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Doesn't that kind of defeat the whole purpose
don't care, still not listening to vaporwave
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Vaporwave has been smooth jazz for ESLs for like 6 years bro.
A lot of vaporwave IS smooth jazz
THE HARD TRUTH ABOUT VAPOR 95 IS VAPORWAVE FANS DON’T REALLY LIKE VAPOR 95.
>the whole purpose
Being...?
supposedly a satire of consumerism
people say it and it's on wikipedia but I don't know from where the hell they took this
Probably the idea that companies, especially entertainment, endlessly recycle the same shit and sell it back to us, or something like that. Like, if you want a image of the future, imagine an 80s-colored CGI world with distorted versions of old songs on loop forever
that's stupid
Most critiques of capitalism are, to be fair
>look! something that was never meant to be perfect and no one ever said it was... isn't perfect!
>why is no one doing a revolution?
it's stupid because if you ask vaporwave artists what the "point" of vaporwave is I guarantee most of them will not say it's a satire of consumerism
Yeah, that's... what I described...
You alright?
what, no it wasn't
The consumerism aspect is as simple as applying, "and people will buy it." I thought that would've been obvious
huh
reread my post maybe you misread it
Oh...
Well, don't I feel silly
retard
Newfag, you had to have been around to know
vaporwave artists don't wear clothes
it's vaporwave, not vaporware
The "vaporwave" of nowadays is a sad joke, a vapid circlejerk. It is a sign that does not signify anything but itself, as it festers in its own tropes and stereotypes, and becomes commodified and subculturalized, assimilated into the same machine it was trying to break off of. Vaporwave died a long time ago, when it stopped being mysterious and immersive, when its audience started being pandered to.
Vaporwave died and with it died the last movement of honest, true art.
You want to really feel the pain, go look at pictures of the crowd at Electronicon
vaporbros...
>that focusrite
soul
>That MacBook
Sovless
seethe poorfvg
Imagine the smell
But by holding on to it even though it's gone, you're still being true to it and keeping it alive. Just like it's "metal" to worship Satan or it's "punk" to wear denim jackets, it's "vaporwave" to cling to dead aesthetics long after they're culturally relevant.
Man, I never saw it as some sort of high-brow social commentary. It just dredged up vague memories of being a kid dragged around to malls, department stores, doctors offices, and other public spaces where muzac would be played on shitty burnt out speakers in the background.
Same goes for retrowave and outrun, though that was all the 80s action movies on VHS cassette. Both seem to be meant to recapture those sounds and memories but as time passes both genres increasingly seem to be parodying themselves, by artists either distancing themselves from it to 'grow', or were too young to have experienced a world without youtube, much less without internet. Vapor 95 seems more a manifestation of that same detachment endemic to these genres that kicked off around the start of the decade - no memory, just aping a look.
Both genres seem stale, but at the same time, I'm looking for the next thing and it seems like trap music has irreparably turned all modern music into some rap/trap amalgam. Even fucking country music is rapping now. I tried watching those "What are you listening to" compilations and felt like a certain astronaut held at gunpoint on the moon.
The thing is, it wasnt any sort of high-brow social commentary, quite the opposite. What vaporwave did was essentially take the same reality-distorting mechanisms that advertisements and pop culture use to manipulate, and reincorporate them into artistic production. Vaporwave is meant to fulfill the broken promises that media from the 80s 90s and 00s made to us, it is meant to bring to life an imaginary future of pure utopian hedonistic consumerism that was always promised to us by advertisement but never came, a future that is still being promised to us but we now know that it will never come. It wasn't high-brow at all, it was the ultimate escapism, where all the ugly parts of the actual future that became true and that we live in now are not present, and instead there is this almost mystical hyperreal world of pre-postmodern innocence and commercial bliss, where Coca Cola really CAN solve the worlds problems. This is why people describe vaporwave as leaving them with a strange, paradoxical sense of faux nostalgia, a real tangible feeling of nostalgia for something that never happened. And this is also why a big part of the audience for vaporwave are zoomers and relatively young people who were not even alive or consciouss in the time periods that vaporwave takes is aesthetic inspiration from, because this was not a movement of just surface-level revivalist nostalgia like retrowave and outrun, where tropes are blatantly replicated without nuance, but of faux nostalgia, where a whole new thing is created, a completely imaginary, ridiculous future that was never a part of actual reality, but is nonetheless felt as real.
>nostalgia for something that never happened
It's not about nostalgia for things that never happened. It's a feeling of wallowing in the safety of the memory of a stable past.
Vapor just like other retro genres is another sophisticated form of escapism that are so common in the post 2008 world of economic gloom and social decay.
These genres project this screen of faux optimism, that is in stark contrast with the bleak reality we live in. It's a device you can connect yourself to if you want to get in a blissful state, a world of old tech and video games from your childhood. The bliss of living in the virtual space of your own past, your own childhood, in the reversion of your own causality.
ok ok
source?
or are you taking this from your head?
also I hate mcdonalds and coca cola but when did they say that they would save the world? it seems you are trying hard to force a critique on capitalism
look up the wikipedia article on vaporwave
Critical interpretations section
The History section will also shed some light
McDonalds and Coca Cola are just simple examples, what im refering to is the way consumerism implies through advertising that it can solve all your problems, and seems to portray this perfect ideal world in every piece of media or ad, that is of course not real. Just look at the way old comercials from the 80s and 90s are shot, they are always almost ridiculously utopian.
It was always a joke. The OG vaporwave album wasn't even real. It was "onager-onager", and a few anons had just lazily shooped a bird onto a target pattern background so they could tease newfags trying to get into the next big music movement. It was just a variation on the Godspeed you! black emperor "lost album" prank until Floral Shoppe was released. Then some folks retroactively applied the tag to people like james ferraro and the like, and suddenly it was a legitimate movement and we were supposed to believe everybody was consciously pulling from Adorno or Baudrillard as part of some highbrow critique of capitalism and nostalgia. It was none of those things. Journalists and Tumblr kids were just over eager to create a new genre/movement of music after seeing what happened with Witch House.
And yes, it was always a joke, but that does not remove any of its validity. The joke used to be funny. It used to work, because it had something unexpected to say about the reality we live in. Vaporwave undoubtedly has always relied heavily on irony, and through irony it exposed the inherent ridiculousness of consumerist culture. The problem is, it became what it was making fun of, it became part of consumerist culture, and so the joke is not funny anymore, it doesnt work.
Also, of course vaporwave artists originally where not consciously pulling from Baudrillard or any sort of concrete philosophy when they were making vaporwave albums, they were simply making shit to have fun, to have a bit of a respite from dealing with actual reality. But they did inadvertently prove Baudrillard true, in that they exposed the nature of the consumerist hyperreality.
Ferraro and OPN where nerds, the only ones originally preocupied with this philosophical media analysis, but while they laid the conceptual groundwork for vaporwave to come, the movement itself did not come from them, but from the thousands of people that connected with the genre because it seemed cool and prolonged its narrative
> it was always a joke, but that does not remove any of its validity
It kinda does. It was called vaporwave because it literally didn't exist. The joke was that it was cancelled before released or otherwise lost to time, and thus existed only as an idea in a manner similar to "vaporWARE". Making it real ruined the joke, you dumb normalfag, because it was a joke made at the expense of the kind of dipshits that took witch house seriously. The whole point was "don't fucking talk about /b/ (/mu/) and stop trying to make every meme from LULZ into a real life phenomenon.". We hated fags like you for the same reason we hated le ebin meme face shirts people were putting out in the 2010's.
No, you dont get the joke you dumb fuck. Yes, making it real ruined the joke, that is precisely what im saying. But the joke was not that it was making fun of witch house if you think that was what people where doing when creating vaporwave you are completely retarded, no one ever gave a fuck about witch house which is why it was DOA. Vaporwave did not originate nor was it ever widespread through LULZ. LULZ did not coin the term vaporwave, Will Burnett from Internet Club coined the term. LULZ had very little influence on the spread of vaporwave. Vaporwave was mostly spread and evolved through tumblr and bandcamp. This website is pathetic, it has never done anything other than get high off their own farts and create inhouse memes that once in a while leak into the mainstream. You are probably one of those insufferable homosexuals who thinks LULZ got trump elected
Nah bro, it was Onager. I was there for the first thread. had nothing going on during the days of microgenres and was lurking/shitposting a bunch. We called it vaporwave for the reasons outlined in the previous post. I helped spread the original image around. He probably saw the term on this board, forgot, and mistakenly thought he came up with it himself. Sorry you base your whole identity over normalfags essentially talking about /b/ IRL.
of course dude, I forgot it was you who invented vaporwave. How could I be so stupid. Jesus man, you are actually delusional, its sad. You really have created this little narrative where you think you matter in any way and had anything to do with anything. Its ok dude, keep coping with the fact that youve never created anything worth while, keep coming to this website the same you have been doing for over a decade, dont change anything in your life at all, you are clearly a sane, well balanced individual living your best life
I didn't invent anything except new ways to make your mom cum. but I did participate in what I thought was an inconsequential internet prank that normalfags turned into le ebin serious art and music movement.
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>as it becomes commodified
This must be why they always sell their shit in limited runs to get scalped endlessly. Really sticking it to the man. Also this must be why they sell the music on bandcamp when it's probably not even legal. Epic commentary on consumerism.
7deep9me
Melodramatic homosexual. Imagine actually believing this.
>the last movement of honest, true art
Lmfao you’re a fucking stupid kid. You don’t know what art is.
Maybe, but that’s fine. I don’t go looking for 2022 new wave releases either. Vaporwave had its moment and is mostly evocative of dead times anyway. So it suits it to be washed away.
That sounds like the most vaporwave thing ever, I can't wait for vaporwave sampling vaporwave as it turns into who knows what abomination
It's coming full circle
Absolutely wretched.
HOLY SHIT IS THAT PASTEL SUNSET AND PALM TREES AND ASIAN LANGUAGE
>POV: You just went to heaven for incel mystery meat Americans
by the time the art started looking like this it was already dead and being gnawed on by redditnaggers
why wouldnt they have actual vaporwave fashion, or at the very least 80s? from what im seeing so far its just reddit tier synthwave garbage and generic pastel anime
Made this one for you. Luis Vuitton and Gucci have the shittiest tiktok pages. irl the sets are nice and exquisite but that's about it. The are all slowly getting into technology basically. It'll be the new textiles.
Macs 4:20
I sought the LORD, and he answered me with VAPORWAVE. Those who listen are radiant, and their faces shall never be ashamed.
Oh, listen and see that VAPORWAVE is good! Blessed is the man who takes refuge in VAPORWAVE!
Cringe.
Is there another place where I can get cloth like this? I don't like most of their designs.
Walmart
don't care. Still wearin' it.
etsy
this shirt came from etsy
Love it, do you have links?
https://www.etsy.com/listing/249057280/blue-screen-of-death-shirt
https://vapor95.com/collections/hoodies/products/ghoulboy-hoodie-1
>42 quid for the t shirt
Fuck me
Oneohtrix 6:6
Who is it that overcomes the world?
Only the one who believes that God is VAPORWAVE and VAPORWAVE is God.
It's tacky as fuck. The way to channel an aesthetic is to look at its influences (for vaporwave it's postmodern design). Dress how people in a vaporwave music video would dress, don't wear a shirt with that dumb ass neon grid with the sunset and japanese lettering on the arms
The thing about vapor95 is how scummy it is of a company. The thing is, most of their designs are cool. I have a couple of their products, they look fine, but by god they are so fucking expensive. Most shirts are around 40 dollars, sweatshirts about $60-$80, and their "jackets" over 100. I bought one of their bomber jackets, and the thing was it wasnt even a jacket, it was basically a sweatshirt made to look like a jacket, what a fucking joke. Another thing is, they paid christtt to do a set for a promotional show, and they paid him in instore credit, which he said was enough to buy some pins and stickers LOL
>they paid christtt to do a set for a promotional show, and they paid him in instore credit
I had no idea about this. That sucks, I fucking love Christtt
same, one of the best of the old guard. He talked about the thing with V95 on an episode of funnynet, i think the vod might be on YT
They're overpriced as SHIT too
Aesthetics 4:21
I am the vapor; you are the wave. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
sad
Vaporwave was never a critique of capitalism, that's just something people said searching for meaning.
I think that Vaporwave as a genre was just the product of people liking spaced out TV nostalgia. If you were going to criticize it, then why would you replicate it so much.
Also I bought one of their shirts, they took months too long and when I complained and wanted a refund they didn't respond to my email and instead forced me to take the product. It's a cool design so I wear it, but if you buy from these people just know they are unprofessional.
vaporwave was never a critique of capitalism, it was a satire of consumerism
I actually bought a few things from this site. Super expensive and takes FOREVER to ship. No idea why they're made-to-order. It's not some super high quality one-of-a-kind shit.
as if that wasnt bad enough they have an actual store in la
How much would it take to pay someone to vandalize? These homosexuals are clearly just in it to milk money off it with *premium* "novelty" apparel.
It's LA, someone would probably do it for a cigarette
>George Clanton Slide in the window because they know its the only good album to come from the vapor scene
Ah yes...what the best albums do; sit unsold in the window.
that album is 100% chillwave, what are you talking about
clanton made butt-vapor before pivoting to chillwave and actually making money
Blank 7:11
For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious sound of VAPORWAVE, a lamb without blemish or defect.
They had some good anime clothing when I used to shop there but there new designs have been nothing but meme shit recently and it pisses me off.
They used to have some decent stuff but now I just get my stuff elsewhere. Doesn't help that their stuff takes can take up to 4 months to get to you either.
Vapor 95 sort of came and went. Don't know what we're still talking about. Yes,you're right that it is passe now lol.
>consumerist music inspires consumerist fashion
what's so surprising about this, OP?
Made this just for this thread. I'll add Jesus in future videos, already have somewhat
Macross 6:9
Whoever has Vaporwave has life; whoever does not have Vaporwave does not have life.
It’s all polyester wish.com shit
90% of vaporwave fans don't even understand what it's about. they just take anything that looks or sounds vaguely 80's, slap some turquoise and purple on it and call it vaporwave
It seems to be in the process of being a vague genre
r*dditors killed the genre
It completes the dialectic.
Wait what was the drama with witch house? I'm completely disconnected from electronic scenes.
People arguing over vaporwave
This is only the beginning, isn't it?
of course, everyone who was in their 20s in 2009-2012 is now in their mid 30s and will argue endlessly about the era with nostalgia goggles on
Vaporwave is the greatest musical genre in existence.
Eccos 9:5
He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Until he allowed VAPORWAVE into his life and became beloved and celebrated.
here's your vaporwave clothes. get back to work
There is no denying it. The impact of Vaporwave cannot be understated. It is one of the most important movements of the 2010s. The cult like obsession still surrounding it now is entirely justified. 10 years later it still sounds ahead of it’s time.
The influence of vaporwave continues to be felt throughout the world. It’s insane how this niche genre has blown up to directly inform the mainstream. Vaporwave is the future and the future is vaporwave.
True
It just keeps becoming a symbol of a symbol of a symbol and so on.