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>26 years since it first aired and nothing has topped it. how? why?

>26 years since it first aired and nothing has topped it
how? why?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nothing has topped it
    A certain live action show on netflix begs to differ

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      0/10, poor effort

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only if you mean "topped" in the sense of "fucked in the ass".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Show is only good for more Seatbelts tracks which they have yet to fully officially release.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >peaked in the first episode
    >mission of the week shit
    The Jupiter Jazz episodes were kino but I had to stop a few episodes after that. Just got too repetitive.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh plot
      mission of the week is the best. comfykino

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >too repetitive
      that's literally the first three episodes tops. it starts off as mission of the week to show what Spike+Jet's lives are like, then Faye shows up and chaos ensues.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >since it first aired
      Well that's your mistake right there. You should have started earlier than 1997. In 1995 you would have come across the far better Neon Genesis Evangelion.

      Its ok, though definitely overrated. Its a solid show that doesn’t do anything poorly, but it doesn't do anything amazing either.

      Yes, it is overrated. There are some stand-out episodes, but plenty do very little. It's basically a show comprised entirely of filler, with sprinkles of plot and main character development here and there. Some episodes are totally pointless - when was the last time you saw anyone gushing about the 400 year old kid or whatever?
      The soundtrack is GOTYAY though, haven't seen a soundtrack from anything else that is arguably close. Not Evangelion, not Lord of the Rings, nothing.

      Love the episode with teddy bomber and cowboy andy

      Definitely one of the best, though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cruel angels thesis alone mogs all of bebops soundtracks put together

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cruel Angels Thesis is a revolutionary OP but is it better than Rush, Tank, Mushroom Hunting, Cat Blues, and Bad Dog No Biscuits? No it's nowhere close.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Slayers NEXT op (Give a Reason) is literally the best anime opening there is. Get the fuck out with your shitty meme songs.
            Its a shame 99% of LULZ has never even seen or heard of Slayers.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This has to be bait. It is literally a generic poppy dogshit anime op. This is an unironic version of Princess Kenny from South Park. You are telling me this is better than arguably the best Jazz and Blues soundtrack in anime. Fuck outta here with your stupid little niche anime op.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes, yes it is

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Neon Genesis is mopey pretentious drivel. Bebop has broken, traumatized characters too but they're actually interesting and fun to watch.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eva and Bebop are both shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Yes, it is overrated.
        No, it's underrated in case because reading these threads makes me realize how much of this show people miss.
        There is literally no CB pointless episode, for one.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What does Heavy Metal Queen accomplish?

          >Have you seen Tenshi no Tamago, for example?
          Yes. Oshii is trash. It's basically another discount Tarkovsky flick from him but with student film sensibilities as per usual of anime directors. It's extremely on the nose. Okay aesthetics.

          NTA, but "on the nose"? Compared to something like Stalker, where he might as well be staring into the audience's eyes and giving us a 20 minute soliloquy. It isn't even really subtextual, they voice their "philosophic" concerns directly to one another.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What does Heavy Metal Queen accomplish?
            You have no further insights on Spike's character from HMQ, from one? How he reacts to the bullied waitress, the choice he makes at the end when he "wins" the bet, no insight about his attitude toward death and risk with the nitro question?
            You don't need that explained, or perfectly integrated in a larger arc to know more about him. That episode teaches you about spike as much as Ballad does.
            Regardless of the glimpses about the universe (constant works, the micro-world of the truckers).
            VT is also someone with a past that on a rewatch strongly contrasts with the crew because she more or less moved on from it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              HMQ also contributes to overall themes. Other than memory, time, past etc there is also an general sense of un-accomplishment, so to speak.
              Well in HMQ once again the bounty is lost. And it keeps happening.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >bullied waitress
              He's incredibly hung over, so it's hard to read into his personality from that.
              >wins the bet
              He'd always been somewhat care-free and more human-oriented than the "typical" bounty hunter. This is evident from the first episodes.
              >death and risk
              He didn't really have an option here, it was their best chance at escape. He takes unnecessary risks ambivalently in other episodes, even earlier on.
              >glimpses about the universe
              Always good, but not enough reason to call an episode worthwhile.
              >more or less moved on
              Only from what we can tell. She still seems to resent bounty hunters quite a bit. On the surface, the Bebop crew seem to have moved on from their pasts as well; it takes a lot of the show to look more deeply into that.

              HMQ also contributes to overall themes. Other than memory, time, past etc there is also an general sense of un-accomplishment, so to speak.
              Well in HMQ once again the bounty is lost. And it keeps happening.

              >un-accomplishment
              >bounty is lost
              Yes, but again, those do happen in pretty much every episode. So why have an episode that only serves to reiterate points already made plenty of times elsewhere?

              It's not that I hate the episode. It's OK and fits into the larger ideas. But, to me, it doesn't really add anything new or add new dimensionality to characters or existing themes. Maybe I should phrase it like this - if you were to watch the show and accidentally skip Heavy Metal Queen, would you even realize it? Would the show be any worse for it? There's no lasting change from the events having happened, IIRC they aren't referenced later on in any significant way, the interactions and personalities of the main crew aren't any different, etc. Even stand-alone, it doesn't have the best music, it isn't especially funny, the events aren't particularly tense or interesting, etc. I realize it's subjective, but I don't see enough value in it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But, to me, it doesn't really add anything
                you are deaf to subtle writing and episodical shows

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't mind episodic shows at all. But making a show episodic isn't a magic spell that means all episodes inherently have tons of importance and can't be criticized.
                The other anon had some very valid observations about that episode, and I responded with why the episode still came across as redundant to me. So what is the subtlety there that I'm missing? That gives this episode such value? Since you aren't deaf, I'm looking forward to hearing all these great details you're sitting on.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You gave absolutely inane answers. Also see what this anon wrote

                >There's no lasting change from the events having happened
                God, I hate zoomers

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How are they inane? Spike acts the same as he did in earlier episodes. I don't believe you learn anything new about him here, or see any nuance in his behavior that starts here. You aren't making points at all, which is even worse than inane.
                Which amuses me further, because the other anon didn't even have a point. There ARE no lasting changes from that episode. You believe that you're somehow better able to follow subtle writing than me, and yet both of you lack the critical reading skills to understand my post. Did I say that the episode needed to have lasting changes to give it value? No, you're morons, so you just saw that one phrase and started panicking about your zoomer bogeymen. I'll explain it for you, only because I pity you and I am a nice guy. I gave "lasting change" as an example (one of six) of something an episode could have to give it value within the broader context of the show. It doesn't mean an episode needs it. But it is one route to value. I hope now you've learned something about won't be deaf to explicitly-written points, or else you're going to have a hard time interacting with people on a website that heavily depends upon written communication.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not even reading that. You are unable to grasp it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I hope now you've learned something
                Anon you write a lot to don't say anything, and you didn't really address much here.

                >bullied waitress
                He's incredibly hung over, so it's hard to read into his personality from that.
                >wins the bet
                He'd always been somewhat care-free and more human-oriented than the "typical" bounty hunter. This is evident from the first episodes.
                >death and risk
                He didn't really have an option here, it was their best chance at escape. He takes unnecessary risks ambivalently in other episodes, even earlier on.
                >glimpses about the universe
                Always good, but not enough reason to call an episode worthwhile.
                >more or less moved on
                Only from what we can tell. She still seems to resent bounty hunters quite a bit. On the surface, the Bebop crew seem to have moved on from their pasts as well; it takes a lot of the show to look more deeply into that.
                [...]
                >un-accomplishment
                >bounty is lost
                Yes, but again, those do happen in pretty much every episode. So why have an episode that only serves to reiterate points already made plenty of times elsewhere?

                It's not that I hate the episode. It's OK and fits into the larger ideas. But, to me, it doesn't really add anything new or add new dimensionality to characters or existing themes. Maybe I should phrase it like this - if you were to watch the show and accidentally skip Heavy Metal Queen, would you even realize it? Would the show be any worse for it? There's no lasting change from the events having happened, IIRC they aren't referenced later on in any significant way, the interactions and personalities of the main crew aren't any different, etc. Even stand-alone, it doesn't have the best music, it isn't especially funny, the events aren't particularly tense or interesting, etc. I realize it's subjective, but I don't see enough value in it.

                You have just shown you have a lot of stuff that flies over your head.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >over your head
                Like what? What's so deep about the waitress situation? Hell, pick any of those points and expand on it, your choice.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, because you would go back pretending to not understand or just dismissing any observation.
                Discussing with you is pointless, there are way more interesting anons in the thread.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There's no lasting change from the events having happened
                God, I hate zoomers

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Peaked in the first episode
      I beg to differ, Speak like a Child is leagues better
      In fact I say a lot of the character-backstory focused episodes in the later half of the show shine significantly brighter than the weekly bounty stuff you get in the beginning

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Love the episode with teddy bomber and cowboy andy

        >peaked in the first episode
        >mission of the week shit
        The Jupiter Jazz episodes were kino but I had to stop a few episodes after that. Just got too repetitive.

        I'm absolutely amazed no one here has mentioned Mushroom Samba. Most fun episode of the show and has one of the best scores in the entire soundtrack.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Love the episode with teddy bomber and cowboy andy

          yeah cowboy funk has to be one of the best episodes they nailed the "protagonist having to deal with someone who is exactly like him" trope. and without it how could we have ever gotten

          >Evangelion
          >babby's first 2deep5me anime
          even more overrated than cowboy bebop lmao

          when my friends told me about how NGE deconstructs entertainment this is what i pictured

          instead i got mecha mecha mecha and more mecha

          It took me three or four attempts to finally push through it. I still don't really care for it, but it does some things well. I think people mostly watch it for the animation and the atmosphere; it has a tone not usually found in cartoons or anime. I'm glad I pushed through it just to get it off my list (it's a short show), and some of the better episodes were toward the end anyway. I really hate Spike's stories though, I was totally uninterested in the machinations of "Mr. Cruelty" and his edgy weaboo mafia shenanigans.
          One thing I'll mention is that I tried watching it at first in English because that's how my friends had seen it, and because it's commonly referred to as the best English dub ever / the only dub that surpasses the native voices, but I was getting pretty filtered until I switched to the sub. The main characters are OK in English, but the side characters' goofy ass accents and stuff were really off-putting to me. It's a big problem in a show where side characters make up at least 50% of the screentime.
          [...]
          It is an all-time great to be sure, but Bebop's soundtrack has incredible range. Vocal tracks, instrumentals, jazz, rock, sad sax solos, wistful piano. For being made by one small group of people, their output is insane. Almost every episode has its own soundtrack just for itself.
          On the other hand, the emotional impact of Evangelion's soundtrack is unsurpassed to me. So many tracks choke me up or leave me almost overwhelmed, whereas Bebop just has "sweet tunes, bro". So, technically, I appreciate Bebop's OST but to me personally, I do prefer Evangelion's.
          [...]
          That's a good OP track, but I don't think it's on CAT's level. For a while Slayers was well known because Lina Inverse is in DotA (more /v/ than LULZ though), but I never heard anyone really promote or talk about the show. Also, CAT is not a meme song, it's the third most-popular karaoke song in Japan for the last ~24 years.

          >It took me three or four attempts to finally push through it.
          it's an extraordinarily accessible series that lasts 26 episodes... you kids are weak. inuyasha would break you down

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            south park creators are eva-bros

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not really. That single scene had characters from all the popular anime that westerners have heard of.
              Hell in that picture you have Mamoru from Sailor Moon standing next to Misato.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For me, it's Black Dog.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Absolutely the most heartfelt episode in a single character focus format in the show along with Speak Like A Child and Hard Luck Woman

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Black Dog is excellent. I was hate watching netflix bebop and had to hard drop it after they stole the Black Dog storyline and COMPLETELY RUINED IT.

            They have zero understanding. I was completely baffled. They stole the 80% of the plot and then invalidated that with the last 20% they tacked on. Horrible. I couldn't even hate watch after that point. They literally remake things just to destroy them. I hate them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For me, it's Black Dog.

          >mushroom samba
          >bunch of racist stereotype shit
          >black dog
          >actual based cool black character

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why do you think it is the most fun to watch?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I just remember Faye getting diarrhea

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Too many n-words

          [...]
          >mushroom samba
          >bunch of racist stereotype shit
          >black dog
          >actual based cool black character

          It was based on and payed homage to blackploitation movies you soiboy. There is even a shaft homage n-word there. Pure 70's era kino, back when you could have fun with stereotypes and not forced to use some cringe ass woketard caricatures.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There is even a shaft homage n-word there.
            There is also a Pam Grier obvious (OO) homage.
            But we are wasting our time with Zoomers that think know-it-all, and pathological contrarians.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >get that elven loincloth out yo bussy playa

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      toys in the attic is unironically the best episode

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >peaked in the first episode
        >mission of the week shit
        The Jupiter Jazz episodes were kino but I had to stop a few episodes after that. Just got too repetitive.

        even the postepisode was kino

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      of the week shit
      genuine retard AND zoomer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jupiter Jazz and The Real Folk Blues are pure unadulterated kino, but I always loved Ganymede Elegy for the Elm music and Wild Horses just because it has the classic “whatever happens, happens” scene.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >disregarding Faye’s entire arc
      >didn’t like the last two episodes
      pleb

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mission of the week shit
      >implying that's a bad thing
      positively filtered

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based somedays-somenightsbro.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    spyXfamily beats bebop on a weekly basis

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pedophile show

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do I need to call shadowposter? Because I WILL call him over here.
      Stop being reddit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hes dead. died of being wrong so much

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /a/ Pedophiles is a different board m8

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bebop is mediocre but redditxfamily really isn't any better.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whatever

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Samurai Champloo is boring because it's about hyper-competent fighters that have no chance of losing most of the fights they get into. Yawn.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        idiot

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rurouni kenshin was better.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got banned from /a/ for saying "tranny" and "n-word"
    Btw, garbage anime.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah they seem to have gone to the dark side

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its ok, though definitely overrated. Its a solid show that doesn’t do anything poorly, but it doesn't do anything amazing either.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you have shit taste lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Name one (1) thing it does uniquely well.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >muh jazz aesthetic

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >muh jazz aesthetic

          Cowboy Bebop is not a classic to anyone but Toonami homosexuals.
          And the best anime ever made has already been posted itt.
          Its Slayers

          It's one of the only anime shows that doesn't have power levels, giant robots or other adolescent homosexualry and it's also not ten episodes of story padded out to a hundred plus

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Except Cowboy Bebop is actually adolescent homosexualry.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, not nearly enough people screaming and shooting orbs of light at each other, I agree. Bebop is fucking Blade Runner compared to the kind of shit you consume

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                n-word the only show I watch is Detective Conan. Which is miles better than your shitty "muh jazz" cartoon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes I can tell it's great because I've never even heard of it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >never heard of Detective Conan
                I think you'll recognize it if you google it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I just googled it and no I'm not familiar but it certainly looks like it was made for children

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now I know your b8ing.
                Detective Conan was on adult swim for many a year.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                was it really?
                I remember some show on AS called Cased Closed with that kid in it though

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >knows about Bebop but not Conan
                You're taking the piss, right?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Quite the opposite, you appreciate it more when you get older, and perhaps catch more subtext.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I said to name one (1) thing it does uniquely well, you’re just naming things it doesn’t do.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's because I'm not particularly interested in answering your question. But if I must, the way each episode is represented by a different musical genre is quite unique and effective. On that same note, rarely if ever have I seen a show manage such dramatic tonal swings and still feel like the same show. It also knew when to end, didn't overstay its welcome, etc. which is extremely rare and unique by anime standards.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's because I'm not particularly interested in answering your question.
                So why did you answer it in the first place?
                >the way each episode is represented by a different musical genre is quite unique and effective.
                Boring
                >On that same note, rarely if ever have I seen a show manage such dramatic tonal swings and still feel like the same show.
                Bebop isn't good at this at all, the characters act like bipolar retards that go back and forth from goofy anime characters on wacky adventures to le damaged people with tragic backstories at the drop of a hat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So why did you answer it in the first place?
                Because
                >Boring
                Filtered
                >Bebop isn't good at this at all, the characters act like bipolar retards that go back and forth from goofy anime characters on wacky adventures to le damaged people with tragic backstories at the drop of a hat.
                Almost like a person with a tragic backstory doesn't have to be some mopey emo homosexual who's just 100% depressed like Shinji and can actually have, you know, moods and a personality
                >doesn't even address my last point because he knows I'm right
                kek

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Almost like a person with a tragic backstory doesn't have to be some mopey emo homosexual who's just 100% depressed like Shinji and can actually have, you know, moods and a personality
                What is it with bebopfags and bringing up eva for no reason? I swear you fags are so self conscious.
                't even address my last point because he knows I'm right
                You mean the part where you said
                >didn't overstay its welcome
                because thats just naming the things it doesn't do. I didn't feel like it was worth it to say the thing I already said again.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What is it with bebopfags and bringing up eva for no reason? I swear you fags are so self conscious.
                I just assumed you liked Eva since you're so obviously a homosexual
                >because thats just naming the things it doesn't do
                A show that doesn't do bad things is good, you nut.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I thought you were my boogyman because you hurt my feelings
                ok
                >A show that doesn't do bad things is good, you nut.
                Obviously not, there are a ton of shows that are just middle of the road inoffensive pieces of media that don't do anything bad or good.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I thought you were my boogyman because you hurt my feelings
                Who are you quoting?
                >Obviously not, there are a ton of shows that are just middle of the road inoffensive pieces of media that don't do anything bad or good.
                Now I've heard of mental gymnastics but this is ridiculous

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it's also not ten episodes of story padded out to a hundred plus

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Correct.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It came to a conclusion without shitting the bed.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I said to name one (1) thing it does uniquely well, you just named something it didn't have.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, because by process of elimination we can conclude that by not having a bad ending, it therefore had a good ending. Are you being deliberately retarded or is it just a reflex?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes, because by process of elimination we can conclude that by not having a bad ending, it therefore had a good ending.
                Are you retarded? Have you really never seen a mediocre ending?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mediocre is a form of bad, anon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you change what words mean, then sure.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or if you understand what they mean and how they're used in the first place. Mediocre is a derogatory term reserved for disappointing and underwhelming things.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >not very good
                Oh look, exactly the thing I said.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >of only moderate quality

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if mediocre was bad then you'd just call it bad, not mediocre. mediocrity is synonymous with average, not good nor bad.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mediocrity is an undesirable state. Learn how synonyms work.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can see that

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anime is fucking terrible
    this shit is just a juvenile mishmash of superior films

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay name 3 of these superior films?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You have never watched Cowboy Bebop.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, its shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      antianimefags are obnoxious and add nothing to any conversation

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      most anime is terrible just like most western TV is.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Love the episode with teddy bomber and cowboy andy

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nothing has topped it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Pic related, nothing tops cowboy bebop

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        filtered

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GITS: Stand Alone Complex (S1) is one of the most well executed in terms of plot.
    Kaiji has better tension.
    Death Note has better intrigue.
    In terms of comfy kino feel Bebop probably can't be beat though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >kaijikino
      Based.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bebop is shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're shit.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its shit. The only people who like it saw it on Toonami when they were babies. Little baby thought "wow, this cartoon is so cool and adult".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's your favorite cool adult cartoon?

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >villain of the week format
    >also ties into the overarching plot for a riveting finale

    And people wonder why Cowboy Bebop and JJBA are so popular

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where did the idea that episodic television is bad come from?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The heck do you mean? Half of the episodes in Stardust Crusaders have nothing to do with its conclusion.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Genuinely, whats the appeal of this show? What do people see in it? I tried twice and nothing about it really interested me. Just curious what others see.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It has groundbreaking animation for the time it was released which influenced future anime. Also probably one of the absolute best anime soundtracks up their with JoJo and Evangelion

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It has groundbreaking animation for the time it was released which influenced future anime

        stop lying

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      popularized on late night cable/television across the nation back when watching anime on the internet/streaming wasn't a big thing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It took me three or four attempts to finally push through it. I still don't really care for it, but it does some things well. I think people mostly watch it for the animation and the atmosphere; it has a tone not usually found in cartoons or anime. I'm glad I pushed through it just to get it off my list (it's a short show), and some of the better episodes were toward the end anyway. I really hate Spike's stories though, I was totally uninterested in the machinations of "Mr. Cruelty" and his edgy weaboo mafia shenanigans.
      One thing I'll mention is that I tried watching it at first in English because that's how my friends had seen it, and because it's commonly referred to as the best English dub ever / the only dub that surpasses the native voices, but I was getting pretty filtered until I switched to the sub. The main characters are OK in English, but the side characters' goofy ass accents and stuff were really off-putting to me. It's a big problem in a show where side characters make up at least 50% of the screentime.

      cruel angels thesis alone mogs all of bebops soundtracks put together

      It is an all-time great to be sure, but Bebop's soundtrack has incredible range. Vocal tracks, instrumentals, jazz, rock, sad sax solos, wistful piano. For being made by one small group of people, their output is insane. Almost every episode has its own soundtrack just for itself.
      On the other hand, the emotional impact of Evangelion's soundtrack is unsurpassed to me. So many tracks choke me up or leave me almost overwhelmed, whereas Bebop just has "sweet tunes, bro". So, technically, I appreciate Bebop's OST but to me personally, I do prefer Evangelion's.

      Slayers NEXT op (Give a Reason) is literally the best anime opening there is. Get the fuck out with your shitty meme songs.
      Its a shame 99% of LULZ has never even seen or heard of Slayers.

      That's a good OP track, but I don't think it's on CAT's level. For a while Slayers was well known because Lina Inverse is in DotA (more /v/ than LULZ though), but I never heard anyone really promote or talk about the show. Also, CAT is not a meme song, it's the third most-popular karaoke song in Japan for the last ~24 years.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but I never heard anyone really promote or talk about the show
        This is b8. Or you never visit /a/.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't go there because I generally find the quality of discussion to be terrible. I have better conversations about anime and games on LULZ than I do in /a/ or /v/, respectively. I have better conversations about movies on /vr/. Et cetera. I find the main boards to be too full of memes and fanboy infighting to be useful for their actual topics. And outside of /a/, I never see Slayers come up.

          Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul has ruined anime for me because all I see is shit unsubtle writing made for kids

          This is exactly how I felt about Breaking Bad, and I dropped it only a few episodes in.
          >Ughhh there's a dude in my basement that will cut me and my family into pieces... I have to kill him, but, could I? Should I? Let me think about it for 1.5 hours of the audience's time.
          Pass.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't go there because I generally find the quality of discussion to be terrible
            >I don't go there
            >but I totally know the quality of discussions
            >And outside of /a/, I never see Slayers come up
            So literally what you mean is you don't see it on LULZ. Because it didn't air on Toonami. Which are the only anime LULZ ever talks about.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I put the "generally" in the wrong place, I meant it to be "I don't generally go there because...". I only go there periodically now because the quality is bad. It was bad years ago, it's still bad now.
              I go to other boards where anime discussions crop up sometimes. I have tons of shows on my watch list, I'm not going to go out of my way to research every little one whose OP gets posted. If the show was that good, I would hear about it more.

              [...]
              yeah cowboy funk has to be one of the best episodes they nailed the "protagonist having to deal with someone who is exactly like him" trope. and without it how could we have ever gotten

              [...]
              when my friends told me about how NGE deconstructs entertainment this is what i pictured

              instead i got mecha mecha mecha and more mecha
              [...]
              >It took me three or four attempts to finally push through it.
              it's an extraordinarily accessible series that lasts 26 episodes... you kids are weak. inuyasha would break you down

              It is accessible, but it's boring at the start. There's no serialized story going on, and the focus isn't on the main characters. The vignette episodes are interesting enough to watch, but not enough to get hooked. It takes too long to find the balance, and the expectation is that the whole show is going to be about random people and goofy shit the Beboppers come across. It's not promising.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If the show was that good, I would hear about it more
                No you wouldn't.
                The most spammed show on this entire website is fucking Dragonball and that show is fucking awful.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, Dragonball comes up a lot, but from the conversations I see I don't get the impression that it's a must-see show. It seems more like people talking about in a nostalgic sense because they saw it as kids.
                Don't worry anon, I'll remember what you said about Slayers, and if I see some corroboration later on I'll put it on my list. I'm sure it's not terrible, there's just so much to see and only so little time.

                >ctf-f black lagoon
                >no results

                I watched the first couple episodes and I thought it was cringy. I had a hard time taking the dialogue seriously.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't want you watching Slayers at all.
                Your too much of a homosexual.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You'll feel better once you once your little OP on repeat 10-20 times. Then maybe mommy will make you your favorite dinner. And don't forget - at least your stupid show isn't Dragonball, right? You're so much better than them. And me, but that goes without saying. I hope I can be a big strong alpha male like you someday.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cope.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like the aesthetics and soundtrack mostly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Top of my head
      >Atmosphere is great, a lot because of
      >Soundtrack
      >Characters are amazing and incredibly cool, primaries and secondaries
      >Cool western/BR-sci-fi setting
      >Incredibly well developed themes of past (and dealing with it) and memory (and what it makes what we are)- this is why BTW there is no "filler episode", you zoomer cretins
      >Crammed up with references from old anime to Wim Wenders to Miles Davis to fucking Indo-European mythology
      >Layered - you can like just le cool spaceship and fights, but also go deeper and enjoy the themes and the oceans of "not-said" between the characters
      >Can brag to be a genre by itself and it's correct

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      atmosphere, style, music, quality

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The art
      >The characters
      >The story
      >The relationships between all 4
      >The backstories
      >The humor

      It's perfect. A show that in one episode can be very serious and the next have two characters fight on a broken roof top with a horse coming up an elevator for a guy who thinks he's a cowboy and it all fits

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it has soul

      it OOZES soul

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >whats the appeal of this show?
      Everybody else said it’s good.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's overrated. it's good but not as good as people make it seem.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its not even the best space western anime.
    Now fuck off back to >>>/a/

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /a/ doesn't discuss good anime though

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do normies love this so much? It was okay all in all, but really nowhere near the fuzz they are making about it nowadays.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its because they saw it on Toonami as children.
      And Toonami literally never showed a good anime.
      Except Sailor Moon, which they showed a shitty dub of

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >toonami never showed any good anime

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DID I STUTTER homosexual?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Cowboy Bebop
    >Evangelion
    >Ping Pong

    The holy trinity.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Evangelion
      >babby's first 2deep5me anime
      even more overrated than cowboy bebop lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I always see the 3deep5me but what anime has ever surpassed it? That’s like calling the shining shit, and then when asked for true horror, they give some shitty French art film actually trying too hard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all 3 of those suck balls, specially nge

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hated Ping Pong's rotoscoped style and dropped it when it came out. I'm surprised it's now viewed as a classic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It got shilled hard on /a/ on release, some of it spilled over to LULZ.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no plot the show
    >edgy my name is not important antagonist Vicious

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul has ruined anime for me because all I see is shit unsubtle writing made for kids

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      both of those shows have anime tier writing, what are you smoking.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you said The Wire or Sopranos I'd understand. There's definitely animes out there with the same quality of writing as Breaking Bad at least, if not better. Not sure about BCS though, BCS is much better than BB but it does have cartoony stuff

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Samurai Champloo is a better overall anime and The Big O mogs it extremely hard as a noir series. It also has a much better premise and sci fi story. I actually can't shill Big O enough, if any anons want something genuinely special in an anime it's what you should check out. A lot of the guys who worked on Bebop and Batman TAS made it and it certainly shows. Entire show is magic and the animation for the first season is one of the last truly great hand drawn anime.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking hell, when is LULZ going to actually watch some decent anime instead of shilling toonami shit all day.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >its on toonami therefore bad
        Let me guess, it should be some kind of isekai harem anime? /a/ has some of the absolute worst fucking taste in anime and often refuses to discuss anything actually good. I've watched plenty of other shit but classics are classics for a reason.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cowboy Bebop is not a classic to anyone but Toonami homosexuals.
          And the best anime ever made has already been posted itt.
          Its Slayers

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You absolute double n-word, get the fuck off my board. Are you the type of fag to get annoyed at sonny boy for being original? Somebody post the screencap, you know the one.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              sonny boy was banal isekai shit that had nothing of substance to it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >get annoyed at sonny boy for being original?
              I don't even know what that is.
              I don't watch current anime.
              Except Detective Conan

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        Never.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why would you shoot a man after throwing him out of a plane?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      only 1 reason to watch Big O

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah and that's schwarzwald.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like the big O but the problem is the second season kind of brings it down. The narrative changes so much in the second season that it doesn't even feel like the same show, it they would have just stuck with what they were doing in the first season it would have been way better received.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They wanted to do that, however the network wanted it finished. I think the ending was good, and I enjoy that they kept it pretty open ended. Sooner or later I have to take a look at it again and analyze the biblical angle again

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >cartoon network wanted it finished
          They wanted the "big mystery" revealed or at least that's what the director claims, one of the staff from adult swim who greenlit the second season claims differently and said they didn't want it revealed at all and just wanted what was going on explained. The head writer of the anime at the time was the same guy who wrote serial experiments lain and apparently it was his decision to take the story in the direction it went. From what it sounds like to me is that there was a misunderstanding between the two parties and that resulted in what we got. I still think the director had the right idea of just keeping it an anthology.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cute dorothy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I wish we had more art of her in that green dress, she has such nice legs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >as a noir series.
      CB is not only noir.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Big O is stupid crap

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        eat penis loser, big-o was great

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KEK at all the weebs shitting on this because there are no underage children to fap on. The seething only makes it better.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the only good anime is hxh, everything else sucks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      based 99bro

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dorohedoro is better. Or that weird Mecha Seven Samurai show. And these are all on Netflix, which is mainstream af. That's how much of a non event this hipster jazz muso in space garbage was.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ctf-f black lagoon
    >no results

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody mentions it cause it's shit and we have some homosexual spamming on the board every day complaining about live action adaptations.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      >implying that Schlock Lagoon tops anything

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What series?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's cringe and includes some of the worst kinds of anime clichés.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >seething netflix trannies itt

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pierrot Le Fou is absolute kino

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. Excellent action while giving some horror vibes.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the one anime I watched when I was 10 has never been topped

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >still watching anime in your thirties

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Says the guy in his 30s posting a shitty western cartoon.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's unironically less pathetic than a grown man watching Gurren Lagann when he gets home from his shift at the grocery store

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, it's equally as pathetic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              As long as we both understand you're pathetic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >As long as we both understand you're pathetic
                Sure, as long as you understand you are too.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not even watanabe's best series. Champloo and Appolon are miles better.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can’t be serious with this cringe shit

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    It has been topped.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    go back
    >>>/a/

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anime is bad, all of it with zero exception. This drawing lines in the sand homosexualry just cause you have nostalgia for some cartoons on Toonami needs to end. It's all low brow fodder. It doesn't remotely come close to even the most mediocre forgettable Hollywood flick.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did you ever watch CB?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Obviously not or he wouldn't be saying that shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. It's not good.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Could even call it mediocre (bad) quite frankly

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Try the Netflix version, seems like it'd be more your speed

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I hope it stays close to the cringey dialogue because nips cannot write anything genuine and human. I hope it keeps the lack of subtlety and nuance.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So you haven't seen it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So basically you can't overcome language barriers or effectively read/interpret subtitles and you have decided it is everyone else's problem rather than your own. And you know why? Because you can't grasp subtlety or nuance.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not the same anon but it´s a stupid show

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      personally I really like anime just because it gives me a break from having to look at actors/actual humans for all my escapist media

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're right that Cowboy Bebop is low brow, but I think you're wrong about all anime being bad.

      Have you seen Tenshi no Tamago, for example?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Have you seen Tenshi no Tamago, for example?
        Yes. Oshii is trash. It's basically another discount Tarkovsky flick from him but with student film sensibilities as per usual of anime directors. It's extremely on the nose. Okay aesthetics.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not saying it's as good as Tarkovsky, but I think you're being a bit too critical to say it's 'trash'.
          I'd ask you to elaborate on these 'film student sensibilities' but I imagine you wouldn't or can't.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are answering to a cynical pseud with no actual passion and that just feels superior shitting on stuff.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I know. The best way to deal with pseudo intellectuals is to ask them to explain their reasoning, which they invariably can't or can't to an adequate degree and then call attention to it when they ignore requests to elaborate.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. I also did it here

                Post was eaten
                [...]
                Probably right, but let's humor this cretin.
                [...]
                [...]
                Could you tell me why CB's themes of time and memory are in your opinion badly developed?
                Could you bring a few examples?

                >Could you tell me why CB's themes of time and memory
                No answer.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    memory and why are in your opinion badly developed?
    Could you bring few examples?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post was eaten

      Obviously not or he wouldn't be saying that shit.

      Probably right, but let's humor this cretin.

      Yes. It's not good.

      Could even call it mediocre (bad) quite frankly

      Could you tell me why CB's themes of time and memory are in your opinion badly developed?
      Could you bring a few examples?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Could you tell me why CB's themes of time and memory are in your opinion badly developed?
        >Could you bring a few examples?
        Wow! What a gotcha. You really showed everyone by demanding that they elaborate on a point nobody was making.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >its another self conscious toonamifag draws a line in the sand between the anime he watched when he was ten and every other anime ever
    Love these threads

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, imagine drawing a line in the sand between things that are worth watching and things that are not. Pure insanity.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Yeah, imagine drawing a line in the sand between things that are worth watching and things that are not. Pure insanity.

        do neckbeards really????

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's another obvious troll

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is art and not a product. It was made with love.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not really saying much since that goes for most anime from that era.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lolwut anime is inherently a product, especially the tv ones.
      they didn't greenlight the show unless some epic marketable ship was put in the show for otaku to buy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they didn't greenlight the show unless some epic marketable ship was put in the show for otaku to buy.
        But they were free to do whatever the fuck they wanted as long those were on screen.
        This is why CB is what it is.
        NTA, I am

        Top of my head
        >Atmosphere is great, a lot because of
        >Soundtrack
        >Characters are amazing and incredibly cool, primaries and secondaries
        >Cool western/BR-sci-fi setting
        >Incredibly well developed themes of past (and dealing with it) and memory (and what it makes what we are)- this is why BTW there is no "filler episode", you zoomer cretins
        >Crammed up with references from old anime to Wim Wenders to Miles Davis to fucking Indo-European mythology
        >Layered - you can like just le cool spaceship and fights, but also go deeper and enjoy the themes and the oceans of "not-said" between the characters
        >Can brag to be a genre by itself and it's correct

        And as you can see, none addressed what I wrote there because it's all true.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they didn't greenlight the show unless some epic marketable ship was put in the show for otaku to buy.
      But they were free to do whatever the fuck they wanted as long those were on screen.
      This is why CB is what it is.
      NTA, I am [...]
      And as you can see, none addressed what I wrote there because it's all true.

      it´s not art, it´s juvenile garbage

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        massive pseud, answer the questions asked ITT

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thats not gundam wing or gits:sac1/2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wing is only good when it's not trying to take itself seriously, unfortunately that's only a small fraction of the anime whereas the rest is just retreading most of what happens in UC.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly liked the "episodic" episodes better than the ones that focused on Vicious. Guy was just too much for me to be able to take seriously. I thought they did a much better job with Vincent in that respect. Excellent show in spite of that, though.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bebop sinks so low as to copy naruto

    pfft haha

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't this due to the fact that the same animator worked on both of these scenes?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      naruto did it better simply because neji is ourguy

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >le jazz
    >le cool guy
    >le heckin doggorino
    >no epic battles
    >no backstory
    >no cool arcs
    yikes

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    logh was better

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        god damn I love this show

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        infallible logic

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its not all that amazing. the soundtrack does a lot of heavy lifting. genius-level music will make anything better.
    that said it's alright, it's solid. it's not moe shit.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not that good. The original berserk anime shits on it, so does outlaw star. Cowboy bebop is the gay man's outlaw star

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was the perfect time to make something like that. The entire world culture has been on decline since then so it's not surprising nothing topped it.
    We need a great reset and culling of the younger generation, they're all worthless.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      true, all millennials and zoomers who consoom this anime tripe need to die.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are plenty of better anime.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did she love him?

    The show makes obvious parallels between her and Julia.

    The most obvious once when Spike falls out that window and wakes up to Faye singing to him, like Julia did the night they met.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think there was a triangle in the ship. Mind the Jet parts are highly controversial and many react badly when I propose them, but the Faye-Spike part of what I write still answers you.

      Spike jokes about Jet having a weak spot for her in Jupiter Jazz.
      In the series, included so-called "filler" episodes by retards, we see that Jet has the tendency to be the "dad" of the relationship. He is for the crew, but also is hyper protective of his women and develops a strange relationship with the young lady in Boogie Woogie.
      Jet has this protective instinct, many layers under, for Faye too.

      Spike sees clear parallelism between Julia and Faye. Julia is more sophisticated but they are both hard women with some gold in them. But he cannot go past what happened. He died a long time ago - arguably, he wasn't even 100% there with Julia when she came back.

      Faye has a crush. They also had immediate sexual tension in Honky Tonk. She goes back and forth, possibly even having something with Jet at the time of Cowboy funk if she didn't sleep with Andy (Andy could have opened her eyes about aspects of Spike that kill his charme). Nonetheless, that initial spark never went away and affection for a comrade settled in too. She realizes it too late when Spike flies away one last time in TRFB part 2.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Faye crying when she realizes he isn’t coming back this time is one of the saddest scenes in the whole series.

        Spike was an idiot for not seeing what was right in front of him. He wanted Julia so bad that he built up this idea of her in his head over the years, and she was just… not that person.

        Julia just got up left him one day. She didn’t seem to care or miss him at all.

        Faye always took him back in and patched up his wounds. She genuinely cared about him, and Spike’s dumb ass couldn’t see that because he was too busy fantasizing about Julia.

        Then when meets her and she’s ripped away from him, instead of going back home to Faye and starting over, his dumb ass leaves her crying in the hallway to go on a suicide mission.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Man FUCK Spike Spiegel.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "I want the one I can't have" is a trope common not just in fiction but in life. It didn't surprise me one bit seeing that scene. Younger people have the bliss of being ignorant on how stupid and self-defeating people can be.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >He wanted Julia so bad
          Did he? In the past for sure, when she comes back I don't know.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >his dumb ass leaves her crying in the hallway to go on a suicide mission.
          >Spike, is it for the Girl?
          >She's dead, there is nothing I can do for her now
          He went to clean up the Red Dragon so Jet and Faye could survive.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That’s what he told Jet, but we all know he went there to die and punish as many of them as he could in the process for taking Julia from him. He had no intention of ever returning.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >He had no intention of ever returning.
              He knew he couldn't return, but his intention was to sacrifice to save them.
              He reaches the same conclusion Faye reached in the same scene - the Bebop is his home. He has to defend it at any cost.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope that would betray all the build- up from the previous eps. Its a convenient excuse to reunite with julia. just like bounty hunting was an excuse to sniff leads about julia. im sorry bro but spike lived and died as a simp

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          People want what they can't have.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Did she love him?

      I'd say no; but she cared about him and she related to him because they were both damaged people and she found the idea that they could both leave it all behind and try to live a normal life appealing. The femme fatale type who wants to start over with the morally grey protagonist is a common trope in film noir and Cowboy Bebop uses a lot of those tropes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think she had a crush, but either way she cared for him if not just as a bounty hunter partner
      They are cute together

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The most obvious once when Spike falls out that window and wakes up to Faye singing to him, like Julia did the night they met.
      The first time I watched this I thought it would have ended with the usual "Julia comes back but Spike chooses Faye, happy ever after".
      Oh boy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PUFF PUFF FAYE FAYYY
      SMOKE-SMOKE FAYEFAYYY

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      HAHA SMOKING HAHA

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cowboy Bebop, The Big O, Patlabor (movies), GITS Stand Alone Complex, LOTGH, and Eureka Seven are masterpieces of animated fiction. Bebop is special to me for being the first I watched, but it isn't the "best". All that said, there is something special about the "space cowboy" setting that really does define a genre.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love cowboy bebop, but space dandy was better. Anyways, take it to /a/

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Best Dandy episodes were great but 2/3 of the show is mediocre.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1 Excellent
    2 Bad
    3 Good
    4 Pretty Good
    5 Good
    6 Not Great
    7 Pretty Good
    8 Real Good
    9 Ed Episode
    10 Good
    11 Good, Alien
    12 Good
    13 Good, have to watch 12
    14 Bad
    15 Faye Episode
    16 Bad
    17 Bad
    18 Good
    19 Not Great
    20 Good
    21 Bad
    22 Good
    23 Okay
    24 Okay
    25 See you space cowboy...
    26 You're gonna carry that weight

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only Mushroom Samba, Heavy Metal Queen and Pierrot Le Fou are worth rewatching.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    That's not Legend Of The Galactic Heroes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cowboy Bebop is a more human series. Legend Of The Galactic Heroes is more cold and calculated.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What would be the/your definition of a more "Human" series?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cowboy Bebop is a tragic nostalgic love story. Its about loss, regret, trauma, death, betrayal, cheating, romance, addiction, etc.

          It’s a story about really fucked up people who can’t move on from the past, and let their addictions and vices and regrets destroy their lives.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'll be honest, Anon. I didn't really feel anything tragic about the story. Spike wanted out, Julia got cold feet, and Vicious took over. Faye I can understand. Jet had a decent noir story, but I could see that twist coming from a mile away. I just found Bebop to be more about cliches and a love letter to 90's action tropes/scenes. I get why people love it. But as far as Chinese cartoons go. It doesn't even really make my top 10.

            I think the part that killed it for me was how on the nose it can be. "Look into my eyes, one is different because I'm looking at the past". Then on the last episode, the colors are the same because Spike accepts the present and they have to focus in on it? Then again, I guess it's a kids' cartoon. I shouldn't be so critical.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Then on the last episode
              That IS the last episode. Which also reveals those visions weren't memories, Spike was literally seeing that stuff on his artificial eye malfunctioning.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Julia got cold feet
              She made a difficult choice, I wouldn't call that "cold feet"

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Merkatz was a great character

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Amazing how one episode killed an entire series.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the funny part is the girls barefoot on her instragram but they couldnt make her barefoot playing a character that never wears shoes

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ENTER

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this shit is just plain gross.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember stumbling across this 21 years ago on Adult Swim, they didn't even promote it before it aired. In fact Adult Swim was new too, just kinda came out of nowhere. Good times.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    overrated garbage

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Samurai Champloo was at least equal if not marginally better.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nothing has topped it
    It's the worst tv show I've ever seen. Digimon was better.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the reason why neckbeards love this show is because cowboy bepop does the same cliche but with more exposition and action scenes added to the mix

    also because of muh japan

    for me, it´s overrated garbage, the mc being a plot armor doesn´t help either (but he dies at the end!!!!, yeah at the end of the series, after killing 10000s yakuzas like a terminator)

    it´s juvenile trash

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See

      Top of my head
      >Atmosphere is great, a lot because of
      >Soundtrack
      >Characters are amazing and incredibly cool, primaries and secondaries
      >Cool western/BR-sci-fi setting
      >Incredibly well developed themes of past (and dealing with it) and memory (and what it makes what we are)- this is why BTW there is no "filler episode", you zoomer cretins
      >Crammed up with references from old anime to Wim Wenders to Miles Davis to fucking Indo-European mythology
      >Layered - you can like just le cool spaceship and fights, but also go deeper and enjoy the themes and the oceans of "not-said" between the characters
      >Can brag to be a genre by itself and it's correct

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what do you mean by atmosphere?

        it´s not layered, the reason why you liked as a kid it´s because it´s easy to follow to begin with

        it doesn´t have well developed themes because they´re superficial and cliche as it gets, also cowboy bepop is in the same genre as outlaw star, they even have the same setting

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just tell us you are pretending to be retarded and everyone will save time then.
          I mean, CB is at the same time obvious and too difficult for you to notice its simplest themes.
          Did you notice how memory is vital for most of the plots and sub-plots in the whole series?
          It's layered because you can ignore these things and still enjoy the action and the references, or just the action.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I mean, CB is at the same time obvious and too difficult for you to notice its simplest themes.

            oh i see, you´re retarded so you "don´t get the show even if you watch for the nth time"

            >It's layered because you can ignore these things and still enjoy the action and the references, or just the action.

            it´s not layered, it´s basic storytelling to add backstories to your characters in a show/movie that you´re creating, of course you would´ve notice too if you didn´t devote exclusively to japanese media

            if you mean layered in the show itself, no, not really, the episodes are really straighforward

            >nooooo you don´t get it, it has like eleven plots going at the same time!!!!!

            stop lying weeb

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >oh i see, you´re retarded so you "don´t get the show even if you watch for the nth time"
              No, you really cannot name what the main themes are, little pseud.
              lmao at your entire existence.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No, you really cannot name what the main themes are, little pseud.

                because the last time i watched was in 2019, shitty anime makes me forget it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >2019
                It's few years back you absolute, ADHD-riddled smoothbrain

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the reason why neckbeards love this show is because cowboy bepop does the same cliche but with more exposition and action scenes added to the mix
    >also because of muh japan
    >for me, it´s overrated garbage, the mc being a plot armor doesn´t help either (but he dies at the end!!!!, yeah at the end of the series, after killing 10000s yakuzas like a terminator)
    >it´s juvenile trash

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shitting on anime and especially normalfagbop is reddit? lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >exposition
      You don't understand werdz or how to use greentext. kys newfag delete system 32 folder and uninstall LULZ

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Outlaw Star was better.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No it wasn't, but it did have good waifus.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Outlaw Star is one of my favorite shows but even I admit that it wasn't as good as Bebop.

      The real question is whether Bebop was better than Samurai Champloo.

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    by being a work of passion and not an advertisement for some shitty light novel.

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >jet was cowboy bepop this whole time

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    think we all realize the worst episodes were ganymede elegy and boogie-woogie feng shui but i liked black dog serenade a lot because of the noir

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ganymede elegy
      ganymede elegy is quintessential CB. It's also, along with session 1, a great parallel with Spike.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always thought Sympathy for the Devil was the worst. The villain isn't that interesting and he's the focus of the episode. Plus it strays into supernatural territory more than I like.

      Ganymede Elegy at least has a neat setting and its relatable to aging men like myself who have old flames they need to forget about. I suppose the same can be said of Boogie Woogie Feng Shui but it also strays into super natural territory and it gets a little cringey.

      Honestly there isn't an episode that I didn't like, even Sympathy For the Devil has is way better than most anime.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pic related Sympathy For the Devil.

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he doesn't watch grown men cry for 20 minutes while playing rock paper scissors
    squid games was kaiji for retards

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Outlaw Star is better

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because when space settings arent just used to be existential, its really good. i wish more space stuff would take the watanabe pill

  67. 2 weeks ago
    scp foundation- mr. bruh (state: euclid)

    Cus modern times are shit!

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