>6 figures in debt after ffs and vfs. >still look like a man and people think im just a he/him crossdresser

>6 figures in debt after ffs and vfs
>still look like a man and people think im just a he/him crossdresser
>working 16 hours a day on a couple hours of sleep a day to pay it off and still struggling
>have to do this for 3 more years for nothing
it was over before it began

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can you help me figure out how to get ffs so maybe it wont be over for me? How did you get a loan and approval? Do you have to have insurance to get it?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can't say all that and not post a selfie for people to judge for themselves. You're likely yet another tranny with low self esteem and ridiculously high standards for yourself as what passes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      agreed, post selfie or we assume you’re bdd. also, vfs isn’t an easy out from voice training, your voice, mannerisms, fashion choice, etc might still be clocking you. what aren’t you telling us?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >vfs
    that's for people addicted to spending money on high risk shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cope
      VFS is great

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        vfs does nothing that you cant just do with voice training
        cope

        • 2 months ago
          androgyne

          VFS makes it so your voice is female by default. Your coughing, laughing, etc., will always sound female. If someone has a severe voice dysphoria, VFS is the only way.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >VFS makes it so your voice is female by default. Your coughing, laughing, etc., will always sound female.
            just like i said, nothing that cant be done with voice training

            Other than altering your vocal cords so that your natural vocal range is higher than it was, you mean

            >Other than altering your vocal cords so that your natural vocal range is higher than it was, you mean
            it doesnt extend the possible range any higher, it just cuts off the lower range so you are physically unable to use the man voice that you were too lazy to train to not use

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Anon it's not even that expensive you don't have to cope like this

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >it doesnt extend the possible range any higher, it just cuts off the lower range
              is this true?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            this really isn’t true, all it does is raise pitch by shortening the vocal chords. there are many other components that distinguish male from female voices. every vfs surgeon will tell you you have to voice train along with the surgery, but those who see it as a one-stop fix-all like you and op will be too lazy to actually follow through.

            • 2 months ago
              androgyne

              What you mention is speech pattern, not the voice, though, no? VFS works without voice training for those who already spoke like gay flamers. OP also never said in OP she didn't voice train.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it’s not just speech pattern and mannerisms, it’s resonance, articulation, gendered norms of language use. starting off with a gay male voice helps but it isn’t everything.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Other than altering your vocal cords so that your natural vocal range is higher than it was, you mean

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol Mx. Flow had VFS and they still sound like a twangy midwestern hick boy

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    At least your bank allowed you to get in debt, here I don’t even get that possibility
    t. Europoor

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you have no idea how good you have it

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably because you don't eat properly and are skele modding

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you just are imagining it haha
    >imagining everyone immediately calling me sir
    ????

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      okay but we can’t know why they do that without more info. transitioning successfully is about more than just getting the right surgeries.
      >t. passoid with no ffs or vfs

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    <3 u, umi

  8. 2 months ago
    androgyne

    >only 3 more years
    I wish it was me.
    >10 years of loan and mom stealing money since it's in her name

  9. 2 months ago
    Radiochan

    have you considered just voice training, training your body language, getting better clothes and maybe implants instead?
    because it seems like you just dumped a bunch of money on shit thinking it'd do stuff

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >decides to get into 6 figure debt before ever bothering to learn makeup, train his voice or learn to dress to hide clocky body features
    >shocked VFS doesn't give magically give him cisfem-socialized mannerisms
    it has indeed been over since the very start, OP

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    hahahaha moron

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was under the impression there are a lot of options for debtors besides just paying it all off, talk to a lawyer because what happened to you sounds extremely predatory, give these fuckers as little as possible, and take as much as possible. No matter how dirty you have to fight, they deserve worse than the dirtiest you're capable of doing them.

    Also you probably look like shit from only sleeping a few hours a day and might be a large part of why you can't pass. You also sound like you aren't thinking clearly.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >takes out loans to buy something
      >omg they're predatory and stealing from you, they're so evil!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The enclosure of the commons, financialization, and the banking system and the medical system are predatory and interconnected, loans aren't taken in an ideal vaccum where your moral pontification about the dirty irresponsible plebes are the be all end all of the discussion.
        You type like a tryhard redditor who only knows this forum's culture from viral greentext stories, also.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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