a problem
The journey is different for everyone. The big reason I quit drinking is my fiancée. I know that my binge drinking was awful for me and fucked my life up in a multitude of ways, and I can't drink in good conscience knowing that she'd be getting a worse version of me than she deserves.
She is my reason and our kids will be my reasons too.
Based
2020
Why can't you fuckers just drink and smoke without becoming addicted?
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I'm an alcoholic. Been sober for 2.5 years. Every day after work I think "man, I'd really love a beer", and the thought comes no matter what I do. But for 2.5 years, I've ignored that thought and continue to be sober. I might fail someday, but it wasn't today, and that's how I have to think about it every day.
that sounds stressful, you should have a beer to relax
kys
based, I'm proud of you
Why is it a problem for you guys? If drinking or smoking weed was a problem for me, I wouldn't do it. I think a lot of you "alcoholics" have some serious underlying problems that drive you to drink, then you turn around and say "oh look drinking is my problem." Because, you don't want to face the real problems.
If you're not using alcohol or drugs as a coping mechanism, and they aren't negatively affecting your day to day life, I don't see the problem with having a drink.
some people cannot function in society and are helplessly addicted to something that destroys themselves and everyone around them. I saw it first hand with my father. I know he definitely wouldn't have chosen the path he did, but he was a hockey player and took a bunch of head trauma. Alcohol destroyed him
Well, I own a bar now. I did property development for years, and I drank for some of the time. I was also sober for about 10 years. I didn't seem to matter one way or the other. I also smoke weed a lot.
People drink for a multitude of reasons. And, they blame drinking for a multitude of their problems. Drinking doesn't help problems, but there again it doesn't usually cause them if you're not stupid about it.
But also think of this - You grew up in an environment where your friends smoked pot or drank alcohol all day... or your family did all day... or people around you didn't care at all. There's factors. I just knew everyone that did all the drugs and alcohol but just a weed and beer man in the end. Learned behaviors that need to be unlearned so to speak.
My father never drank or smoked a cigarette around me. I do not see these things as a boogy man, they don't scare, or even really concern me much.
If you are concerned about your drinking, then it may be a problem. Sorry, as a bar owner I feel as though I am on the opposite side of this argument.
Maybe there's underlying problems that fuel alcoholism, sure. But at a certain point, the alcohol is the elephant in the room. It will drive you crazy or kill you. Or you'll kill someone else in a drunken stupor. Man takes a drink. Drink takes the man.
Enter AA. For some strange reason, the only thing that really works with alcoholics of a certain type is talking to and helping other alcolohics. I'm sober 11 years and met most of my closest friends in the rooms. AA got me sober and AS keeps me sober.
No, I do not plan on stopping drinking. I did it for ten years, not even trying. Now, I'm going to enjoy my life, to hell with your t total bullshit. Every morning I get stoned and fuck my wife. At lunch I drink half a bottle of red wine. Smoke some more, then play with my kids when they get out of school, until bed time. Then I go to my bar, drink more red wine, come home, play with my wife some more, drink more wine, smoke more weed, and then shitpost.
Why is this bad? Alcohol and drugs aren't the only problem for people. And, if you solve the other problems, drugs and alcohol become little happy add ons.
>another ((psyop)) against natural human behavior
>if you cant take the heat stay out of the kitchen
>sober bros keep coping because your art sucks ass and no one cares
Coming up to 20 years without drinking piss.
>Make a planned date.
>Drink hard.to satisfy your needs.
>Increase intake.
>Stop cold turkey.
>Remove your drinking mates from your life.
>Make sure you have sugary snacks available.
It is Really a simple equation of Yes/No
Just sounds gay. I'll make plans, like when is the dirt going to come for my build site, when are the foundation guys coming, do we have the right permits? I never sit around worried about how much I have to drink. It's just not a problem on my radar. It seems so inconsequential.
That's.... kinda my plan... but I am making it an amazing journey from The Who!! LOL
AA was the most ashamed I've ever felt. I went to one meeting, hated the ritualistic nature of it, and how much of a loser I was sitting there. I can quit drinking on my own and have proven that to myself, more power to those who need support groups.
Idk I don't see it that way, there's some rich people that go there, there's poor and homeless that go. They all love each other. There's this unity at AA between EVERYONE!
Right, I'm just relaying my own experience. It was a very very small group, I was the youngest there by 30 years and I had to go for some DUI. I'm not going to knock it entirely because it does help people get better and means well, I just hate the religious undertones and like I said, the ritualistic cult-like parroting of certain phrases. some people there were absolutely in worst scenarios than I ever was. I'm just an immature idiot who likes to drink too much beer and doesn't want to give it up.
I think I'm that level honestly. Some woman told me she drank freakin hand sanitizer and mouth wash. Man I drank fuckin vanilla extract and fuckin cookin wine. I kept it classy bitches!!!!
>Wanna know how to defeat alcoholism?
yeah you take lsd just like the guy who created AA. on acid I realized I was never drinking again. 2 years this month
But I can't smoke pot any more either.... shit...
why, would that be a catalyst for total relapse or something? I used to smoke pot daily, used to live to just get high back in college, and now that I'm in my 30s I hate it. I wouldn't want to smoke unless I was gonna play guitar with friends. even then I prefer to get a cool buzz on.
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I think there's levels to it but the first thing is
>stop doing things that lead you to the action you're avoiding
i.e. going to a bar, having alcohol in your home
Then it's realizing you're "self-medicating", you don't have to solve whatever underlying issues are making you drink, often that's impossible, but rationally dissect what you think you're getting from it and what you're not.
>replace it with something else
Maybe not another vice, but another activity that's similar - tea and a book or something.
>finding drive for another hobby or lifestyle
Hard to be drinking every night if you jog every morning
I think the last things that come are the value shift. Once you've replaced it and gotten occupied with a more productive lifestyle, you won't even want it any more.
Moon's drumming on this was fucking phenomenal.