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1. Free will exists. 2. Cartesian dualism is real. 3. Nihilism is the only ethical stance. 4. Math and science are objective truth. 5.

1. Free will exists.
2. Cartesian dualism is real.
3. Nihilism is the only ethical stance.
4. Math and science are objective truth.
5. Any paradox can be resolved by either explaining it or recognizing it is nonsensical.

There, I did it. I solved all of philosophy.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    good post i agree with all

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Free will does not exist, you are trained like a dog

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      This work breed die repeat

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      THIS
      OP is a government plant

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      then how did you make this post?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was trained from my environment. If I was born in rural China, and you put me in front of the internet, I would not be making posts.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There are very few people in your exact same environment who are making that exact same post. So how did you make that post?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is no one else in my exact same environment, there are millions of variables that led to this exact moment.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >there is no one else who lives outside of china
              we're not talking about variables, we're talking about your choice made on your own volition.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                every single thing you have ever seen, heard, read, felt is a part of your environment. not "not china".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >can't answer the question
                your premise that the mythical "training" is always effective is objectively false, and you are wasting your free will on "not china" so that's still on you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I already told you why, I was born in america and my parents spoke english and read books to me and I learned language and I went through life and had experiences, it's a little much to all type out here, it's nearly infinite.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                we're talking about a post, not your life story. it's finite.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nothing is nothing, nothing happens in a vacuum without influence

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >everything is influencing everything in all directions
                this refutes your own argument.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, I already said that. The environment includes all influences and experiences. Your past experiences influence how you experience future experiences.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly, that's how free will works. You process your past experiences and decide how you interact with the present experience.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It does not sound like "you" decide when "you" are decided by a near infinite set of influences

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                we don't interact with near infinite sets of influences, we interact with humans using human tools and human parts.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                humans which have been being trained, changing the environment for thousands of years. humans are a part of your environment.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                we interact with humans, not thousands of years.

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                >we don't interact with near infinite sets of influences
                Not every single day, but every little factor from your history, your parents' history, the history of your culture, your language, your geography all play a role in who you are and what you think.

                Just the tiniest change in history and you would be someone completely different with a different set of values and a different way of seeing the world. What if George Washington lost the revolutionary war? What if Constantine never had a dream of winning the Milvian bridge? What if the first human was devoured by a giant jaguar before she gave birth? What if the mass extinction event in the Cretaceous era never took place?

                you might have maladaptive daydreaming. your habits can play a role in a better and more practical future.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                take a human and isolate them from birth from the influence of thousands of years of social development, do you think you will perceive them as having agency?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >use your free will to take another humans agency away by imprisoning them by force
                >do they still have agency?
                Relative to most other people, no. Within the boundaries of their isolated reality, yes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nothing influences me. You must be daydreaming.
                Stupid. No understanding of human history nor Earth history. No ability to refute counter-claims. Spend another 4 years in school and try again.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if things were different then they would be different
                You're not educated or intelligent. No need to get upset.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

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                >we don't interact with near infinite sets of influences
                Not every single day, but every little factor from your history, your parents' history, the history of your culture, your language, your geography all play a role in who you are and what you think.

                Just the tiniest change in history and you would be someone completely different with a different set of values and a different way of seeing the world. What if George Washington lost the revolutionary war? What if Constantine never had a dream of winning the Milvian bridge? What if the first human was devoured by a giant jaguar before she gave birth? What if the mass extinction event in the Cretaceous era never took place?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can hear the seething business owner who just lost hundreds of his underpaid employees typing angrily from this post kek

      Welcome aboard the losers club :^)

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. Freewill both does and doesn't exist, or it wouldn't be free
    2.The rest is a hybrid of Chaos and Order. No state is one or the other. They are derivative of both at the same time. At every scale observable. Dualism exists in a virtual impermanent, unprovable, yet apparent state.
    3. The only ethical stance is not a judgement lower creatures like humans can make. They have failed so many times. Ever assuming we've achieved a proper theory on it is pure hubris.
    4. Math and Science are woo woo abstractionism that leads people down paths of delusions. The Greatest minds always learn that they know nothing. Society thought they knew everything. I think I'll trust the geniuses on that one, not society.
    5. True paradoxes cannot be explained. Humans make attempts at producing paradoxes that can be though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Greatest Minda always learn that they know nothing.
      Ignorance is strength? Yeah, nah, not gonna fall for this anti-intellectual propaganda.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        What has being wise and plugged in got you? I will wait

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        Nice dubs
        The idea you know anything is retarded though. Modern science has only existed for a couple of decades. You have to be the most arrogant moron to assume we have settled anything.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All of math is a priori knowledge.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty much.
            It's why retard scientists in retard labs at retard HQ keep thinking we live in a simulation. Because we can't see anything smaller than photons(shocker). Doesn't mean that there isn't anything there boys. We are just thought blocked by biology and time space. Too stupid and under developed to dig that deep.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1. Free will exists.
        yes but most people are retarded and don't understand
        >2. Cartesian dualism is real.
        i don't agree. consciousness to some degree creates your physical reality.
        >3. Nihilism is the only ethical stance.
        contradictory. "ethics" mean nothing in the nihilistic point of view, so how can it be the most ethical?
        >4. Math and science are objective truth.
        math, yes to an extent.
        science? not even close.
        >5. Any paradox can be resolved by either explaining it or recognizing it is nonsensical.
        a paradox can be resolved by it not being a paradox, or by admitting that it's a paradox.

        how is it ignorant to know what you don't know, or to know that there are things that you don't know?
        and, compared to the infinite amount of information out there, you will always know nothing in comparison because any amount of knowledge, divided by an infinity amount of knowledge, will always be zero.

        the real problem is when people don't know what they don't know, but think they know everything.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You made a system to mock all filosophy which is pretty good because filosophy is shit and trash
    But science is prettty trash too try s/science/craft and linguistics/

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3. Nihilism is the only ethical stance.
    Morality cannot exist without God. https://youtu.be/55P-s6OwtaQ

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      God is a fagget

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Bad thing happen
        If you mean that people dont deserve what they get you at the same time mean that:
        "The life choices of said individual should not logically result to the outcome."
        Plus, you cannot say something is good or bad without claiming there is good and bad. The only way there is truly good and bad is that there is a God.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Supercondensed copium. Some people actually have morals. If god was proven fake would you start raping babies that day just because you don't expect a punishment?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The only way that objective morality exists is if God exists. If objective morality does not exist, then it is subjective. Subjective is not objective, making anything justifiable, and even if it was not justifiable, still there would be nothing objectively wrong with doing so. And to answer the question, no, I would not start rapin babies because within each persons heart the moral code has been written by God already. I feel obligated to follow it. Atheists CAN NOT be moral.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What? Morality might be subjective but everyone tends to share the same morals due to our very similar if not equal fundamental human nature. Obviously not everything can be the way that you want but through society and ethics we can build a system where everyone can agree on a very wide array of things and get something out of it. For example, we probably shouldn't murder other people because of many reasons like it makes us feel awful when we see it or are aware of it, it shows distrust and damages our prosperity which causes tensions which in turn increase the risk of everything going to shit which in turn is bad for ourselves. It would damage society which makes everyone's and perhaps even more importantly YOUR life better. And because morals are subjective there's no way to tell WHO'S moral and who isn't. Society might be morally good for humans but what about animals? etc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if god real why suffering
        >why don't I just feel good all the time
        >what is the meaning in life that I've made no effort to find myself
        checkmate theists

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        I too FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE.
        Nothing matters.
        Wholesome 100.

        Based

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God exists but is not a person and does not provide morality.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ethics are distinct from morality
      nihilism is the only ethical stance, op is right
      the answer is Christian nihilism

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nihilism is the only ethical stance

    I haven't read enough philosophy to be confident in my understanding of nihilism, but I'll shoot my shot. How is nihilism the only ethical stance? It seems entirely objective rather than based on or applicable to any kind of ethic.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nihilism (from Latin nihil 'nothing') is a philosophy, or family of views within philosophy, that rejects generally accepted or fundamental aspects of human existence,[1][2] such as objective truth, knowledge, morality, values or meaning.
    >4. Math and science are objective truth.
    Okey.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. true
    2. probably false
    3. false
    4. true
    5. probably false

    It'll give you a C- which should be a D, but the admin wants us to pass more students like you bc you're clogging up the system

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      neuropsychology does not believe in free will. a philosophers take is irrelevant as they cannot measure anything to decide whether the body acts before our conscious. you failed the test

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        neuroscience studies and acknowledges free will. belief has nothing to do with it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          ok anon can you point at the free will on this image

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that's just a picture of some lines. the fact that you can interpret it as something else should answer your question.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it's a le graph proving me right with le science

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                based. now post a le chart of combustion engine mechanics and how that chart proves that highway traffic does not exist.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    I too FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE.
    Nothing matters.
    Wholesome 100.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unironically reddit tier

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually the opposite of reddit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. I should have pointed that out first aswell. The more Rick & morty it is, the more reddit it is, unironically.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Show me one redditor who supports dualism.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Show me one redditor who supports dualism.
        (YOU).

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Math and science are objective truth.
    Math maybe, but the only field of science that can be seen as objective is physics.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What about chemistry?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thats a good question. I don't think so because unlike physics it can't be 100% accurate.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    >equates mathematics, a specific field, with "science," whatever that means
    >"nihilism" as an "ethical stance"
    >suggests explaining paradoxes when true paradoxes are inherently inexplicable

    Thanks o wise Anonimus the Robot, I'll be sure to bring this to MIT next month.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Free will exists
    Nope. All formative experiences and brain chemistry
    We're all robots anon, just here we're robots who are aware of our programming

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually we are more like baseball players. Life is just a baseball game with less rules. Free will is in the score.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >me, a human
      >i'm very hungry
      >my body is telling me to eat
      >there's a crisp apple right next to me
      >my body keeps making me look at that apple
      >c'mon, eat it
      >tell my body to fuck off
      >stop feeling hungry

      >my dog, a dog
      >gets hungry
      >starts throwing a temper tantrum
      >knocks over bag of food
      >starts eating

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because you have a genetic predisposition to discipline and were raised in an environment where that was encouraged
        Meanwhile
        >be melanin enriched
        >see young White girl
        >ooga booga rapin time

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the genetic predisposition is to be impulsive and eat right away. that's why we reward and celebrate discipline, among other reasons. if your assumption is that knowledge and intent are required for the exercise of free will, you are correct.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No such thing as free will sorry anon

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Philosophy is overthinking homosexual pseudoscience bullshit and is popular with trannies, have a nice day all of you in this thread are a bunch of homosexuals.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      philistine trash, no one cares what you think

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    math and science are our human understandings of the universe based on fundamentally flawed axioms and models. Our mathematicians and scientists spend hundreds of years going over their data trying to make some sense of the universe where there never will be one perceivable or knowable to us. All your math and science has brought you no closer to God or the universe.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God is real
    Have fun being a nihilist but you're wrong
    Also math proves that math is unprovable

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How can free will exist when all events are causally determined?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because your volition (cause) can have an effect on those events.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nihilism is the only ethical stance.
    this is only true if free will doesn't exist

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