>5th biggest music market in the world
>we don't know any of it
why? and don't say it's the language cause we know music from japan, germany, italy, brazil, latinamerica, even some african music
yet what do we know from this place? is there LULZ approved chinese music?
Good question. Where are all the cool chinese indie bands?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_music_in_China. They basically wiped out millennia of culture.
Being "re-educated"
Cope more KMTard
The biggest reason China doesn't have many big scenes is because most people could only afford stuff like instruments recently, and many across the country still can't. Combine that with isolationism in the Mao era and you get a massive country with a fledgling music scene at best. The first big western band to go to China in the 80's was fucking Wham! ffs. Excellent underground scene though.
I feel like Omnipotent Youth Society is the most LULZ sounding band in China (far more enjoyable if you speak Chinese because they have some top tier lyricism). Gong Gong Gong 工工工 used to be on the Beijing scene pre-covid but they're much more experimental.
t. 2 years and counting in the 'guo
They didn't wipe out the traditional folk music,that's still verymuch around.
The qing manchu already wiped out millennia of chinese culture. Manchurian culture wasnt chinese and they killed anyone who didnt adopt their culture and they spent 300 years turning china into a weak backwards shithole
i only know of one and they’re called carsick cars
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7D3v2cLwlzzrC0HzU421Ny?si=q9HRH6gwSgGssnPDu18n2Q
I'm adding more as I find them, chinese music seems dominated by corporation made pop and tv/film music sadly
I was gonna ask what music they're actually buying. Do they listen to western music?
Taylor Swift is very popular in China. She is the best selling western artist in China of recent years.
>dominated by corporation
that's literally everywhere in the world
i've got this black metal band. that's about it though
that's pretty cool
even if you leave aside politicization and censorship which infects or sterilizes a lot of it, the chinese music market is just as insular as the japanese one without a base of weaboos accessing it and spreading it outside its home market
the market is so big there is no real need to even try with international audiences (and to the extent taiwanese artists push they're pushing for the mainland/overseas chinese markets)
there is probably a lot of unapproved cheeneese moozic thats good, tehy only approve unchallenging garbage, and bury anything of merit
China isn't nearly as westernized as those other countries you mentioned. This goes both ways, meaning they aren't as exposed to western culture and thus don't produce music as heavily influenced by that sphere, and their market isn't really exportable to the western hemisphere. There's some good metal, shoegaze, indie and electronic coming out of China though. Chinese diaspora also produces some neat stuff occasionally. I like Lexie Liu, Organ Tapes and Ciel a lot. Also Pan Daijing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfjm7S7gbR4
There really isn't a conspiracy here.
China is very insular because of the great firewall. Generally very little information about the country slips out, not just when it comes to music. A huge event can take place in China and maybe some Western media reports on it months later.
The measure of how big the music market is, doesn't prove anything in regards to quality.
Chinese music is generally derivative and what is allowed to be accessible is deemed safe. There's simply not much interesting going on that you couldn't just find from the source in other countries.
https://dehuitaworship.bandcamp.com/album/sick
this is the only album I know from china lol
>cause we know music from japan, germany
Ok, those are like the two biggest countries outside of the US and UK. What about like Russia, Turkey, the Middle East. When was the last time a major release came from there? Its not just China that gets ignored
Russia is known for its doomer music though, Turk music just sounds a lot alike Arabic music to most westerners.
Speak for yourself. True patricians know this Chinese music legend.
China doesn't have a music industry. The biggest popstar in China is a Taiwanese singer who died in the 90s. The rest are Hong Kong movie stars who became singers. Jackie Chan is considered a major Chinese pop star, as are Andy Lau and Tony Leung. Chinese people listen to cantopop, kpop, western music, even other Asian music. Chinese musicians who want to make it move to LA. A lot of Asian music is produced in the States, actually.
because like everything else made in china the music from there is shit. quantity =/= quality
I heard some Chinese rap while wandering through Chinatown and was surprised at how well it worked
Same reason an ant nest doesn't make music
try this https://youtu.be/mxKptoUNhrg?si=DZ2JbGkHWImBw4ry
If this is the 5th biggest market in the world does that mean western music will be altered so that it can be also sold to China? Will they stop making western pop songs with lyrics or themes that are banned in China?
Taylor is already huge there.
i was gonna say fei yu ching but he's taiwanese
then i was gonna say fong fei fei but she's taiwanese too
i got nothin
China's social policy is no fun allowed.
Faye Wong has a great discography of Mando and Cantopop. And yeah most of the good stuff comes from Taiwan
this is one of the ones i found fucking around on apple music, as described in my last post
LMF were solid. Good rap group with live instruments.
i've heard some of it fucking around on apple music but there's so much i dont really know where to start or what to look for
wow its like orwellian nightmares are really bad at incentivizing creativity
I've listened to a chinese black metal demo that was pretty good
saw carsick cars new years show TXHuaihai Shanghai 2021
then i got locked in my apartment for three months by the police
I like it.
They have pretty cool electronic scene