2023 Toyota Crown revealed

>AWD
>Hybrid
>4 variations
>Sedan
>Wagon
>Hatch
>Crossover
Sedan looks the best, crossover and hatch look terrible

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like a asiaticshit version of the rav4

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The estate isn't bad but it's not wagonny enough

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        why does the estate look like a dumb crossover instead of a sick wagon?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Wagon bros we're coming home.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This actually looks like it might be worth a buy a few years down the line if there's an option to lower it down to sedan height. Maybe they'll fix their production frickups by then too.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Someone photoshop it to be lowered to actual wagon height

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >YOU WANN DRIVE CAWW?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Found some butt shots.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >We want to give the impression of having a clamshell trunk like Lucid without actually having one

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I love brown paint and I especially love two tone. This thing looks great to me, even for a cuckover.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Here is the last one.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >2.5 NA or 2.4 turbo, both hybrid

      The proportions for the crossover remind me of a scaled up subcompact sedan.
      Why the frick did they have to lift the wagon and hatch???

      >awd

      That can mean a lot of things

      99% sure it'll be the e-four system with a weak rear motor and no connection to the engine.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Urusbros… did we get too wienery

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I kinda like it
      It does somewhat look like a knock-off Urus

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lexus GS?

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >new sedan
    >no wagon option
    dropped

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It literally says in the OP there is a wagon variant you moron.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >wagon
      >no wood panel option
      Into the trash it goes

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong with hatch?

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Looks great I want it.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm absolutely shocked that Toyota managed to design a car that actually looks good and not like some gaudy bulbous monstrosity.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Proportions are so fricked, all of them look like a crossover
    Seems that Toyota JP already took down the previous gen from their site.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Also the front looks liek ass; your gen front end is much prettier.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i thought crown were for boring japanese businessmen

      do they really drive around this bmw-tier sniffer?

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >They all look like a crossover because only the sedan is actually sedan-height
    Fricking elevens

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Im living over there trying to be an honorary 11 but it aint it.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Frick me what an ugly POS this is where the crown peaked

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Black person wheels and Black person stance
      frick off

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're a Black person wheel with Black person stance

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          goddamn an s130. there's something about those inner headlights (foglamps?) that just has such an old school cool vibe to it. Did you buy this off carfromjapan a few months back? Only asking because I saw a white v8 crown posted there and it was gone after about a week.
          Also are you going to molest it or keep it stock exterior, mods interior route?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            oh wait is

            Frick me what an ugly POS this is where the crown peaked

            your first pic...damn. can't say im a fan of lowering cars but it's not my car at the end of the day. Definitely agree about the s130 being peak crown.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's not lowered that's how low the factory air suspension can go. I haven't owned it for several years now.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            oh wow, forgot about the TEMS thingy. why'd you sell it? got bored?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Air suspension shenanigans. Avoid any air susp toyota unless you have access to an expert.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            sheeesh air suspension is literally just a balloon how hard can it be

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            DIS HWYITE BOI GOT A DA PASS?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            no captcha be straight bussin yo

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Did you buy this off carfromjapan a few months back?
            Funny you should ask that. I didn't get the crown from there but 5 mins after you posted this I got the long awaited email from carfromjapan with the shipping and ETA date of my next car.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            damn. i was contemplating buying a crown wagon from there, but otherwise i just window shop. anything i should know buying off that site?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Nah it was pretty straightforward. Make sure your bank will let you wire large sums overseas using SWIFT. The customer support lady speaks english and she will phone you up if you're having dramas. Maybe familiarize yourself with jap car grading scales

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            nice. i'd imagine they'd get a healthily sized commission but that's the price of decent service i guess.
            I'm familiar with the nip grading scales but I dunno how to read those auction sheets where they mark down imperfections or dents etc. am looking through guides on it now though.
            at the risk of sounding like a weeb it seems like they don't have as many scummy sellers that try to hide shit like a blown head gasket or rust etc. but i don't know any better.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Is it fwd-based AWD?
      Also the hatch and even crossover look better than the wagon.

      I really hate how the trunk has what looks like a fake window on it because for some reason even sedans have to look like liftbacks

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Interior with obligatory tablet and digital IP.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder what the red button in the passenger footwell does

      They all look like shit. Japs have really lost the race to the Koreans haven't they.

      aside from Mazda, yep

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >red button
        It looks like a road flare.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        All Mazda needs is a performance car or two to seal their position as the new best Jap carmaker. I understand they are trying to go up-market now, but they can try what Toyota did with Scion and just sell it under a different brand.
        I really just want something to rival the Si and GTI man

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Domestically, Mazda already is the best auto maker, as far as I'm concerned. The value you get on their cars is insane, compared to other brands.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it's a road flare

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick is up with the cheap fricking interior? Previous Crowns had Lexus-esque interiors.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >fake ass looking woodgrain
        >bulbous bloated buttons everywhere
        >still uses 90s plastic
        man what are you talking about, this looks like dated as frick

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      So, basically a cheaper version of the Mirai interior and panel?

      A bro lifted avalon, wooooooooooooooooow. 100% chance the US will never get the wagon. Frick toyota. Bring your fricking Hiace to the states you fricking slant eyed fricks.

      Based. While we're at it, bring the goddamn Alphard as well.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They all look like shit. Japs have really lost the race to the Koreans haven't they.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's over

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How is it different from that Camry?

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    don't know where these artistic render pics came from but this is what it actually looks like

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        aizen lookin ass car

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >it's just a facelift Camry

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Hybrid
    please be based on the mirai hydrogen fuel cell please be based on the mirai hydrogen fuel cell please be based on the mirai hydrogen fuel cell please be based on the mirai hydrogen fuel cell please be based on the mirai hydrogen fuel cell

    I WANT PURE H20 CUMMING OUTTA MY PIPES

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      OH NO

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >hydrogen

      hydrogen is a terrible fuel and the only reason anyone even slightly considered it was because lithium-ion batteries hadn't been invented yet

      >hey let's spend like 1.5kw of electricity to crack 1kwh of hydrogen, meaning we start the process at a loss
      >then we have to compress it, taking even more electricity
      >then we have to pump the compressed liquid along pipelines that don't exist, requiring us to build them, which involves smelting, forming, and welding an unbelievable amount of high-strength steel, which requires an absolutely astonishing amount of energy
      >and then put the stuff on hydrogen tanker trucks that don't exist and need to be built to take to hydrogen stations that don't exist and need to be built
      >in order to fuel hydrogen cars which need a huge heavy reinforced hydrogen tank that is necessary both to stop the tiny hydrogen molecules from leaking through the metal, and to not have the car turn into a bomb if it gets rear ended
      >so they can run that hydrogen through an onboard fuel cell to power an electric motor, for a final efficiency of like 5% (after we spend all the energy builting the infrastructure)
      OR
      >hook up a charging station to the pre-existing grid and let people charge their electric cars with electricity

      it only made sense in the 90s, when car batteries were shit

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Lot more hydrogen out there than lithium.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Lot more hydrogen out there than lithium.

          Sure, it's one of the most abundant elements in the universe. But it's a shitty battery. Even before you get into building a nationwide hydrogen infrastructure, you put in a lot more electricity in than you get out.

          It kind of made sense in the 90s when you had to charge a 900-lb NiMH battery for 12 hours to get 30 miles of range, and the battery would start losing after a few hundred cycles

          anon, if you are using solar/wind to get hydrogen then the inefficiency is a moot point. The electrical grid is trash and cant handle millions of electric cars so you'd have to spend that money on infrastructure anyways. In terms of refilling time, most people probably would rather have a couple minute hydrogen refill over an 30-60 minute wait while recharging, that if a charger is available.

          EV is a fricking meme.

          >anon, if you are using solar/wind to get hydrogen then the inefficiency is a moot point. The electrical grid is trash and cant handle millions of electric cars so you'd have to spend that money on infrastructure anyways.

          Anon, if you're going to build all that solar and wind, you could just use it to charge EVs.

          It's easier to add solar and wind to the existing grid than to build gigantic hydrogen cracking plants, with compressing/chilling, plus thousands of miles of high-pressure hydrogen pipes, plus pumping stations for those pipes, plus hydrogen tanker trucks, plus hydrogen tanks plus pumps at gas stations, so you can run hydrogen through a fuel cell to power an electric car

          Hydrogen is a battery and it's a really shitty one, even before you think of the absolutely huge amount of energy we'd have to spend building the infrastructure to use that shitty battery

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Anon, if you're going to build all that solar and wind, you could just use it to charge EVs.
            You do realize you are going to have to pump out 10s of millions of charging stations right? Like every fricking parking space will need one. Not to mention expand the number of power plants and install all the infrastructure for all those new plants and chargers. That is no less of an issue than building a few hydrogen plants and putting some pipes in the ground. Hydrogen trucks are already in production, it would just need to be scaled up.

            Hydrogen may be inefficient, but in terms of being closest to the convenience of oil, hydrogen wins.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >You do realize you are going to have to pump out 10s of millions of charging stations right?

            Sure, that's easy. It's an electric charger, they're not particularly hard or expensive to make. Compare to a high-pressure H pump.

            >Like every fricking parking space will need one

            No, Anon.

            > Not to mention expand the number of power plants and install all the infrastructure for all those new plants and chargers

            Yes. But you'd need to build all of that, plus even more if you were going to try to turn electricity into hydrogen and then compress the hydrogen into liquid and then pump the hydrogen to hydrogen stations where you've torn up the place to install hydrogen storage and then fill hydrogen trucks which then have to transport the hydrogen to gas stations that have also been torn up to install hydrogen tanks and pumps in order for people to pump it into their cars to turn back into electricity.

            >a few hydrogen plants and putting some pipes in the ground.

            lmao have you seen road workers upgrading a 5-foot section of sewer? Imagine that with thousands of miles of thick steel pipe, which has to resist massive pressure, minimize H leakage through the metal, survive earthquakes etc. And that's not even getting into the electricity cost to smelt the steel and form it and weld it into pipe and then to transport and assemble and weld together the pipe. Or, you could not do any of that and just plug in chargers, so people can charge their electric car with electricity

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >>Like every fricking parking space will need one
            >No, Anon.
            Yeah you have fun with that. Imagine what it would be like if EVERYONE drove and EV.

            >pipes
            The pipes would be for water, not hydrogen. You transport the hydrogen by truck, You know, like how you put oil in the pipeline to the refinery then put the gasoline in the trucks. You dont put hydrogen gas in pipelines similar to how you dont put gasoline in pipelines.

            >Yes. But you'd need to build all of that, plus even more if you were going to try to turn electricity into hydrogen and then compress the hydrogen into liquid and then pump the hydrogen to hydrogen stations where you've torn up the place to install hydrogen storage and then fill hydrogen trucks which then have to transport the hydrogen to gas stations that have also been torn up to install hydrogen tanks and pumps in order for people to pump it into their cars to turn back into electricity.

            This is just an argument about turning electricity into hydrogen and back to electricity and again its a moot point if that energy is coming from renewable sources.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Better start up a company that manufactures wires, poles, switchgear, transformers, cermaic standoff, and has a trade school attached to it to make money of student loans needed for all the linesman needed. It's really just that easy. Electricity is pretty much magic. All you have to do is buy a charger from Amazon prime and suddenly there will be electricity coming out of it.

            Using amazon prime also avoids inconveient geopolitical consideratsions like war and eco-communists shuttding down the energy sector.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Tbf hydrogen vehicles still require a scrubber that uses rare metals like platinum or palladium

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        anon, if you are using solar/wind to get hydrogen then the inefficiency is a moot point. The electrical grid is trash and cant handle millions of electric cars so you'd have to spend that money on infrastructure anyways. In terms of refilling time, most people probably would rather have a couple minute hydrogen refill over an 30-60 minute wait while recharging, that if a charger is available.

        EV is a fricking meme.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Lithium was chosen by politicians not engineers. They are heavy, degrade, slow to charge

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    post the estate ass

    my body is ready

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So this is now a new sub brand or something? Now everyone wants the jdm crown emblem.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >awd

    That can mean a lot of things

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What is the point of this car?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Good question. Why on earth wouldn't the Japanese just get a Lexus instead?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Because Lexus is more expensive.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          pretty sure the anon you replied to was shitposting. Nips always keep the good shit for themselves. Toyota celsior which was the jdm ls400 had a few more whizbang gizmos than foreign markets

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    A bro lifted avalon, wooooooooooooooooow. 100% chance the US will never get the wagon. Frick toyota. Bring your fricking Hiace to the states you fricking slant eyed fricks.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Would love to have a 4cyl diesel hiace with manual trans sticking out of dash.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Any word on the GR GTE concept?
    They kind of look alike.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yay. More appliances from Toyota.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Least boring modern car brand

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >2 of their modern sporty cars are just rebadges from other manufactureres
        >1 is a souped up yaris 3 cylinder which incoorparates subaru tech
        Yeah what an exciting car brand. Even mercedes and vw are more exciting than toyoder

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >2023 Toyota Crown revealed
    all i see is different version of camry...why asians make such boring and shit looking cars ?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Camry means crown in Japanese

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if they will fix their shitty media console. I use a flashdrive to play music, and the software on most newer toyota models is absolutely horrible when it comes to playback from usb.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We should have gotten this version, no one will buy that lifted sedan

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Sedans don't sell in the USA

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Uhhh bros? Is this some sort of out of season April Fool’s joke? This looks like some sort of Chinese Corolla ripoff. Where the frick is the Crown?

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    sedan is based and is the return of the GS

    pray we get it in the US

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They should just replace the ES with this, people would buy into the name

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Frick I want it if it has like a 50mile ev only range.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No gonna lie, if it ends up with that true Japanese Toyota reliability, I'd buy one.

    Unfortunately it's probably gonna have a massive markup (between the dealers and the typical Toyota tax) on it unless the car market absolutely craters by the time these hit the US shores.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i feel like the toyota reliability meme only applies to 80s-early 00s toyotas. ever since then it feels like they've just been coasting along on their reputation.
      They're still good cars, but there's something about late model toyotas where you can just feel that something is different, compared to 80s-00s models.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the wheels on the sedan look sick

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